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Netflix! Netflix! Netflix has a great intro sound. Right, it's great. It's the best. It makes you excited. [Today's behind-the-scenes talkroom] [(Somewhere in Seoul)] [Mysterious people in masks] Isn't it better if I go here? With the actor in the middle. Don't do your directing here! Why? Do you want some? Oh, you can't eat. Are you making fun of us? Made by the designer of "The King of Mask Singer." How do they sing with these on? Right? I think that's amazing. - Joong-ki) What's the one I wore? - Hee-won) That's this. - Joong-ki) That's Cha-young's? - Hee-won) Yup. Yeah, "The Smiling Girl." Wow, but Cha-young's face is a third of the screenwriter's. [VINCENZO] [The behind-the-scenes talk starts now!] Hello. I'm Park Jae-bom, the screenwriter of Vincenzo. I'm Kim Hee-won, the producer of Vincenzo. I'm Song Joong-ki, playing the role of Vincenzo Cassano. [Q. Why did you wear the masks?] I'd like to be guaranteed anonymity... I can be more frank that way, so please excuse me. So cool! I haven't seen this in a while. You edited it (for the talk)? - Joong-ki) Can you see? - Hee-won) Yeah, I can. I can see well! Are you playing this on Netflix? [Q. Character development]
I got the idea from "Pig Sty Alley" in the movie called "Kung Fu Hustle." They hide their abilities and their real skills come out after each of them has an awakening. In our drama, each individual represents a citizen. Every citizen has great power and they became the Geumga people to symbolize that. The characters depend on how I'm feeling that day. [Huh?] If I meet the laundry guy on my way out, that creates the laundry guy character and if I hadn't gone there that day, that character wouldn't have been made. [In awe +1] [Q. Casting behind the scenes] I'm also curious about this. Who the viewers want to see and who the staff want to work with, there are these two standards. For me, what the actor is like in their natural state plays a big part. Their specialties, way of talking, and vibes I get. In that regard, Song Joong-ki is the most convenient. He's handsome. And that handsomeness... [Bribe] [Withdrawn] Oh, you can't eat. He can't eat anything. People think I was the first to get casted. [That's a no-no] I wasn't. Someone else was casted first, right? Yup. It was Lim Chul-soo and Yang Kyung-won. I had my eyes on them in my mind.
I found the two actors very impressive in "Crash Landing on You." Very hopeful. What? They were the first people that came to mind. I didn't have to think twice about them, since they're so good at their job. [Q. Behind the scenes of Song Joong-ki's casting] I was just chilling at the time. - Joong-ki) Right? - Hee-won) He seemed to have a lot of time. There was no room for doubt. As long as he was willing to do it. We gave him the script and while we were waiting his response, there's this place called *** Grilled Clams on the Masian Beach. Me and the two assistant screenwriters were drinking there going like, "I hope Song Joong-ki accepts the role." So the "pop, pop" sound when we called - Hee-won) were the clams opening up? - Jae-beom) Yeah. There was cheese on top of the lobster but it hardened because of the call. I couldn't eat it because it hardened into rubber. Oh, really? Let's go to that place soon. That sounds good! Mhm, great! Doing this show with them is such an honor that it makes me think "What would I have done if I hadn't received a script like this?" When my manager told me that Park Jae-beom was giving me the script, my honest reaction was, "Huh?" Because I associated screenwriter Park Jae-beom
mostly with comedy so my honest first reaction was "Huh? Why is he giving me a comedy?" But when I read the first 3-4 lines about the purpose of the program, I got the impression that this wasn't just a comedy. [Jang Han-seo X Vincenzo] Ah, this is a good one. Why did you include an ice hockey scene? I received the information that both actors were good at skating, so I had to. Dong-yeon skates like a total pro. He filmed a drama about ice hockey. If they'd been bad at skating, we couldn't have used this scene. [Q. Behind the scenes of casting Kwak Dong-yeon] I really wanted him. He was hard to win over. [Age: ('97) Younger than expected] [Hard to win over] He's very young. - Joong-ki) Yup. - Hee-won) He's a very young person. He guest-starred in "It's Okay to Not Be Okay." I had a feeling when I saw him. From the front side, Kwak Dong-yeon, if you cover his mouth and just look at his eyes, they look similar to Al Pacino's eyes in "The Godfather 1." Ooh! So I really liked those eyes. [Q. Song Joong-ki's pick: Who had the best chemistry with you?] It has to be Jeon Yeo-been. I think I was with her most of the time.
