Day 2: The Shocking Truth About What Causes Cancer (and which are hiding in your home)

Day 2: The Shocking Truth About What Causes Cancer (and which are hiding in your home)


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[Music] welcome to day two of the conquering cancer summit i'm really excited you're joining us today this is a very special day of the summit where we get to explore the deeper underlying causes of cancer many of which are completely avoidable or can be drastically mitigated in our lives and we get a dive into the deeper essence of what cancer actually is what causes all forms of cancer and even get into how to stop feeding
cancer in our bodies so it stops growing i'm your host nathan crane and i'm honored you're joining us for this summit if you miss day one i highly encourage you to go back and watch it it will give you a deeper insight into the war that's going on between opposing medical fields and i also lay a framework for why we are in need of more integrative cancer care and a coming together of all fields of medicine from natural and holistic to modern and conventional to create the best results for preventing
and reversing cancer once and for all today you'll get to hear from two-time cancer conqueror dr desanier who shares her integrative journey with healing cancer you'll get to hear from dr rashid bhutar about the number one core cause of cancer and how to stop feeding it you'll hear from brian vasely about the hidden toxins in your home and skin care and how to stop soaking your body in toxic cancer-causing chemicals and you'll get to hear from renowned holistic medical doctor thomas lode not only about what the most
simplest definition of cancer is but he begins to touch upon why it's important to understand the anatomy of the human body our deeper instinctual needs for specific food types why he doesn't recommend the carnivore diet what he thinks about keto and a lot more while day two does touch slightly on some of the dietary recommendations he has his patients follow when healing cancer day five is all about the anti-cancer diet from world-renowned healing experts so make sure to watch day five to go deeper
into specific diet and nutritional recommendations for cancer but before we get started please make sure to click the share button on this page share this on all your social media sites and get engaged in the conversation below this video we want to hear what your insights have been so far what you're inspired by and what new information you're looking forward to you can share this and comment below so together we can make a positive impact in the lives of friends family and people around the world who need
this life-saving information so without further ado i'm excited to welcome you to day number two of the conquering cancer summit let's begin dr thomas lode has been practicing medicine for over 34 years now for the first 10 years of his medical career he worked as an internist urgent care physician and intensivist in icu and ccu departments of various hospitals in new york in 2002 he established one of the first integrative oncology centers and in 2005
founded an oasis of healing in arizona which is still active today i interviewed the current medical director there in arizona dr nathan goodyear as part of this series we talked about really the the most important aspects of the cancer healing diet that they're implementing there you should go listen to that interview right after this one and their website is an uh dr lode has been licensed as a medical doctor in the state of new york
since 1987 and is a homeopathic medical doctor in the state of arizona since 2002. dr lode is a founding member of the international organization of integrative cancer physicians and an active allied member of the american society of clinical oncology since 2012 he founded and served as the chief integrative oncology consultant for several cancer centers in bangkok and phuket thailand malaysia india vietnam and dubai and is currently the founding member and ceo of oasis international in phuket
thailand which is actually where he is joining us from a day ahead of us in the morning and we're a day behind when i'm recording this in the evening so i'm glad our timing worked out dr lodi thank you so much for joining us you're welcome you're welcome it's glad to be back yeah it's been uh it's been a few years since we've connected a few years yeah i think originally i mean because i moved to thailand in 2012 so i don't remember when you were doing the filming for the original
was it before 2012 it was a couple years after that um but we were doing some conferences there in san diego that you were speaking at some online summits magazines all kinds of things that uh um you were a part of just because your work is so instrumental in you know integrative care for helping people with cancer so yeah i'm super happy excited to be connecting with you again okay me too so let's dive in um the most simple but profound question i
think i can start with is what actually is cancer yeah and that's really a perfect question it's a great question it's and uh and i think once people understand what it is some of the mystery of course goes away and and and we have to understand that a lot of fear you know it's just based on ignorance you know we don't have so knowledge brings the knowledge shines the light on things and you understand it
cancer is actually a very simple natural uh homeostatic which means uh uh in biology homeostasis is the um processes and qualities of an organism to maintain its functional integrity in no matter what happens you know like you get pushed you have a biomechanical homeostasis your leg goes out to hold you up so you don't fall okay you're eating too many
cheeseburgers and uh pizzas and your arteries are getting clogged up but your your body knows you need to keep the flow of blood to your heart and your brain so how do you maintain flow with clogged up arteries you increase the pressure so you go to the doctor either hi you have high blood pressure he said no no no no the problem is the pizzas and the and the kebabs and the things like that if i stop that yeah i won't yeah so anyway so the but the and the same thing with diabetes and cancer and all that so we're going to talk about right you go i
just want to mention that you go to the doctor and they say you got high blood pressure we need to give you some medication to lower your blood pressure and what you're saying is no that's not that's not what you're trying to do not trying to lower the blood pressure you're trying to get rid of the things that are causing your blood pressure to be so high exactly because what what we're what we're identifying here what we're focusing on this is very important is we need to eliminate the myth of disease okay there's no such thing as an entity called a disease that gets into you like you have diabetes where is it you know is it in
my elbow is it over here you know how did i catch it is it an it it's not an it so in other words what i'm saying is that the body is always and it's designed and not just our body the dog's bodies cats bodies elephants bodies uh trees they're designed to um maintain functional integrity regardless of what happens it's called adaptation it's called homeostasis so if i'm eating all this stuff right and my arteries are clogged up
and i need to keep the blood flow my body will naturally increase the blood pressure to keep me alive right now that's not a long-term solution but it's the only thing that could be done at that time right so if i go to a doctor and i take drugs and those drugs actually dilate my arteries artificially so that my pressure goes down what's happening now i'm now i'm not getting the blood flow to where my body intended it to go so my brain's not getting it so i have a low level hypoxia or low oxygen i have a low oxygen level in my heart
all over and what we know now about people that have been on anti-hypertensives for 20 30 40 years now is that they have a higher incidence of cancer why because they're continually even though it's low level hypoxia right around the body so anyway so you in other words the but the body whatever symptoms you have whatever is going on is your body is already adapting to a situation so you need to just change the situation and then your body no longer needs to do that adaptive dance that doesn't have to
do the high blood pressure dance or the cancer dance or that so what is cancer the fundamental the fundamental process that all cells whether they're bacteria or elephants need to do is produce energy in fact 50 of the energy that our cells produce are required just to keep the cell uh function just to keep you know the we
have we have what are called sodium potassium gates and we have all these other things that keep the cells intact just to keep all that intact so that before the cell does any work just to keep its shape and all that 50 percent of the energy is used just for that now if the cell's going to do any work and and then have to adapt to something it's going to need more energy okay so energy is the fundamental requirement and that's why it's uh it's it's paramount so um in in our cells we're not we're not like
bacteria but in our cells um and and all the higher organisms there are these little organelles inside the cells called mitochondria they produce the energy they grab glucose and they grab oxygen six oxygens one glucose and they produce a total net total of about 36 to 38 atp atp is the currency of energy okay and you can imagine we have we have hundreds and the thousands of these little mitochondria in our cells espec it depends on the organ like the heart needs more because it's beating right
guess you know in one day let's say you thought you did nothing all day you sat on the couch all day your heart was beating 100 000 so that's pretty amazing right 100 000 times a day you know what's interesting about that as well is um i could because uh i'm an athlete uh i'm a crossfit athlete and so i use you know something that kind of tracks my heart rate my rest my recovery my sleep my calorie expenditure all that stuff and i can be on a total rest day on a sunday and do nothing just lay
around all day and my body's still burning you know over two thousand two thousand five hundred calories in a day and i've done nothing right right the body's expending all that energy just processing regenerating doing all these things that you're talking about well you know um a 10 with 36 zeros after it okay that's a big number right a 10 with 36 zeros after it that's the number of chemical reactions that are going
inside of our bodies every second every second so just you know if you think about that and then you realize there's like 60 to 100 trillion cells you realize that this is an incredible incredible thing i mean and who the question is who's running the show certainly not me you know if i had to be responsible for my digestion i'd be after eating i'd be stuck in the room all day just okay you know you can't do we
we we'd be dead we'd be dead if we had to be responsible for any function in our body can't do it so anyway it's pretty amazing so anyway now these mitochondria because they use oxygen because oxygen is necessary to get this high yield of energy from the glucose um you get what are called reactive oxygen species they break up and they're called free radicals right well we in the process of getting the energy those free radicals are necessary
they're useful the electrons from those free radicals are used right so that's how we gather energy but what happens is they they begin to accumulate and they produce damage also so they can also so they're kind of like a double-edged sword it's like oxygen is really really important right um at 21 right but you put a mask of oxygen on at 100 and within three weeks you've got emphysema okay because you've just you know the oxygen will destroy it so
we need you know without it you don't live for five minutes with too much of it you're gonna get really sick so in other words that's you know it's like that with everything but i'm talking specifically now about oxygen so in the mitochondria you wind up getting those um those reactive oxygen species which are like free radicals now because of that because of that those mitochondria are the most vulnerable to whatever happens whatever kind of um unfortunate situation happens you know um so
now if you consider our lifestyles where and you can't you can't say what caused my cancer well it's not one thing it's everything right so it's it's diet it's uh the time you go to bed it's the the amount you exercise it's the amount of alcohol you drink it's the relationships you have it's your ability to uh to to forgive i mean love it's how many deep lies you hold i mean i mean i you know i've learned a lot in the last 10 years
about how important the mind is but all of these things conspire to challenge the cell and the most vulnerable parts of the cell are the mitochondria well when 40 to 50 percent of them become dysfunctional okay through a myriad of things including emf we can't leave emf emf out right and now 5g who knows but anyway now the cell needs to survive and what does it need to do it needs to produce energy so it reverts back to the only
