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Touge Fastest Legend Hello everybody, this is "fresh" assistant, Irene. Today is...why you start laughing? Today... You are so cute. Thank you so much. I try keep myself fresh. Let me start this again, Mr.Tsuchiya, there is one question from our reader today. Yes. This E-mail is from Mr.Hisanori Saegusa, says "I always enjoy Hot-Version. Maybe I should have asked earlier, what is the charm of FR?" What broad question. Want's to know ? Yes I do, even I do not understand that well. You have no idea about FF. No, not at all. I will learn that. Now she's studying. He drives little harder than usual. Irene, are you OK ? Wow, Nooooo This is FR. Great ! Wow, it's turning, turning. No, no, no, Hey, hey, hey, Damn, that's far more dangerous. How did you find this fun ? Feelings pushing from behind strongly. Oh ! Ooh ! She has got it. Yes obvious. It was so impressive turning tight and quick. She has got so essential...
Have I ? Mr.Tsuchiya will give you a lesson about FR a lot, even WITHOUT car. Really, that is amazing, isn't it ? Well, well, well, I know what you want to say. Feeling about pushed from behind, booom ! Damn, I see. I understand FR cars are so good, but they are usually expensive. To reduce your expense, today we introduce reasonable FR. That's nice idea. This is one of a good example. MAME 86, they say you're good example. For a reasonable FR ? NO, cheap FR. Example of a cheap FR ? Can we say this is reasonable one ? Oh, it is. It cost just 250 thousand yen when I bought. Wow ! To be honest you can't buy this at such price. Well, was 250 thousand, and put 3.5 million for tuning. You did that... Test older model FRs recently become reasonable in price. Touge Fastest Legend Latest FR vs. Reasonable priced FR <Representative of latest FR> FR global standard, BMW. M235i is one of a latest FR coupe with straight 6 twin turbo engine which shakes sport drivers heart manual transmission installed with it. Great reputation of BMW comes from keep producing this kind of sport cars throughout generations
apart from some other makers who instantly quit by its sales. Let me describe, There is a switch to change vehicle mode such as eco mode, comfort, sport and sport plus. For instance, sport plus fully disconnect DSC. I like to start with comfort mode, it’s not useless to test eco mode here. BMW is so good at making this kind of car, you can see that from M series. Wow, good speed. Very good engine, it is. He chose soft damper, and comfort mode means full stability control. It doesn't force to take over control if you skid, but it naturally and gently over ride control. Despite its fast roll speed, cornering itself is smooth. Elegant suspension, with quality. Elegant touch it has. Absolutely no problem on the gap. Now on, I'll try Sport Plus, DSC all off. It makes the car feel light. Suspension goes stiff. How does he tell us about a positioning of this car between ordinary BMW and M series ?
Well, it grabs brake, electronic device interferes. Electronic control, which holds rear inside wheel to prevent wheel spin instead of installing mechanical LSD, makes driver feel reducing power at traction. Well, it does interfere. Time is 28.212sec. It is slower than VW Golf GTI. Suspension itself is well developed. It is so smooth and graceful. I guess it can be very good tuning-base. It is still comfort at the gap even sport plus mode. Now Orido's impression time. Electronic device cannot be disconnected completely as I thought. Even it's still working, steering.... no, throttle response becomes a lot better than comfort mode. This is absolutely safety car. On the edge of the limit front gently start sliding slightly, suspension has pretty wide capability. You can drive with safe feeling all the time. How about NOB Taniguchi's impression ?
It has good power. Wow,wow, it was ABS. It forced to be under steer here. At exit, differential gear needs to be locked. You can see the indicator blinking in meter panel that shows electronic device interference. What that means is, Gun-sai is such dangerous course indeed. That's it. Only such tough course is capable of hard test. <Budget 1 million yen> <An example of reasonable FR> Reasonable FR Let us start with Roadster plenty in second hand market. This one is "NB" Mr.Nirei director of this VIDEO just has bought recently. Because of 16 year old, 94,000km ODO paint is peeled everywhere. Look peeled everywhere. Engine is kept normal, in fact, left normal. Nirei has brought this to Tech-Art where recently put their interest on Roadster for further tuning. He's proud of special made road wheel. Including initial car cost and basic tuning fee, it doesn't reach the budget limit by 1 million yen. Hum, 94,000km. Let's see how this Roadster runs. It's first time for while to drive non-power steering, it is just like driving NSX type R.