And also the Jipuragi members. With Joo-sung (Yoon Byung-hee) there's a reason we have good chemistry. He has a reaction to everything you do and he creates something more. Didn't I have a runny nose then? We got rid of it with CGI. Right? [Q. A middle-aged female villain] Personally, it was really thrilling to work with Kim Yeo-jin. I discussed this part a lot with the director. There was one rule. "Don't take that approach of making the extraverted female villain that's always been around." I wanted an aunt-like character that's by your side. And of them, Kim Yeo-jin was the best. She's very good at transformations, whether that be with acting or aura. She has a lot of dancing scenes and her hands are very beautiful. She has a girlish side to her. I really liked the contrast stemming from those parts. I tend to like when ugly things come out of external beauty. [Q. Inzaghi, the character that went viral] Do you know which character gained the most popularity? [Raises hand] Oh, I know! - Joong-ki) You don't need to raise your hand. - Hee-won) This. [It's me] Right, Inzaghi. Huh?! - Joong-ki) Really?! - Jae-beom) Oh, Inzaghi?
- Jae-bom) It's Inzaghi? - Editor) Yup. Really? That's disappointing. Inzaghi? The greatest of the birds. The symbol of peace. I chose a symbol that contrasted most with Vincenzo. Someone asked if it flew over from Italy. No. That was just what I included. [Pretending to be Inzaghi] In the 1st episode, in Italy... Flap, thump, flutter [Q. Why is Inzaghi a pigeon?] There's one that lives outside my studio on the outdoor AC unit. It coos all night. His name is Unit. For outdoor AC unit. Unit...! Unit... I actually call it that. If you go through that for 6 months, you don't get angry, he feels like family. This... I thought it'd be nice to have a friend like that when you go to an unfamiliar room. And it's the symbol of peace but they bicker with each other and ultimately, peace itself also sides with Vincenzo. That's the writer's little metaphor no one knows about. I'm also grateful for the director because originally, there weren't that many pigeons in the Inzaghi scene. It was supposed to bring 3. And Unit back at my studio also has a friend with him. And the director made the scene more abundant. There were 180 of them. But the disappointing part was that Inzaghi flies away after saving Vincenzo.
He looks at Vincenzo while flying far away. But I actually wanted the bird to fly backwards while looking at him. - Joong-ki) Right. - Jae-beom) Yeah, backwards. - Jae-beom) Back flying. - Hee-won) I wanted it to fly backwards. Isn't that nice? - Hee-won) I was thinking of trying that. - Joong-ki) While going backwards... he makes eye contact with Vincenzo while going backwards. But when I tried it, it was pretty horrifying. [In charge of the VFX] Baek Kyung-soo! Oh! Baek Kyung-soo. The reason he called him at the container box... Do you understand, Baek Kyung-soo? This is the VFX chief. Do you understand, Baek Kyung-soo? I was thinking of making this the epilogue. He reminisces, and he's alone. [Inzaghi never existed] There's no bird. I was thinking about doing this. That's scary! A horror movie. [Q. Comedy] It's the song "Adrenaline." Yup. I really liked the traditional Korean music version. It was a lot of fun. This even had singing. Like traditional song. We took it out after much thinking. Let's go, "Space Sweepers"! This... People thought the "Let's go, Space Sweepers" line was an ad lib. Our screenwriter wrote it. I wrote it to show support for "Space Sweepers." [Q. What's Vincenzo-style comedy?] I personally think our drama is a sad story.