primordial way of making energy that's called fermentation so it starts to ferment and fermentation of glucose is how you make wine and cheese and you know that's just it's a fundamental way of making energy but it's clearly i mean it's extremely inefficient whereas with what we talked about before the mitochondria produced 38 atp for every one glucose with with fermentation one glucose produces only two which means it's 19 times
less efficient at energy production so therefore in order to survive in order to keep this multi-trillion celled organism functioning with enough energy right all of those cells that get um that lose their mitochondrial function and have to ferment they it signals the nucleus to now turn on and turn off genes so you can have a new program for the cell that supports this new metabolism this new metabolic requirement
right we're now going to deal with instead of a mitochondrial oxidative phosphorylation um uh metabolism we want to deal with a uh what they call uh fermentation i'll just call it a fermentation metabolism so it turns on certain things one of the things that turns on is it up regulates the production of insulin receptors why because cancer cells need more uh sugar need more glucose right they're 19 times less efficient so you can't change what's inside you can't change the mechanism so you have
to give it more fuel so you give it more it's like you know you think of those old trains those cold trains where the guy was shoveling the coal into the train right well the more he shoveled into the engine the faster it would go and that's the same kind of thing so the the cell needs to get all that so that's what happens it up regulates that it up regulates this enzyme and that enzyme it down regulates all these things all those all those genetic expression changes are what we call oncogenes so in the end when you're sitting there
and you say aha you have the this mcas you have whatever it is whatever your p53 you know or whatever it is all these things are really um they're done to support fermentation so what cancer is is a chronically fermenting cell that's it nothing more and nothing less the other question i don't think i want to jump into is that whether you have cancer in the brain or the breast or the or the pancreas okay the only difference is the first word okay location
the second word is cancer pancreatic cancer breast cancer brain cancer colon cancer okay so enough i want you to understand that you don't have a different kind of cancer there's no different kind of cancer it's all the same and it's the location that would make one more uh serious than another i mean serious i mean more uh has a worse reputation like pancreatic pain because of its location if it grows even a half a centimeter it's already in another organ you're in stage four
your compromi whereas a breast tumor could grow you know several centimeters and still be a stage two or three so that's without affecting physiology so really i i want people to understand that so when you say oh i have this really rare cancer rare means they haven't uh found it beginning in this particular cell type often that's all it means but it's still the same which is why the therapies to reverse it don't have to change
they're they're the same and that's that's true for whether it's lymphoma or it's a blood cancer or it's a tumor doesn't bone cancer doesn't matter it's the exact same process it's just one might be you know a worse experience or or faster or whatever than the other exactly exactly so so i want to i want to see if if i got this correctly uh if i followed along correctly the fermentation process is
almost like a built-in redundancy to keep us alive right so that's like um we're not feeding ourselves what they need they're being depleted they're being um damaged through oxidative stress through mental physical emotional stress wi-fi you already named a lot of the causes diet poor diet too much you know not enough exercise etc etc the cells the mitochondria start dysfunctioning and they go into the fermentative process basically to keep us alive but in the
fermentation process is actually what's turning the those cells into cancer cells right but they're producing um some energy to keep us alive and so cancer is actually prolonging our life is that i believe i've heard you even say that in the past exactly it's an adaptive response and and let's say let's say a tumor in the breast if that didn't happen if it didn't if it didn't adapt it would have become dead it would have died the tissue would have died and dead tissue is called necrotic tissue
and dead tissue is a is a becomes a nest for bacteria another microorganism they love it they would go you would get you would get a a horrible infection would probably get into the blood and you would die you know so i mean it's really you have to understand that about cancer but that's absolutely right i wanted uh it's not only that fermentative uh it happens every day when you exercise if you let's say um let's say you sprint up to the corner okay and you haven't been doing this
in a while by the time you get up three quarters of the way you're starting your eggs your legs are starting to ache you get up there and you're going what happened well you're because you're not in shape or even if you are in shape then it might take a little longer to get to that place but you will get to the place where you have will have exceeded your ability your your uh oxidative ability and now you start to ferment your cells start to prevent it's called glycolysis right i i i was there i did that this morning
and then the glycolysis the end result is uh lactic acid and that lactic acid is what makes your legs sore so when you're feeling that soreness you're you realize that your body is fermenting and then you go you blow off the carbon dioxide which equilibrates the and then you're okay well with cancer you can't do that because even blowing off the carbon dioxide you don't have the mitochondrial to begin to begin that really efficient process again so you're stuck in permanent so we can look at cancer as permanent
or not permanent but at least um chronic chronic fermentation um and by the way it can be turned around so if our bodies so going back to the exercise um analogy if our bodies didn't have the ability to release that carbon dioxide and then allow our system to flush that lactic acid out basically that would all become cancerous is that what you're saying but it doesn't become cancerous because because we're able to flush it out no because cancer would have to we'd
have to destroy the mitochondria to get cancer because that's the whole thing yeah so it's like an initial fermentation process it's not the full right right right yeah it's and it's fermenting not because it lost the mitochondria your cells got overworked and you don't they're not quite efficient so they temporarily had to start fermenting you know and then you have to slow down get rid of the carbon dioxide and now you can go back to being what you were and now your body has just adapted and you've uh you know increased your
capacity a little bit so the next time you do it you can go a little bit harder a little bit further exactly yeah training yeah so okay so i love how you explain that um so it's kind of posed a couple of questions that's come up why then are all these cancers you say the cancer is the cancer is the cancer it's cancer but why are they so different in the terms of where they show up and why they show up in these different areas and these different types of cancers
right well uh depending on the insults or the challenges that the cells had um will determine whether or not it becomes cancer so let's say um let's say that a woman is um living a a lifestyle you know and you know you know i've gotta from the beginning uh
uh what's the word acknowledge the fact there's there's a there's another thing about cancer too sometimes we don't understand that i have had not all most people you know they've you know what it's what's happened in their lives but some people come to me you know god i grew up on an organic farm and i was you know i was active and all this and i everybody's surprised how like why i get cancer yeah so so a lot of times we cannot identify what happened and that's you know and that's and and
and and for the same reason there's a small percentage of people who do all the right things and it doesn't work so but those are very small yeah you have to understand when i'm talking right now i'm talking about the the vast majority of people 95 plus of the people okay there's a small percentage that we just never understand it well and that's it you know i've i've found with people who i've talked to like that sometimes if you dig really really deep even someone says oh i had a great childhood or i had and you dig deep and
it's like oh there's this huge traumatic event that they forgot to mention that's still with them subconsciously today that has been an underlying stress for 35 or 40 years right so there's those things too that aren't really clear absolutely if you dug down and that's and that's if we have a chance let's talk a little bit about the mind later but anyway so if a woman let's say a woman uh is exposed to the normal lifestyle that we have here in the 21st century and her hormones are not balanced right
she's got too much estrogen not enough progesterone she's even got too much prolactin she's got that kind of thing uh let's say she wears a bra all the time she never you know she doesn't you know she doesn't uh take it off except for when she sleeps right um which pre decreases the the breasts ability to move as lymphatic you know we know it's there's actually a correlation between the number of hours a woman wears her breath her bra during the day and her risk of breast cancer you know so the
less wearing it you know this is relatively modern invention it came about actually with howard hughes invented the bras that women were today for jane russell in a movie called gentlemen prefer blondes with marilyn monroe and jane russell and uh in fact jane russell uh was given a contract if you wear this bra in this movie you will get a thousand dollars a week for the rest of your life oh my god and you know in the 90 what in 48 or whenever it came out that was
a ton of money it's still not bad you know if you if you got a thousand dollars a week for the rest of your life but anyway um that's where the new bruh this bra came and this bra actually decreases a woman's uh her breasts because normally in a healthy natural setting as a woman walked her breasts her breasts would bounce and as they bounced they would you know the lymphatic system would circulate and all that it's natural right it reminds me of the hawaiians you know back in back when the white men first came to hawaii
they weren't wearing bronze right and they were not they were surfing and they were healthy and you're large and we said no you've got to wear bras it's terrible because you know why in hawaii they didn't think of the bra at the as the breasts as sexual objects they thought they thought breasts were for the babies nothing not for the men right so they had a whole different perspective on it right but we came in anyway so now we got really sick of hawaiians but anyway so if a woman has that
constellation of exposures and the hormonal imbalance then it could show up in the breasts it's more likely to happen in the breast right that's where it'll happen um so there's always for example pancreas we know that pancreas seems to happen with people who um not always but often people eat a lot of cooked carbs okay so if you're eating a lot of cooked carbs and you've got all these kinds of stresses and there's other things too that we might not be aware of for example
microorganisms we know that while we we have a dysbiosis you know we're dope you know one of the things about probiotics that is really important for everyone to understand and that is you can take probiotics all day all day every hour oh and take my probiotic but if they if those if those bacteria once once they get into your system don't have the food that they need to eat they're going to pass right through so in other words your the bacteria that exist in your gut
are there uh will it will survive based on the food so if you have a fast food diet there's a certain set of species that will exist in there if you have a healthy diet if you eat a heavy meat diet you'll have a certain set of certain group species that survive in there so don't have to worry about the bacteria worry about the environment that's your job your job is to take care of the environment so and that's that's where prebiotics really are probably more more important than taking probiotics right
right right because remember you've got you've got more bacteria in there than you do cells in your body right you know they're going to replenish themselves you can't knock them out and that's you know we're talking anything with inulin fiber right when we're talking about prebiotics and that's pretty much fruit and vegetables to make it simple exactly exactly so the more of that you eat the well the more that you eat the more of the kinds of species that we need for our health will survive now some if you're eating a different diet you'll
it'll it'll be good food for a different sort of species which are actually pathological to us which would cause us all sorts of problems okay and we know that the gut and the brain are connected right in terms of thinking and feeling if we could so imagine you're eating a certain diet so it's going to affect the way you think and you feel and you respond it's all very very important okay so just to wrap up there um the reason these cancers are going to show up in different parts of the body is we're still learning some of those