Well anyway, it's fun. Nirei searched Roadster without power steering, power window and soft top with his purpose. It's very high full throttle rate. He keeps absolutely flat out towards hairpin. Its section time exceeds BMW M323i. It does give me feel as if I were at maximum attack. This is car should be. That’s good. Feel good. Look this, it doesn't have any steering center at all! But do not worry, this is cheap second hand car. It's jumping around at the gap. Maybe you say it's so slow if you compare high power cars. But a man who drives this really loves its high flat out rate. Wooooow, Orido does give flat out. That's just good, isn't it ? Maybe this strong grip contact feel comes from lightweight body. And I don't feel any of negatives of aged body or open top body. Roadster is good, always. How about you, NOB ? His eye ! Laughing! What a fun! I don't know why !
It is like you choose hard way where you are not asked to do so. Hard job, it is. Isn't it driving AE86 ? What I remember about Roadster is, well more elegant. Reasonable FR, 2nd car is S2000 early model. S2000, a car longing for has become 1,000,000yen in price. So Manabu, one of Hot-Version staff jumped to is 134,000km S2000. F20C, masterpiece of production engine, is still capable of 9000rpm after 134,000km ? Of course interior gives luxury atmosphere much stronger than Roadster. Vehicle cost 800,000yen, though 200,000yen was spent on basic maintenance as Gun-sai test preparation. How about this ? It does run good, VTEC. Well, brake pedal seems like, pressing a sponge. I remember it wasn't when it was new. I tell you, owner should put his budget to brakes. Honda, known as the best engine constructor, it still runs so crisp even spent 130,000km of life.
This is great car indeed. Surprisingly it marks 26.9sec. What a fast car ! I knew this was so good car when it was new. Having time with this second hand S2000, now I assume Honda made such a great car. Roll stroke tells this car actually rolls more than BMW. But the ride, I mean comfort, maybe because of loose damper is not inferior to BMW. Especially gap absorbing. Orido does make the engine run. It doesn't tell it has run 130,000km at all. Normal suspension is maybe little too soft here. Maybe dumper becomes soft. I like to renew suspension, if you buy second hand S2000, it needs to replace suspension. Anyway, it's fun ! Engine and transmission are no problem at all. Bottom priced S2000 is still enjoyable. How NOB drives this ? 9000 rpm. Oh, it turns nose well. Because of 16inch, tire moves around. (Low rigidity)
It is definitely high potential, so it encourages me to brush up this. Reasonable FR, 3rd one is Mazda RX-8. LEG Sport recently sold this car to a customer 1,000,000 yen. LEG says that RX-8 is one of the most reasonable cars on second hand market. RX-8 debut in 2003, it's quite newer than S2000 or Roadster but there are so many reasonable ones less than 500,000 yen. One of a good way to enjoy this kind secondhand car is to purchase such car maintained by special shop throughout the life, just like this RX-8. Previous owner had given engine overhaul at 100,000km ODO. I guess it is lucky to new owner. It was 800,000 yen with height adjustable suspension and exhaust. And I add LSD, it becomes 1,000,000 yen. Next car is RX-8. RX-8 from LEG Sport. Testing Mazda cars, I would like to compare with Fujita Engineering cars. With considering that, I'll check this.
Eight doesn't have plenty of power, but it's driver friendly. It has good kinetic performance, so it's fun. It's in condition. OK, let me taste this. "Crack!", I hate this sound. I really hate this. <The noise is caused by lose of fastening torque on front transverse member attachment bolt. Extra lord on long mileage vehicle may leads such trouble.> Despite annoyed by the noise, it marks better section time than LEG's demonstration car. Vehicle behavior is good and stable. Just I don't like to hear the noise. Hardened suspension absorbs the gap reasonably. I really like this Eight set up by LEG. In rear, its road contact feel, and so as front, I can easily catch up them. Orido was fell in love with LEG demonstration car at Okayama Int'l circuit. Wo...ABS scares me little. Unexpectedly it has better feeling than demonstration car. Is that because LEG's sophistication or basic potential of RX-8 ? I like it. Smooth and gentle. NOB starts flying now. It has contact grip.
Cornering seems light and smooth. This is significant point of new generation FR car. Basically, it has strong grip, but at turning brake period rear grip is reduced, so I tend not to turn steering in fact. If you drive keep rear has stable road contact, it might be so fast. 3 of reasonable second hand FR are not broken at Gun-sai test, even they show great performance today.
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