If you were to express this sad story like Stephen Chow's "Shaolin Soccer," I think that's the best high-end genre. The screenwriter and director made that happen and I think that's the real charm. It's actually black comedy. You can think of it as a capsule. The purpose of capsules is to put powdered medicine in the capsule because the medicine itself is too bitter to eat. It's like that. The subject matter or what we want to say are scathing and straightforward, so you can think of comedy as the capsule surrounding all that. Can... [Q. Ad libs] you call me brother just once? I think Seok-do had the most ad libs. Your favorite one was "You cruel bastard" You cruel bastard. He liked this the most. - Joong-ki) Oh really? - Jae-beom) After I saw that, I was able to get a better sense of the actor's character. A lot of actors ruin the script when they do ad libs, but Young-woong never does that. He makes the story a lot more fun without messing it up. I remember. At the time, I ad-libbed and stuck out my finger as a way of saying "Promise!" It must have irritated him. He said, "You cruel bastard."
Chul-soo has a lot of gesture ad-libs. Chul-soo. He's kind of like Chaplin. Yeah. - Jae-beom) He has that Chaplin vibe. - Hee-won) Yeah, he does have that vibe. An actor I'm close to asked about Lim Chul-soo and was like "I've also been acting for a long time, but his chemistry is something else." "What is he?" Jae-myung also said that. If you look at Chul-soo, he has very sad eyes. His eyes are so pretty. It looks like he might cry, and that's a big merit when you're doing comedy. Oh, I see. [Q. The funniest scene?] The funniest one is this. I couldn't act because I laughed so much. I'll do anything. Joo-sung... When he was going home and bumped his knee... It was really... It was so funny that whenever we saw Joo-sung after that Jeon Yeo-been and I couldn't shoot because we were laughing. There's a scene where Gi-seok reveals his identity. - Joong-ki) While walking down the hallway? - Hee-won) Yeah, with his coat fluttering. The way he walked was just so funny. That was so funny! Is it a dotted quarter note rhythm or what? It's just weird. Click clack. He kind of walks to the semachi rhythm.
That was the funniest part of this drama for me. That and when Seok-do almost died in the cold storage. Oh, right. Stop saying you're cold! Stop, stop, stop! - Joong-ki) That was funny. - Hee-won) That was real funny. Those two were the funniest scenes in this drama. Yes, yes I love you! [Q. The story of how the K-proposal was born] [♪ Congratulations ♪] Writing the lyrics took longer than the lines. [♪ Your wedding ♪] [♪ Love ♪] - Hee-won) Oh, right. - Joong-ki) I love these lyrics. [♪ Forever ♪] Those lyrics took like... [♪ Don't fight ♪] Like 26 hours? I need to register copyright for this. Have you not done that yet? [Korea Music Copyright Association] Go register quickly. And I need to write verse 2. [Confused] Verse 2. Verse 2 as well? The Jogye Order gave me a lot of help. First, I'm so grateful for the Jogye Order so I want to make this sound fun. [Flap flap] I need to make things rhyme. Could you demonstrate? Just once! No, no, no! Don't! ♪ Don't fight! ♪ ♪ Congratulations forever! ♪ Kind of like this This drained me. Doing this drained me a lot. - Joong-ki) It drained you? - Jae-beom) It drained me a lot. [Fidgeting] One scene I really wanted to shoot well [Choke] Wait. [Gulp gulp] You okay? - Hee-won) Can this even be on camera? - Jae-beom) Sorry for the indecent behavior..