things but like you said you know hormones out of balance more often than not it's gonna be in the breast if it's you know a lot of good carbs could be pancreas if different reasons are causing it to show up in different places a lot of meat is colon a lot of meat is colon that's kind of where i want to go next okay first of all when when you want to say what is a proper diet for any organism on the planet right you have to understand that organisms anatomy and physiology okay so you got a uh you got an elephant
right with this anatomy and physiology will tell you exactly what it should eat you've got an anteater with the long nose and the long tongue right and that that and you know what it's going to eat uh a tiger anyway our bodies our anatomy and physiology uh was our see the reason we have to debate about this is because we we were forbidden by our parents to be instinctual we were not allowed to follow our
instincts yeah our parents our parents insisted and then we insist our children to be culturally appropriate so all of our responses are cultural we've been enculturated so we don't know what would be our natural diet because if you're in thailand you're eating one kind of food if you're in germany you grow up eating another food if you're in africa you grow up eating another food and then each country thinks that their food is is the best and the only one that people should eat and it becomes your appetites it's what you crave and it's your emotional thing so um but you
know that's you know that's what that's what happens with food but anyway our anatomy and physiology is such that we are we if we look at gorillas if we look at chimpanzees these are our cousins you know why do i say cousins well um you know we may have what 67 65 percent percent same dna as a dog whereas we have 99 same dna as a gym right doesn't mean we came from dogs it doesn't mean we can't
it just means that we were designed on a similar structure oh you know we have four chambered hearts so today they have four chambered hearts right the heart lung apparatus you know the whole thing the kidneys that's a good system you know you know why would god have to make several systems once one good system so anyway um so our cousins aren't enculturated so they eat out of instinct all right and think about it let's say you had a
14 month old child oh you had one from every country one from ethiopia one from afghanistan one from kansas uh one from australia all over china and you put them each individually in this little uh play bin with an apple and a rabbit okay none of them are going to eat the rabbit they're all going to be attracted to the roundness the redness
or the greenness they're going to light it's round it's got the shade it's got something that's intrinsically attractive to a young human right and they're going to lick it and taste it and they're going to play with the rabbit that's instinctually we're not instinctually there to do that but we're forbidden that our mothers say and fathers no stop don't no stop oh don't do that so by the time we're three our appetites are formed so you me and you know this you're a father you can tell a two-year-old what
to eat you cannot tell a four-year-old what to eat okay so by three appetites are formed right and uh that's the tragedy and you have until three to get it right with your kids okay if not you're gonna spend the rest of your time trying to fix it [Laughter] it's it's a really good point you brought up because my dogs who i have allowed them to eat instinctually right if i put a rabbit in front of them they will kill the rabbit and they'll
eat it raw bone skin everything don't one word when we're out running they will hunt rabbit i never taught them to hunt i didn't teach them nothing i just i gave them you know meat raw meat from time to time and um never stopped them from trying to catch a rabbit when we're out running and they'll catch it they'll kill it and they will eat it all of it they'll pop the you know the the intestines open and the stomach filled with crap and that smells horrible and they'll eat all of it and they love it
you know and they that's a true omnivore right now if we were true omnivores like you're saying like if we were meant to eat you know quite a bit of meat and maybe some plants um i think we would crave that raw meat the bone all of it just like my dogs do exactly you know you're exactly right dogs uh all omnivores have to be capable of killing an animal because by the by the the fact that they're an omnivore
so what does that mean well that means uh that they in it for mammals they pretty much need to have a snout okay so what are the famous omnivores that we know of dogs rats and who's the big guy the bear i mean you know that the bear is like 80 90 vegetarian right this big massive thing but it's got the snout and it's got the claws it's designed so when it needs to kill it will so dogs are scavengers you know
they're they're on the horse scavengers you can actually if you've got a 12 year old dog and it's not and it's kind of losing its energy you can change it switch it to a vegetarian diet and you'll get another four years out of it because they'll live because they'll be getting less garbage i've done that a few times with dogs oh now that's that's just not feeding on the the dead dry dog food you're giving them fresh fresh food plant vegetarian what about putting them on a like a raw meat diet with something now that that's what i've seen now is that that's the
best you you put them on a raw meat diet especially from early on and they'll they'll live long we have to yeah anyway so just like it works for them it works for us as well yeah um but anyway so um you know we can get you know i won't we first of all if we were carnivores if we were omnivores then we should like use pointed out should be attracted to i mean we should see a cow walking in the in the um in the past year and go
no we don't do that we're not excited by that we're excited by the steak it's been removed it's cooked it's got a smell it has sauces on it we're not excited by a piece of bloody flesh that's not what we even instinctually we're not like that now some guys that want to beat their chest yeah there's some bizarre people that will do anything yeah uh but that doesn't mean that's where humans are humans in general don't are not attracted to that and i think the origins of cooking came from meat because you know when we were
eating you know broccoli and apples you wouldn't just eat it right you just eat it it's a good um but when it came to flesh it's kind of disgusting so you got to do something to it so of course heat um and our bodies our bodies are really designed like an herbivore right our long intestines our teeth that are made for chewing grinding plants and vegetables and things like that isn't that true i mean if you really look at carnivore omnivor herbivore our bodies are much more like an herbivore than than
either the other two well we don't have a snout right these you can say these are canines they're only in the canine position but they don't come below the inside here so so they function as an incisor they're not piercer they're not piercing dracula has that but not not the average non-vampire okay so vampires have it vampires can eat meat right so we weren't but um anyway yeah but the the the the omnivore
the omnivore doesn't chew they gulp and their jaws only move vertically their teeth are sharp their tongues are thin so they can let you know they're long and thin um their digestive tract is short and straight their livers produce a lot of uric acid it's an enzyme that breaks down uric acid which is a byproduct of protein because they have to have that and they don't sweat they pan they pant okay and and those are just some of the uh some of the uh qualities or aspects
of of the omnivore and carnivore whereas the herbivore jaws go horizontal and vertical we have full cheeks remember dogs and cats don't have cheeks they don't have lips the reason that's why when they're chewing something it'll fall out they have to pick it up you know where we have the cheeks we have the lips and it's free and we have flat teeth for grinding and our tongues are thick and muscular and and we have an enzyme in our in our mouths to digest starch not to digest protein okay so and what is starch starch is fruit right
and starches and vegetables and stuff like that you know glucose that's argue with that now it goes into a long i mean it's 10 meters or 30 feet from mouth to rectum 30 feet okay so how tall are you six foot so you know it's what six times um you know uh five times the size of your uh your whole body but uh when we look at carnivores versus
uh herbivores the torso right in a in a carnivore the torso or omnivore the torso is three times the length uh the the intestines are three times the length of the torso when we look at uh what we are herbivorous it's six to nine times so if you figure on me this is probably about almost a meter maybe three maybe two and a half feet right and 30 feet of intestines ah there we go yeah so that's a long way so the problem is when you eat meat when you eat foods like that that don't
have feet and hands like if you're eating broccoli and cabbage and things like that it's got cellulose undigestible and it's gonna it kind of moves its way through the intestines and it brushes it and cleans it and that goes through there okay whereas something that doesn't have that uh just gets pushed along and it's harder to digest and and it's and as it when it if it sits around too long it begins to putrefy and the future faction produces these these chemicals that are carcinogenic
that are all kinds of problems and maybe maybe even the most important thing is is it's food for a different species of bacteria and so our our our microbiome changes so now we've got putrified flesh sitting in our somewhere in that long 30-foot tube with a different kind of bacteria and you know and we're going uh oh yeah that was great right and you know we have gas coming out of both ends
i mean no wonder no wonder so anyway this long term i really want to see it i've got a guy here actually at the our center he and his father are like they've got youtube channels they are carnivores well you're not you can pretend you're a carnivore and you're going to see what happens your body was not designed for it and this there's no it's not a long-term solution okay it's just like ketogenic diets ketogenic diets work really well in certain circumstances and can be used but they're not
sustainable you can't stay on a ketogenic diet if you let's say you're you do it for medical purposes uh you might i would say what i tell people with cancer if we if we could we've we've been able to develop a vegan ketogenic diet um raw vegan keto it's very difficult but you do it for four to six weeks and you got to keep your glucose to ketone ratio at less than 1.0 your glucose to ketone ratio okay uh if you can do that for six four
to six weeks then you eat for two to three months a healthy diet then you do it again for four to six weeks then you eat a healthy diet it's not a sustainable thing because in order to be keto in order to produce enough ketones you've got to be uh you have to have an excess of these nutrients and not enough of these nutrients so it's not uh it's it won't work so really our diet is a variety yeah plant-based diet variety vegetables fruits nuts
seeds legumes herbs all of it right berries uh ketogenic diet the reason you're doing uh short term you know raw organic you know plant-based ketogenic diet is it's just to reduce uh inflammation quickly is that is that the reason why you're doing it in those extreme cases right that that and also cancer is uh uh by reducing the glucose yeah there's no reducing the glucose the cancer uh has a hard time living right now remember cancer though
cancer has one other fuel source it's called glutamine which is an amino acid so it can switch to glutamine and that's the problem and that's what you see in fact there are some cancers that don't show up by pet scan you know pet scans where they inject the radioactive glucose so there are some cancers like that and those are mostly glutamine right so we have to uh and what's the ultimate what's the only diet in the world that eliminates glutamine and glucose it's called h2o water water fasting water fast yeah and
i i have to tell you i had a lady come here uh stage stage four breast cancer told she didn't have six months uh did a 41 day water fast went back to england uh two months later to get a pet scan it was absolutely clean so well i went that i mean that's that's incredible and and water fasting is like really intense so you need to be with somebody like yourself professional guidance to help help you through it right um we're gonna go past two weeks
yeah i wanted to say too you know we we do have an interview with the founders of mastering diabetes i'm just going to mention here but i do encourage everyone to go listen to that interview one of the things that that all the research shows and what they talk about is that in the reason why one of the reasons i think you know as you're saying ketogenic diet is not sustainable is because that's the exact diet you would do if you want to create diabetes in the body right if you high fat is one of the fastest ways a
high fat diet is one of the fastest ways to actually make your body diabetic so you know these people that are just promoting ketogenic diet like as the life source the best you know healthiest diet on the planet actually all the research is saying the opposite like you're saying it can be good for short term for some of these you know chronic health conditions uh right it's a short period of time but not sustainable it's got some really important uh uh therapeutic uh uh uses like uh
for fasting too you know just just real quickly is that um all nature was fasting is built into it no animal in nature eats every day they might eat one one one day or two days and then they run out of food for a week so now that is intermittent fasting i want to really correct the term people keep saying that if you eat once a day you're intermittent fasting that's not intermittent fasting is a fast is when you have not eaten for 24 hours
okay if you're eating once a day it means you're eating healthy if you're eating twice a day it means you're eating healthy so what i tell my people is since insulin and glucose or the dynamic between insulin and glucose are very fundamental to pathology whether it's heart disease liver disease or cancer remember we talked about insulin and glucose and cancer you know you've got to get the you to be healthy you should have a fasting insulin of three or less a fasting insulin of
three or less most americans are 12 to 18 some go up to 25 right it's got to be three or less so the best way to manage that is to put a minimum of 18 hours between your last meal and your first meal every day now that's not intermittent fasting that's eating healthy so you stop eating at 6 p.m you eat again at noon then you eat again at 5 p.m done at 6 and you've done it you've got all your nutrition but you have 18 hours where your body
is able to clean up because when you're not eating your body's cleaning and your fat your insulin requirements go down because remember cancer needs insulin to push the glucose in so all of that it's very very very very important um but it's not intermittent fasting when you fast every third day or you fast on sundays that's intermittent fasting you're in thailand right which is primarily buddhist country uh we were talking beforehand i used to spend a lot of time at a buddhist monastery in escondido
and i i don't know if that's how it is there for for a lot of the monks at the monasteries specifically where you're at in thailand but at this monastery i used to spend time at learning meditation and learning from the monks and you know just enjoying being around beautiful healthy happy funny people um they only ate once a day they ate lunch and that was it and it wasn't based on some scientific research that it's good for you to only eat once a day it was like they knew for however many hundreds or
thousands of years that one of the healthiest ways to be and also you know detached from having you know um i mean there's also the philosophical side to it and so forth but somehow intuitively they knew like yeah eat once a day um i haven't been able to do that yet but but they certainly were very successful at it i just find that i find it fascinating you know science is great helps us understand things more clearly but if you look at our ancestors for thousands of years a lot of the wise people they've figured
out a lot of this stuff on their own without our modern scientific tools right yeah and if you're eating food that hasn't been processed it's it still has all of its nutrient nutrients it's nutrient dense and if it's the proper diet for your particular species which is human so you have a nutrient-dense meal you've done it you've taken care of your nutritional needs which is the purpose of eating the purpose of eating is not to pleasure the tongue although that's a nice side of you know side benefit but the real goal
is to keep your uh nutrients coming in for energy and for uh structure you know that that's that's what we need so if you can do that once a day and you have all that time i i was up in um myanmar burma uh when they had a flood and i was up there helping them and uh i was up in the mountains and i went to a monastery way i had to take a boat for i mean this boat for hours it was amazing beautiful incredible anyway these monks
um everybody on the monastery was monks right the whole place so when you anyway people over there don't wear shoes they don't have devices they're not at all you know it's not this century they eat the food that grows around there and they eat once a day so i was there examining the whole village right to see how everybody's health was and here i am examining these 70 80 year old men monks and they were had they had they had the bodies of 30 year olds wow they were amazing they had no
fat their bodies were you know they were tight their muscles you could you know they had a definition you know they weren't like bulky but they had definition uh their heart rates were i mean it was amazing and it's because they eat once a day and they eat and the other you know the other secret about eating is uh if you're under 30 you have to stop eating three hours before sleep under 44 hours under 50 and above five hours before sleep okay because that's the reason for that and we can do another whole talk on it the reason for that is because one of
the greatest benefits of sleep is auto fashion for our body to eat up and get rid of the the debris it won't do that if it's still absorbing food that has glucose because it doesn't need to so auto fashion gets turned on by the lysosomal system in the cells when there's no more glucose coming in but if you ate a meal an hour before you're still absorbing it while you're sleeping you're not going to get that benefit right so so and the reason it's three four and five hours is because digestion slows down as you
age the ability to digest right and so and since you should go to bed at the very latest 9 p.m you have to start if you're 30 and under stop eating at 6. if you're 40 stop eating at five fifty stop eating it four and that's just and then 18 hours great four times a year do a two week fast and that's it you can't you know you'll have to be hit by a bus so so so 50 and older which is
most people who are tuning in here to the symposium you're saying at least five hours stop and that's that's whether you're 60 70 80. it doesn't necessarily keep going up you're 80 years old you need to stop eight hours before or do it but but think about what the monks are doing the monks eat uh it depends on what country they're in either 11 a.m to 12 or 12 to one around there right so there they all have eight 10 hours 12 hours before they uh or 10 hours so so you're just that
that window of time you're allowing your body to finish processing the glucose from the food so now it can start cleaning the debris out while you're sleeping and your night will be fantastic and if you're going to bed with the sun as the sun sets your eyes closed if you're doing that which is a natural life you and that's a whole another left talking lecture but you you set up a whole system of hormones and your circadian rhythm and you're in sync with your nature your biorhythms you're just
you become it's amazing in fact it's the most important thing you can do more important than eating right the reason i say that is because if you go to bed early you will then have something that you don't have when you go to bed late and that's called willpower going to bed late you wake up in the morning you're on your third cup of coffee you're driving by the donut shop or you're driving by whatever it is that mcdonald whatever it is and you're gonna say okay just one but you woke up you went to bed early you woke up you did your meditation you
did your reading you did your exercise you're out the door there's no way you're going to mess with that beautiful wonderful feeling you're going to say no way i'm not going to do that so what i always let people know is that the train you get on tomorrow you you get on the train you will be on tomorrow is the one you get on at the time you go to sleep you go to sleep at 8 pm you're on the a train you go to sleep at 11 p.m you're on the f train and and it's only it's because you're not going to get restorative sleep you're not going to respond right you're
yeah you're going to get a lot of dreams so you won't be crazy but you you're not you're not going to get restorative sleep that you need you have a 20 20 plus of deep sleep at night which is beyond rem sleep a lot of people think rem sleep is the most important it's not the most important it's that that deep restorative sleep right right two cycles there's two cycles before our set point which is around 1 am before that set point we have 90 minute cycles the majority of the cycle is restorative and a little bit of ram
after that set point at 1 am or whatever whatever time it is for that your particular person is reversed the majority is ram and a little bit of restorative sleep so if you went to bed at 11 you only got maybe a half a cycle or one cycle of good restorative sleep and you got a lot of ram so and if you don't get rem you'll go crazy you'll kill people you'll be angry right but so that's what ram is for rem is to get it's kind of like steam letting off psychological steam but but the restorative sleep is what you need to to stay healthy and
young and and your immune system and all that and most people are not getting it ever i mean how many people go to bed early very rare most people go to bed at least 10 11 11 12. so listen i know we could go on for hours you are such a wealth of knowledge and information and inspiration that we covered probably 20 things that we never even intended on covering and i'm you know grateful for you just just unloading
all of these you know nuggets of wisdom um i know we could do three or four or five different interviews on different subjects i know i told people tuning in make sure you're taking notes because you're gonna learn a lot and and i think people really learned a lot so dr lodi thank you it's always a pleasure i just appreciate you sharing and doing everything you do you're welcome my pleasure absolutely [Music] wow what a truly powerful interview i know we covered a lot of ground in a short time with dr lode and he
he can be quite the character he's got a funny way of helping us see some deeper truths about our own human anatomy and give us some things to think about when it comes to what cancer actually is which foods are right for our body what our instinctual nature might actually be and a lot more next up we have brian vasely sharing with us the toxins you must avoid when shopping for beauty and household products why the cosmetics industry is like the wild west forcing you to gamble with your health how to cleanse your home of carcinogens
and other toxins with simple natural methods and a lot more if you use soap shampoo toothpaste lotion or cosmetics of any kind you must listen to this interview it could be life-saving additionally please make sure to share this by clicking the button below the video and helping get this information out to people who need it the most so let's learn how to cleanse your body and your home of carcinogens and other toxins with simple natural methods with brian vasely brian bailey's been a prominent leader
researcher and advocate in natural health and wellness for over 20 years he's the founder of the popular health destination the art of whose mission is to empower people with the most effective evidence-based natural solutions to look and feel their best avoid and overcome disease and live longer doing it in the past couple years he's created and hosted several highly acclaimed online summits featuring today's top anti-aging and longevity doctors and researchers that have been heard by over 600 000 people
brian's also the founder of one of the world's only providers of premier quality and fully usda certified organic anti-aging skin care products he's authored multiple bestsellers and appeared extensively in major media channels i have actually interviewed brian uh not too long ago about a similar subject and i'll tell you what what you're going to learn today from him in is going to surprise you it's going to shock you but it's also going to empower you and give you the information you need to get rid of those items in your house
that have known probable and likely carcinogens which are proven to cause cancer and what to do about it to protect yourself and your family so you have a greater chance of living longer and healthier and disease free brian hey brother thank you so much for being here man hey i'm excited to be here i'm looking forward to this conversation love your work love what you're doing in this particular event man so here we go totally and i want to dive right in i mean you've got a couple of decades you know
researching experimenting interviewing so many of the top experts and so you have so much experience and wisdom as well as practical advice to share so i just want to dive in get to the nuts and bolts for people um so let's let's start by talking about the dangers of the cosmetics that are in most people's households i know this is a huge focus for you what do people need to know about their cosmetic products their skin care products soap shampoos etc