[Q. Behind the scenes of the romance] Jeon Yeo-been was everything in this scene. The film and lighting directors did it all. [Agreed, Watches quietly] What I felt during the rehearsal with Yeo-been was that this scene would go beyond the script. Oh yeah. You didn't think it would go this far, right? The script wasn't as much as that. That much? - Jae-beom) Hey! - Hee-won) Hey! I'm going to hug you for just 10 seconds. Let's call it a test to see if I have feelings for you. [#A test to make your heart flutter] The females kind of lead the romance in Vincenzo. That felt really new and nice. Romance is a hard thing for a middle-aged man. My dating spirit it's basically a fossil now. Don't you love your wife? [Firm] - Jae-beom) Yes, I love her lots. - Joong-ki) Do you love her? Let's do a video message for her. "I love her lots" haha. Honey. "Honey...!" I don't appear on the media a lot, but honey I'm here speaking to thee. Oh, thee? What's thee? [Love you!] When I write (the script) and look at it the next day, it kills me. "Rotate and kiss," rotate what? Rotate what...! [This right here] I think it's a sub-genre where all the actors' emotions and the director's
thoughtful concerns and ideas came together really well. [Q. The debate over romance] Can you feel it now? Since people see this as a noir drama or hard-boiled fiction, they think, "Romance?" "They should hurry up and get revenge, kill them all, and end this." But as we mentioned earlier, this is a black comedy and it follows the person's every emotion so I thought that romance in any way was necessary and the director helped greatly with that. Oh, you can't drink water. One of the scenes I wanted to do a good job shooting was the scene where Cha-young asks Vincenzo if he's going to leave. I think that romance is that feeling of wanting this person to be by your side. For me, it was a very natural sentiment because two lonely people met. It felt unnatural, rather, to rule out romance. And we are the ones who must direct it in a beautiful way so that the audience can enjoy it. Well, right...! You have to go. After all, you have your own life! From my perspective, there are lines Vincenzo says after Cha-young put
the bereaved in the morgue. Keep your heart cold. Revenge will go more smoothly that way. "Revenge goes more smoothly the colder you are." "You have to be more coolheaded." These lines... were exhilarating for me. I also empathize with Vincenzo about everything except his face. I think he did a great job expressing the emotions of affection and loneliness. [Q. The birth of Song Joong-ki-style action] The style of action. It's not about how cool the fighting looks. It's to show what kind of character he is so (I thought) about what kind of action scene would fit the Mafia context. The martial arts director came up with a lot of different designs and styles. "A large-scale action scene would go best here." "Focusing on the actor's emotions would go well here." "I want an action scene with a lot of hitting." Our action actors worked really hard. If it weren't for martial arts director Huh Myung-haeng and the action actors, Vincenzo couldn't have been finished. [#Shoot-out action] The concept of using a gun may be simple. Guns create suspense - Jae-bom) but when you use it... - Hee-won) It ends quickly. Yeah, it's a volatile setup that ends in a flash. The director controlled that volatility in a variety of ways
that are connected to emotions so I think that's what created even stronger action scenes. I'm really grateful for that. And the staff, they're the best. They're genuine toward the actors. To confess, when I was thinking of the last scene, I wanted more of a photoshoot than a video. I wanted the world to feel like it was on pause and she made all that happen, which was great. [I did great...] [Q. Evil is punished by evil] - Hee-won) Oh my! - Joong-ki) Ho-chul. - Hee-won) He worked so hard... - Joong-ki) He worked really hard. He did amazing. - Hee-won) He did great. - Jae-beom) He poured in everything... It was great! #The Geumga Plaza family Ye-hwa. They look amazing. Ah, Seol-jin! - Jae-beom) They all have a great fit - Hee-won) Right? - Joong-ki) Duk-moon looks like a Hong Kong... - Hee-won) A Hong Kong actor! [Kim Hyung-mook / Lim Chul-soo / Yoon Byung-hee] Duk-moon's fit is just... Yeah. [Jung Ji-yoon] They all have great frames. Look at Hang-na. Mhm. And Young-woong, who looks the best in a suit. Kyung-won, Young-woong. Young-woong's like the person at a luxury department store. Controlling evil with evil is evidently my subject matter. Hong Yu-chan says this. I want someone to bring down these evil bastards, whether it's legal or not. But that's not possible in real life.