well great question and i i like to start by having people think about when they're pushing that grocery cart down the aisles when you're when you're in a aisle that you generally think of as food hopefully you're being very cautious you know about what you're choosing you're paying close attention to the labels you're avoiding some of those foods that we all know you know should be reduced you know the processed foods the high sugar foods
and you're very wary of what you put inside your body that way but i want everyone to try to remember the next time you are going down that grocery aisle uh grocery store that when you're pushing your grocery cart down those cosmetic aisles and the personal care products aisles you're pushing it down a food aisle people don't think about it like that um we tend to think of for example our skin as this surface that's somehow in a way foreign
to the rest of our our body something we can experiment on or throw stuff on and it's not going to make much of a difference but i would tell you not to do that your skin literally eats so when you apply anything to it anything at all to it if the molecules are small enough they can penetrate and go deep into your skin into your bloodstream and get sent you know through the organs throughout your body
and here's the thing most of these products um skin care products of a wide variety soaps like you said anti-aging serums and creams and moisturizing creams and so on and so forth they are designed to penetrate your skin the molecules are small enough and unfortunately they can be loaded today with all sorts of synthetic and toxic chemicals
now let's question briefly why because i think that a lot of people have this implicit trust nathan that oh they would not allow that bad of stuff in those things would they the same way i think we had that impression um you know with food years ago and then we learned better well here's the thing the cosmetic industry the personal care products industry
is the most unregulated industry in the united states major industry and since 1938 uh when as the last time the fda passed any type of substantial legislation at all in regards to the industry it basically said to them you guys are going to self-regulate watch yourselves we're out of here and it's become since that time a wild west of you know what they allow in
these ingredients um let me pause here nathan and you know see if you have any questions on that front i think that's crazy i mean you know one that these chemicals are allowed into our skincare products as well as our food products i mean i was just talking with you offline for a moment you know i'm writing my next book right now about cancer and doing tons and tons of research not that i've already done tons and tons of research in the last eight years specifically on cancer i'm doing even
more now and and backing it all up with scientific data you know hundreds of peer-reviewed studies that i'm linking to in the book and i just did a whole section on carcinogens and the the known probable says three kinds of carcinogens right known meaning we know for a fact we have proven these cause cancer the probable most likely absolutely these are going to cause cancer and then the reasonable
believe to be cancer-causing so pretty much in these three groups there are hundreds of carcinogens that are most of them are man-made in factories and laboratories and many of them you find in your food products and in your skin care products and in your soaps and your shampoos and these things that we know cause cancer and yet they're allowed in these products it blows my mind but the problem is most people as you said don't realize what you're putting on your skin actually penetrates right
into your body goes into your bloodstream into your organs sometimes that can even be worse than eating the carcinogen right eating the food with the toxin because it's going straight through the bloodstream and so yeah what are some other things people need to know about this and what are some things people need to look out for right well you explained it quite well and um you know what let's expand a little bit on on what you mentioned uh i point out that it's actually more
dangerous than eating toxins because when you put a food that may contain some type of toxin into your body it has a fighting chance of eliminating it because it goes through a series of filters inside your body the liver you know being the most renowned and main filter that's trying to bump it out now when you when you're applying creams and serums and deodorants and so forth directly to your skin as we
have noted well your skin is literally eating these chemicals and it has no such filter in place there is no liver in place and so indeed it does go right into the bloodstream and spread uh you know like we said around the body now here's here's what here's what the you know the big cosmetic uh personal care products industry would say yes we know that there's 200 plus you know potentially carcinogenic and
indeed carcinogenic ingredients some of which we use in our products not to mention many more endocrine disrupting and other types of toxic ingredients sure we know that but we studied this and it's in such minute quantities you got nothing to worry about you know because we we exposed you know maybe in some cases in some cases they didn't at all but maybe we exposed rats to this once and it didn't really bother them and just you know in these proportions well guess what
if i used nathan deodorant one single day in my entire life i'd be cool with that i'd be like all right well i'm only going to use this deodorant once you know a year and it's a minor new amount of you know of these chemicals i could stomach that but we don't do that people need to remember they are feeding their body this stuff every single day day after day after day year after year after year decade after decade we're putting the deodorants under our arms
and very you know uh permeable place down there we're putting stuff on our face uh you know uh etc etc and just imagine in your mind like you said nathan i would rather in many cases eat these chemicals through my mouth than do what we're doing because there is no barrier there's no liver in the way and imagine in your mind you're feeding yourself these chemicals on and on and on every day and it's slowly spreading and accumulating throughout the body i will
say this if folks have symptoms and they're not sure what those symptoms are from and that could be anything uh dis as many things at least gastrointestinal issues dizziness um you know nausea just general fatigue and on and on i can go but if folks have these mystery symptoms i would strongly suggest it may well be the personal care products and the
cosmetics that you're using so please you know i'll get to the bottom line and we can expand more on this but please view it as food because it is and you don't want to be feeding your body what so many of these products contain we can we can take a dip into some of the chemicals again you noted yourself there's hundreds the problem is there's literally thousands here's a big statistic for everybody there are over 1300 chemicals
banned by the european union in cosmetics and personal care products and here in the united states there's 11. just 11 banned that's the state and the power of the industry in this country you know behind that uh you know by some accounts the the personal care beauty industry is a 500 billion dollar industry but if you threw in all the chemical companies it's a much bigger industry even than that they hold a lot of sway
a lot of power i am going to tell you again it's as unregulated as it gets you need to be a super educated consumer on this front in order to fight um overcome cancer any other diseases if again if you've got these mystery symptoms as well this is this is so much more important than most people realize nathan yeah i mean you know carcinogenic obviously means that we know it leads to cancer but these chemicals as you're you know
talking about can lead to so many other health issues autoimmune disease and you know um addictions and uh sensitivities to things and chronic fatigue and all kinds of other problems a whole host of issues in addition to cancer but i want to share a study um i remember from years ago i believe it's from 2012. they took a breast tissue samples from women who had breast cancer and i can't remember you know how many women were part of
this study but they found that um 99 of these tissues that were tested cancer tumor tissues had parabens in them and this was 99 of the women that were tested and if you look at you know deodorant for example most deodorants have parabens in them and you're putting it under your armpit well that that one of your most absorbent you know lymphs in your
lymphatic system is right under your armpit and so um and you know the other thing is there are parabens in lotions and in all kinds of skin care products so you know there's you can't say specifically oh that deodorant caused your cancer it's almost always an accumulation and a combination of multiple things including the deodorants and skin care products and lotions and other things that have parabens and
a dozen 15 22 25 other toxic chemicals in them going in your body day in and day out as you were talking about yeah yeah yeah you're right on with that study i mean and you know parabens well thank goodness it's it's received more spotlight um in recent years i will say um you know there's a challenge with that too because you know so many uh boutique and big brand products alike have jumped on that
almost and and they may have extracted parabens but when you see and i'll get more into green washing and how to be cautious of this as well if you want me to but uh when you see paraben free on the label just okay you know not that's a step but turn the product around never believe you know a company's own claims i'll just say it and i run you know purity woods like you said you know which is a skin care company and i will tell you myself
don't don't just take the word you know that we're saying about our product make sure it's independently certified you know pure and clean and turn that product around that says paraben free and read that label carefully you know and if there's these big long you know lists of ingredients that sound you know like a science project to you well you know you know what to do in that case run that's exactly what it is it's a science project it is always right yeah you're right and it's almost it really actually is because like i
said literally a company can put anything in a product that they want to it doesn't have to be tested anywhere at all and they can stick it on a shelf and sell it and almost almost say virtually anything they want about what it can do and you know here's the thing um of course they're not going to intentionally put an ingredient that has an immediate negative effect in in large amounts you know they want to stay in business they want to rock they
want to sell their stuff but they earlier had referenced you know it's the mid and long-term effects the accumulation um sometimes the you know effects are not even that mid before they start showing up by the way ironically a lot of these anti-aging products you know from from big brands and boutiques alike actually aid you faster but like fast food nathan they they can have some pretty
good effects on the spot so you know how you you know people i'm sure everyone listening maybe and hopefully you're not really eating it much if at all anymore but fast food at one point in your in your life if not now you know it felt pretty good to go and get a big mac or whatever it was it you know it's tasty on the spot it was carefully designed in fact to have the right mouth feel and everything so it's appealing to all our bases senses right um it's not different at all with these products containing
all these synthetic and toxic chemicals they are designed to produce these effects that you desire anti-wrinkle not smelling you know with deodorants and so on and so forth not sweating up your shirts and they will they will produce those effects in the short term you'll get some of those benefits often but like fast food you're paying a massive price for it you have to decide if it's worth it to get cancer um to not be able to fight effectively
if you have cancer and you know to suffer all these other symptoms we talk about and i think most people if not everyone would say you know it really isn't worth it especially when there's so many alternatives out there and here's here's also the thing we talked about labels nathan the problem because you brought up and you're so right about different types of carcinogens you know but there's another categorization which is indirect carcinogens in other words they meaning the manufacturers of these
products have no clue what the combined effect of many of these ingredients these synthetics they're putting in their products is they know they may have a test to know that this ingredient and this ingredient separately are minor toxins uh you know in the short term but there are so many indirect carcinogens produced from the combination of two or more ingredients and they don't have a clue about you know what many of those are nor are they
required to have a clue there's one that's pretty well known one for dioxane it's called and it you won't see it listed on ingredients labels because they don't intentionally add it but it's a byproduct of a couple of other ingredients uh you know sodium laureth sulfate being one of them when these ingredients are in a product and they're in soaps they're in
cleansers they're in uh you know other beauty care products sodium lauryl sulfate and such they combine and they create one for dioxane which is a horribly carcinogenic ingredient it's a it's got a high hazard rating of eight in california's uh environmental working groups cosmetic database it's um you know it's on multiple lists of top carcinogens and it's out there it's out there in the stuff we're slathering on our skin so you know i just can't stress enough how
people need to be conscious of this yeah you know it's it's scary because and it reminds me of you know looking at nature for example nature has these synergistic complementary infusions that are designed to support the body when certain ingredients are mixed together a great example there's hundreds of examples of this but a great one a lot of people know today is a combination of turmeric and black pepper
or bioperine or you know what there's a lot of different names for the molecule or people are rebranding anyway turmeric and black pepper you mix them together the black pepper actually uh increases the absorption of the benefits of the you know the anti-inflammatory benefits and so forth from the turmeric into your bloodstream synergy together creates a better result for your body in nature the problem is in laboratories when we're mixing chemicals and you can do these little science experiments we do with our kids where
you know you put a few different chemicals together and all of a sudden you get a huge explosion you know like a little volcano and that's what they're doing in these laboratories as you're saying is mixing all these different chem i mean you can look at shampoos and soaps and skin care products and see 20 different chemicals in there you know that are mixed together that as you said they're not studying on because they're not required to but the dangers of all these additional side effects that can come from mixing
all these chemicals has a reverse synergistic effect it has a degistic effect i don't know if there's a word for that i just made it but i like it you know where it's going to do the opposite as you said it makes this byproduct which is extremely carcinogenic so we know and hopefully people tuning in are taking us very seriously you know the chemicals in on your skin care your lotions all uh your soaps your shampoos like we have to
eliminate those from our lives if we want to live longer and healthier and more likely to reverse diseases like cancer what are some other key toxins maybe we don't think about that are in the house that we need to be aware of well you're going to find these and other chemicals as well in your cla in your cleansers that you use to clean your home um you know i hope folks by now have heard heard that as well uh you're gonna i mean
vocs you know volatile organic compounds a lot of people don't necessarily think about how the furniture and the carpeting and the flooring and the cabinet tree in their homes uh makes a big impact on your health and well-being i mean goodness gracious we're we're in our homes now 90 plus you know of the times or in some type of indoor environment over 90 percent of the time first of all we need to switch that statistic out and try to lower that and get outside as much as we can
but we are inside the vast majority of time and we are surrounded nathan um not only are we slathering it on our skin every day but we're surrounded by items where we have a choice and i understand that we we don't have unlimited funds and we can't all make you know change on every single step of the way all at once and that's okay first of all the big key is to be aware of this you know aware of this all some of the
changes you know what i love about you know back on the cosmetics and personal care products is it's a relatively easy change to make to switch to far healthier and safer alternatives it's it's not expensive it's it's it's a fast change that you can make today um i get it with items in the home that could be you know off gas and creating these vocs you can't just you know we all don't have the capability of ripping out all of our carpet and changing it tomorrow we don't all have the capability of going and
changing our kitchen cabinets uh you know uh to both environmentally friendly and much healthier for our own bodies types of cabinets but it's something to be aware of and it's just step by step in that direction um you know it's it's not easy and it's different depending on who you are what your health situation is you know what you've got going on in your life your funds you know and so many different factors but i kind of nathan dumb it down to
how close is it you know to to to what i'm allowing into my being what i mean is this the reason that i get so passionate about the cosmetics and personal care products is because again you are applying these you're feeding them directly into your body every single day whereas something like um you know a a printer you know that you may only in your office which i highly suggest you put as far away from your your desk
as possible um but you're only around that sometimes so if you have to prioritize my point is this you know how much are you putting this into your body you know the air you breathe inside your home is another crucial crucial area nathan to focus on for this very reason because you're breathing in constantly and if you're constantly breathing in highly toxic air which the air inside homes can be up top if not more 100 times more polluted than outside it's another top area to focus on if
you're only occasionally exposed to a printer or you're only occasionally exposed to that room in the house with carpeting it's important but i would prioritize it a bit lower if you've got to rank things i don't know does that make sense what i'm saying it makes perfect sense you know it's it's reminding me of a couple things i want to share one is um there's a series of talks and presentations we're doing as part of this symposium all about detoxing and cleansing and fasting getting these toxins out of your body
um safe ways to do it effective ways to do it ways of support your your healing and longevity i want to encourage people go listen to those interviews those presentations after this one because they're going to support you in getting these toxins out of your body the second thing i want to share is about the air quality you just mentioned so as you said you know the studies have shown inside our houses we are exposed significantly to more toxins
and are constantly breathing in these chemicals that are off-gassing from all these you know chemically made products and carpets and and uh your furniture and so forth and if you're not spending a lot of time outside breathing fresh air or if you're in a city where that air is also very polluted you're constantly bombarding your body with all of these toxins and then if you're putting you know toxins on your skin and in your food etc your body is just basically a toxic cesspool so you got to get those toxins out one of the things that my wife's been doing
um here in the house we've always had plants in the house but i recently saw a study from nasa in 1989 that to clean the air in the average home if you put a plant one to two plants per hundred square feet so let's say an average house might be around 1800 square feet it's about 15 to 18 plants so a few plants in each room right that will purify your air better than any air purifiers you can buy
so these are just plants a little bit of soil some water they're going to help clean your air which is hugely effective very cheap and affordable and you're getting a lot of other benefits from living plants in your home in addition to clean air one of the best ones we found is aloe vera actually it's actually a single aloe vera plant i can't remember the number at the moment but they found a single aloe vera plant can actually purify x amount times more than i think like
four or six or 12 air purifiers in your home a single aloe vera plant don't fill your house with only aloe vera plants have diversity right just like nature it's all about diversity um so it's just one thing i want to share with people it's it's really really profound uh having these plants in your in your home purifying the air getting the toxins out of your your products um and the other thing is using products that are only organically certified that
have no toxins that have no chemicals speaking of you know my wife's been using your purity woods um like age age defying dream cream which you know we both love the the ingredients that are in it's all organic it's all pure i've only been using organic you know products for geez well over 10 12 years now our soaps and shampoos are 100 organic they're simple castile oil based you know they're just
essential oils and so forth uh 100 organic plant-based toothpaste no sodium lauryl sulfate as you were talking about green washing when we were getting into this you know years ago we'd buy these natural healthy products and then later find out they've got these hidden chemicals in them you know and so it's like geez you just have to be diligent about it you have to say look no chemicals whatsoever because they sneak them in it's got to be pure plants you understand
what the ingredient is it's very clear it's not some factory chemical made you know in a laboratory so you know just a few key things to to look out for and i know your skin care line is is is doing exactly that i also use your hand sanitizer because it's just organic basically alcohol-based you know hand sanitizer it doesn't have a bunch of the chemicals like most those hand sanitizers have as well yep yeah well i appreciate that uh yeah let's talk briefly about green
washing i'll just say again never believe what's on the front of a label never quite believe what's in a marketing copy when you see terms like hey it's organic it's wild crafted it's natural you know it's paraben free shut shut down almost to that and and turn that product around and look at the ingredient label if you're there or you know make sure they post what the ingredient label is if it's online uh clearly if they're hiding if it's hard to get to
there's a reason there's also a number of certifications you know that you want to work watch closely for from my experience and you know certainly research the heck out of this in this country of the united states you want to make sure like nathan said it's usda certified organic that means it was independent of the company and that's a key point here um strictly verified you know to be organic and that doesn't just mean it doesn't have toxic
ingredients in the product that also means the source ingredients that are in the product were raised on farms organically so no pesticides no herbicides and such and that's another important point back on the greenwashing if they say organic it's unregulated that means they can have one single organic ingredient in there amidst 50 70 you know whatever synthetics they could still call it organic they could scream it to the moon and a lot of people will fall for it you know oh it's organic i got to get
that no turn it around or make sure it has usda certified organic which also includes non-gmo as part of its requirement which is you know another important point so thanks for bringing up um yeah purity woods products uh the age-defying dream cream you mentioned and um indeed this is this is a really really powerful anti-aging cream that's usda certified organic very hard to achieve that i can tell you from experience i won't go you know too deep into what's in it but
i will point out a couple of key ingredients now probably the superstar of superstars in that is red maple leaf extract and two other uh maple leaf extracts and that might be news to a lot of people you know because they probably in most cases never heard of that um come you know this powerful extract coming from maple leaves so real quick i'll just say a 2018 uh study which received a lot of fanfare showed that there's these special compounds inside of red
maple leaf extracts that blocks elastase which is a uh it basically causes the breakdown of elastin in skin especially as we get older this is a very special compound inside of these products that have other excellent compounds as well that can reverse that we've seen remarkable benefits um i've been involved in many product launches over the years nathan and what you and your wife are experiencing with it is uh it's kind of become the rule it's the most remarkable product i've ever
been involved in so thanks for bringing that one up there are other ingredients in it that are superstars as well um you brought up aloe leaf so it's you know it's organic aloe leaf juice is in it and what a great plant that is by the way i could talk probably here for an hour about all the benefits of aloe in many different ways you're right it cleans the air it's also exceptional you know for your skin in any number of ways i can go on with other ingredients let me jump real quick to the other one you mentioned you know with with all going on in the