I projected myself onto these emotions the most so I really empathized with it. Me arguing that there needs to be a radical something. It takes a devil to drive out another devil. I did think that the director was very mad at this world. He must've talked about this because he was so fed up with the world. If you don't agree with this, you can't direct the show. If you delve deep into this, it's easy to fall into nihilism but there are traces of his effort to see hope here and there so it's a paradoxical drama that makes you support the evildoer. From the producer's perspective, it was also a very difficult drama to make. It was really difficult. [Q. Five-star endings] I thought Song Joong-ki would look cooler than DiCaprio. [Modest] He would look much cooler if he did this. I love DiCaprio ♥ Joon-woo might've been cold after filming this that day, [So cold...] but for Cha-young and me, our jaws hurt [Chew chew] From chewing gum. From chewing so much gum. Enjoy it as much as you want. [My jaw hurts...] Both the director and I really like movies like "Carrie," so we were like, "Let's use this no matter what!" We made it finally come true. It might feel a little repulsive.
- Joong-ki) It was an adventurous attempt. - Jae-beom) Yup, it was adventurous but the screen itself looked so beautiful, so that was great. [#The uprising of fury] I feel like I've seen this before. That's the scene I really wanted to include. A civil uprising... In a way, that's not a symbol or a metaphor, it's a blunt message. They've been enlightened and have started to protect themselves. [#Goodbye Joon-woo] We had a lot of options for how Joon-woo would die. There were ones even crueler than that. Could you tell us? Oh, no. To put it into words... - Jae-beom) It's creepy. - Hee-won) Nasty. (The raven) wasn't CGI, right? - Hee-won) It wasn't. - Joong-ki) It wasn't CGI. It's a trained raven. Yeah, it was a smart raven. Unlike Inzaghi, it's a bird that acts. Inzaghi's good at acting! Inzaghi's also good. Inzaghi was good. Inzaghi isn't a thinking actor. Right! That raven's a thinking actor-bird. [Q. The best scenes] Wow, this is really hard. I mentioned this a lot in my interviews. The best scene is the one where Choi Myung-hee dances in episode 4. It's the best sequence for me. Since you talked about that one a lot, tell us one more. I have two.
The vincerò at the end of episode 4. Vincenzo's face, the exploding factories. It just felt refreshing. It was really refreshing for Park Jae-beom as a human so I really like that scene. The line where Vincenzo says "Vincerò." [I will win] Vincerò. My favorite scene is where he goes visit CEO Jang. I've never said this before. And talks about his nickname. Do you know what my nickname is in the Mafia world? Gatto sazio. Cat. - Joong-ki) Satiated cat? - Jae-beom) Yeah, satiated cat. The translation is satiated cat. A satiated cat... [If you're curious about the "satiated cat," check it out on Netflix] The stage directions then were "Vincenzo's most devilish self, which has never been seen," and this scene followed the directions perfectly. The actor himself did a shockingly great job so it was really thrilling at the time. I really can't choose. But there is something I can choose. The closing credits at the end. I've always wanted to make something like that. It's something you do out of affection. By the end of the drama, things are so hectic and if I want to look back on Vincenzo, I can watch that. When I miss the people I worked with
and I miss the actors, writers, and staff, watching that solves that problem. I've always wanted to include the phrase "The End" at the end of a drama. I was so disappointed. Why? "The End" really made it feel like the end. [The End] I wanted this feeling, like it was all really over. [Last question] [The moment the Vincenzo team became a real family?] Listening to you made me think of a scene. The stage directions were a rough montage. It was all ad-libbed, without a single line. We were told, "Do everything you want" and the camera was just on. It made me think, "Wow, we're really on the same wavelength." There were probably a lot of genuine laughs included in that scene. You wouldn't even get that by talking about stocks. Stocks? Even if you talk about cryptocurrency... They just talked about everyday things and they were like a family. [Really "The End" for us, too] Thank you! - Joong-ki) Thank you! - Hee-won) Thank you!
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