world with the pandemic etc you know um it is important as we've been told to to sanitize our hands out there but you're right typical hand sanitizer is is downright dangerous now i'm not even referring to the fact that uh you know there there was a rash of methane um infested uh hand sanitizers put on the market uh you know and they and there was a lot of news around that but they're loaded these typical sanitizers with
other highly um well flat out bad chemicals so just be honest about it so thank you for bringing that up because you don't need to do that granted it's a harder process it's a little more you know a painstaking of a process to create a sanitizer that's usda certified organic which it is in our case but it makes all the difference especially because again you're rubbing the stuff directly into your skin as we talked about earlier feeding it to your body so you know it's just important and thanks for bringing this up nathan yeah
absolutely and i love love the work you do and the fact that you've you know made this your mission to help bring these good quality you know products and information to the world i'm all about that support that 100 encourage people to you know check out try those 100 organic certified products uh you know replace all your skin care products your shampoos your soaps your lotions your deodorants with organic just purely nature based
ingredients again you have to listen to what brian said you can't believe what's on the front of these bottles i mean read the front oh all natural and pure and clean and you know and they show a nice grapefruit and and they show a mango grapefruit seed and mango and you read the back and it's like that's one percent of the ingredients because it's at the bottom and the top percent is you know water sodium lower sulfate a list of 18 different chemicals and then some grape seed and some
you know mango in there and so you're getting you know 80 water 18 chemicals and 2 good stuff right so really pay attention get those chemicals out of your house out of your body out of your products you're going to see benefits long term you know you may go through some detoxing when you start getting all these chemicals out of your body that's why once you listen to detox and fasting and cleansing talk so you can do it safely and effectively but once these toxins are out of your body you have such a stronger
fighting chance for your immune system your endocrine system your gut health all these different aspects that help you stay healthy live longer and disease free you're going to have such a better fighting chance to reduce your cancer risk even potentially you know prevent cancer and even potentially reverse cancers so as we wrap up here brian one you've already shared a ton of great information i think it's you know we've made it really practical for people which is my uh goal with every interview on the symposium people can walk away
with actual things to start doing today to improve their health what other you know even if it's just a couple what are some of your other top longevity anti-aging tips that you that you do with you and your own family or that you'd love to share for people who are looking to live longer and healthier yeah great question and you know i've got a list of about 10 to 12 running through my mind right now
but let me let me close out on on on this it's it seems it can seem complicated it can seem overwhelming you know hearing all this for folks and um you know like i said earlier i i try to say first of all if you're getting stressed about doing anything any of these steps you know that's that could be worse than the change you're making it so just list it out whatever resonates with you you know and your being is saying yes
that makes sense and it is pretty easy start there start with the low hanging fruit again the these changes you can make with cosmetics and personal care products are relatively easy you know it's it's important as heck nathan to get proper exercise and move as we've heard for some people that's that's a little more challenging to do so take that step by step but the point is with personal care products it's an easy change to make so why not you know next step you know in your in your pantry hopefully you've already done this but some of those
changes are quite easy to make clear it off your shelf keep it out of the house and put the you know healthier things on your shelf as well but but let me pull back you know the camera to a wider scope um it can all seem complicated and overwhelming but i like to you know including to my family note that it's really just about your being your body your being is a sacred space and it all comes down to just constantly ask yourself
what am i allowing inside my being now there are some things you you can't keep every single toxin out which is why it's important as can be to detox which nathan's material is unbelievably great for now but that said you can greatly take steps step by step to reduce what you're allowing inside your being nathan when when when i adjusted my thinking and i really started doing that what am i allowing inside my being and what should i keep out it really just made it
much easier and and clear to me you know in a calm way you know just to keep taking steps in the direction of not allowing the toxic stuff in and only the stuff like this discussion we're having like this event you're putting on allowing those sorts of things in that can make us feel better and therefore live longer last thing i'll say on this it doesn't only go for physical goods
for for cosmetics for food for furniture for flooring it doesn't uh certainly for the air which is a physical thing but it's not only about that perhaps equal if not even superior to that are what toxic things are you allowing inside your being that are more uh i guess we'll say ethereal in nature who are you around toxic people are you allowing toxic media into your head again like fast food
we can tend to watch nathan some programs on tv perhaps the evening news that feel important that feel good to us or these you know certain tv shows that make us feel riveted but that doesn't mean they're good for us and in fact they can really drag us down and by dragging us down emotionally they are dragging down our physical health just be conscious of how these things make you feel because that's that's the key of keys truly to live long and
well is questioning and being very vigilant about what you are allowing inside your being i love that it's a great place to end brian i mean i think many of us want to live longer but at the end of the day it's the quality of life you said live long and well yes i know people in their lives are extended 5 10 15 even 20 years through modern medicine the problem is that quality of life is so degraded it's so depleted it's low
energy they don't feel good as you said they're just you know getting by the mundane day-to-day with pain and with chronic disease and like that's not the quality of life we're looking for so it's all these things that you shared everything we're sharing in all these interviews that can really help and support people to live a longer better quality of life so brian thank you so much for you know just sharing all your great experience your tips your advice here with everyone thank you for you know the great work you've put together with the art of
i encourage people to check that out and the great products you put together through purity woods and um yeah man just appreciate you for continuing to share your great knowledge and wisdom here oh well thank you and keep doing what you're doing in the world nathan you're making a huge and positive difference so i appreciate you having me on here absolutely brother my pleasure that was truly excellent and practical information from brian about all the toxins we can avoid to help our bodies heal that are hiding in so many of the products we use
today it's really the simple things that can have such a profound impact over the long term replacing all of our soaps and lotions and deodorants and shampoos and cosmetics with organics and non-chemical-laden products is one of the first steps in addition to the things that go on our bodies we need to be vitally aware of what we're putting in our bodies we often turn to supplements to help us get adequate nutrition and support our healing but there's some serious problems with supplements that are essential to know
before choosing which supplements we should take so next up we have jonathan hunsaker is going to share with us the dirty truth about supplements we talk about how many of your supplements are being extracted from oil byproducts the major difference between whole foods supplements and synthetic supplements how to determine the quality of ingredients in your supplements and more make sure to stick around for the full interview as there are some critical nuggets of wisdom you don't want to miss and in case you feel you might miss any
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highest quality cleanest organic supplements available jonathan started this company because of the huge demand for quality supplements at affordable prices in addition to being the founder of organics jonathan is a co-founder and the executive producer of the mega hit truth about cancer docu-series he just completed his first marathon in the summer of 2019 and has lost over 90 pounds in the last few years after committing to a healthier overall lifestyle which includes his own organic supplements he's a health
enthusiast who is passionate about fitness and committed to delivering supplements that can really make a powerful difference in the health and lives of others jonathan brother thank you so much for joining us man absolutely thanks for having me yeah so i'd love to start with a little bit about your own experience with health your own journey obviously you know you uh were significantly overweight and had some health challenges of your own um but you were also involved in the truth about cancer docuseries from from the very beginning right so how did
being involved in that help you transform your own health to the obviously healthier version of yourselves that you are today absolutely yeah it seems like everything just came together at one time so it was beginning to early 2014 um i was 270 pounds smoking a pack and a half of cigarettes a day and had been for 20 years um and was probably drinking six or seven nights out of the week i was living down in a
uh down in central america down in panama i say living but i think i was more living to like i wanted to die and so right when i got involved in that project found out probably within a week that my girlfriend at the time was pregnant with our oldest daughter and so when all of those things come together there's a sign from somewhere telling you um it's time to make a shift in your life and so that's what i did in 2014 um it took a couple months and some effort but quit smoking quit the drinking change the diet and
just just started that entire path of getting healthy and changing my life to the point to where just a few years later i went and took a lot of um different athletic tests and it showed that like my biological age was in my early 30s even though i'm 42 years old right now we're in the marathon it the amazing damage you can do to your body over so many years can be reversed and you can make changes in just a short amount of time and that's what i did and continue to to try to live a healthy lifestyle now
yeah you obviously look healthy you know and and you've obviously made some massive changes i mean 90 pounds that's almost an entire human being that you've lost off of your your body which is significant to reducing your own cancer risk to increasing your own longevity to you know helping uh obviously having an impetus like a deeper reason or meaning for our own health our own lifestyle change such as the you know the upcoming birth of uh of
a child right i know i have two two children myself and i know that um when my children were born it's like they just give you more meaning more purpose more passion to take better care of yourself but at the same time we're you know talking to mostly people who are 50 and older and in many cases um who have cancer or other chronic challenges or trying to prevent cancer right and and they're also looking for that impetus and and i think oftentimes it's
doesn't have to be something so drastic as the birth of a new child it can just be a deeper reason for wanting to live and so is there anything else for you that you know obviously in addition to your your own child that has just helped pull you forward to do sometimes the challenging things that you have to do to make those changes so that you can lose that weight you can get healthier you can you know run a marathon you know quit drinking quit smoking all these kinds of things i'm i don't think there's just any one
thing right i think there's got to be that desire to live and i think there's multiple things around that right so being involved with the truth about cancer and i know your audience i mean we talk about 50 and above is it that grandchild that's coming right that you need to find that reason to live is it to be around longer for your kids is it just so you don't huff and puff getting up off of the couch right is it so that you can go walk so that you can move your body free i mean i think there's a lot of things it's never just one thing right it's not like every morning i woke up thinking
daughter coming gotta go train right like there's many days that the training didn't happen there's many days that the eating healthy did not happen and a lot of times and especially when i run now i mean i ask myself why am i doing this and the number one answer every time is for me right and then the number two answer is to set a good example for my daughters and i do that every day when i go out for a runner every time i go running so i think first and foremost it's gotta be for you and and if that can't be reason enough then find that other reason whether
that's a child whether that's a pet whether that's a spouse um whether that's just to see what the world looks like in 20 years right yeah that's that's that's a great point i mean if you're uh if you have the the desire within yourself to feel better live longer have a better quality of life that alone is strong enough to pull you through the the hard times through the terror through the dark times right i know in my own life very similar you know addiction and chronic illness and all kinds of
challenges and grew up on vaccines and antibiotics and sick all the time and it it took really you know wanting to know what it's like to live healthy and strong and vital um for me to change my life right and so i think that's a really good key that you just shared is find that passion that desire within yourself that can pull you forward to the better version the healthier version of yourself and that could just be you know less pain more energy more clarity um you know whatever it could be so you
feel better we all want to feel good right we all want to be happy we all want to be healthy we all want to feel good and so you know that's led you obviously into starting this supplement company organics which you've had mega success with right and obviously as someone who owns a supplement company you get to see firsthand into what really happens behind the scenes with supplements so maybe you can share with us you know over your years like what are some of the most shocking things you've discovered with many of the supplements today that
maybe most people just don't know about absolutely so and before i do that i just want to clarify like i'm not a doctor i'm not a scientist i'm not an academic uh i would say i'm a researcher now but that's just out of the demand um all my life i've just i i was an entrepreneur when i was 17 door-to-door salesman at 14. um i've just been good at solving problems i guess and finding people who were good at helping me solve problems and so with the journey with the truth
about cancer we had a lot of people that were looking for good quality supplements and as we went down that rabbit hole right i didn't know then this is where i would be this is just where life is taking me we started going down that rabbit hole and realizing there weren't a whole lot of good quality supplements out there there's more now than they were back in 2016 when we started the company but yeah there just there wasn't a whole lot to recommend and so that's why we started kind of the supplement company and what
i discovered along the way this isn't by the way a pitch to come by my products this is just to help you find the right products for yourself and know that you're getting supplements that are actually going to make a difference in your life because the reality is 98 if not 99 of the stuff out there on the store shelves on the internet is just junk most of the money is spent on marketing over hype you know citing all of these different um research papers and and all of these different you know
studies that were done but they're not applicable to that supplement that's using those studies so you ask what are some of the biggest things that that were surprising for me i think the biggest thing to to really understand and a lot of your audience may already know this is there's a big difference between a whole food supplement and a synthetic supplement most of your one-a-days out there your centrum silvers your um you know all the other one-a-days that are being sold on the store shelves out there are synthetic
and so the vitamins the minerals they're actually being extracted from things like oil and tar and oil byproducts right so they have all of this byproduct from drilling oil and they need to do something with it so they can extract extract these different vitamins and minerals out of it and then they put it together into a vitamin that they sell to us so they can use more of the waste to sell back to us right so you talk about um carcinogens and things out there that
that can cause cancer and that's one of them right you're looking to get healthy and so you're starting to take these supplements only to find out that it's a garbage supplement it's synthetic your body doesn't even recognize it right yes maybe molecularly it might look the same right so ascorbic acid will take as an example vitamin c um number one you can make ascorbic acid in the lab right that makes it a synthetic molecularly it might look the same as your ascorbic acid from an orange right you could say hey look these are the same
a couple things that are not the same here number one most of that ascorbic acid is being made in labs in china i think last i looked it was 95 of all of the lab main ascorbic acid which is the vitamin c you're buying is made in china so we know that the regulation is there we know that the quality there is of question two it's not a whole foods supplement so you get more from a whole food vitamin c from acerella cherries or camu camu then you will from a lab-made ascorbic
acid why well there's all kinds of things whether that's the different enzymes different ingredients inside of that plant that make that ascorbic acid the vitamin c bioavailable it makes it so your body can actually recognize it as a food and knows how to use that ascorbic acid in the healthiest ways so the big misconception is that synthetic is the same as whole food no it's just cheaper garbage and made in the lab whole foods supplementation
is by far what you need to look for that it's made from whole foods um i can go down the rabbit hole of the difference of whole foods supplements if you like right now or we can kind of stop there and figure out the next question yeah um maybe we can go there next i just was reminded um i was at it at an event a while back and it was kind of like an event with you know leaders in the natural health field and there was a woman there i won't mention her name i don't want to cause any problems for her but um very very very well known if i mention
her name you would know who she is millions and millions of followers um has been in you know kind of the the natural health space for a long time many years and she has her own supplement company right and she had her supplements there she just had you know her bars and powders and supplements and all kinds of things that she was just giving away to everybody at this kind of private event uh and i was there and i was like oh yeah i'll check out her you know she's probably got some great products right um and so i went and looked and i started looking because first thing i do is always read the
ingredients of anything before i ever consider putting in mine or my family's bodies which i think is a first step for everyone right always read every ingredient i don't i don't look at the front of the label uh i mean i do i look for certain keywords but i don't depend on the front of the labor always read the back of the label right so i'm reading the ingredients and i'm like i'm like are you serious you know it's like filled with sugar all kinds of processed junk it had preservatives it had
all kinds of crap in it that like i would never put my body so i put that down i grabbed the next product i'm like okay hopefully this one's better look at this one same thing look at this one same thing and i'm just like here's this well-respected health person millions of people trust her buying her health products and to me they're garbage they're junk i would never put them in my body right and that's kind of um something i think that that really goes to what you said it's like there's so much garbage and junk out there and just
because there's a so-called health respect respected held professional promoting it does not mean that it is good for you listen there's a lot of doctors for hire i can go out there and pay a doctor and have them represent and say whatever i want them to say about my supplement unfortunately um and that that happens in this space a lot and it's unfortunate because as a consumer you don't know who to trust and who not to trust and this is where actually understanding the core values of the company
can matter taking a little time and doing some research and figuring out what are some of the things that they stand for what some of their history not just looking at the shiny thing that they're marketing or that they're trying to sell you um and that's that that's just one of the challenges another thing that you can look at too is you know i wanted to share kind of the difference between different whole food quality supplements one way in my opinion that you can tell i want to say the quality of the company but their integrity and using quality ingredients is if they use organic or
not i think that's a big deal i think having food that has not been sprayed with pesticides and herbicides and insecticides is important right i mean we know these things are carcinogens we know that they cause cancer and so if a company is willing to go out of the way to not use that cheaper alternative i feel a little bit better about that company um and i think that they're they're really trying to create a quality product and so that is true when it comes to supplements right it is
i'm telling you right now it is way more expensive for me me to make a supplement with an organic turmeric or with organic mushrooms or with organic fill in the blank it's probably four to five times the price but the difference is is if i'm taking a supplement that's already a high concentration of a certain nutrient or plant botanical whatever it is right then i want to make sure that i'm not getting high concentrations of pesticides herbicides insecticides right we all know about glyphosate in a roundup right you don't want that
on your supplements so you have a whole food supplement that's better than synthetic whole food organic is going to be even better than just a whole food supplement and so that's something to really take into consideration and it kind of comes back full circle in knowing the company knowing who the creators are do they is it worth it for them to go the extra mile to deliver an organic product because i think the quality definitely makes a difference there's people that can argue the nutrient density between organic and
non-organic there is no argument that pesticides insecticides and herbicides are good for you right versus having them outside of the diet right is not good for you so argue all you want all day long about the nutrient density between organic and not organic but you can never argue with me that one has a poison and one does not and which one is healthier yeah it's a good point i mean i said as i said you know when we're shopping we always look at the first the front of the label first and always read the ingredients i mean things we're looking for
on the front of the label is organic and i know that um you know a lot of people say well i can't afford organic or does it really matter because organic still allows some kind of you know synthetic types of of insecticides and different things on it and the reality is one even though you might pay a little bit more than for organic for the long term uh of your health the safety of your life and your health you have to ask yourself is it worth it
is my life my health you know my quality of life worth it and anybody who's sick or has been sick the answer is always yes right it's the thing is hopefully we don't have to wait until we get sick to answer that but is it worth it and it's really not at the end of the day for the consumer it's not that much more expensive right maybe twenty dollars and thirty dollars more for for a particular supplement but what you're getting out of that is significantly um more beneficial to your body right
absolutely and i think there's several ways that you can look at it right number one yes organic is more expensive to me that's why we try to buy organic as much as possible when you can afford it because that demand will drive the price down which is what we all need and what we know is gonna be healthier now it's the same thing right you may not be able to always eat organic so does that mean never eat organic of course not right you may not go to the gym seven days a week does that mean not going to the gym once or twice a week then like if i can't go seven days a week or all the time that i'm never
going to go that's of course not the attitude to have it's the same thing with organic you may not always be able to afford the organic products but when you can you should and you should get them even if that's just one meal a week right or one meal a day it also is the same when it comes to supplementation i for instance i think you're better off taking an expensive organic multivitamin every other day than taking a synthetic or a whole food one every single day so if you're synthetic
your whole food is a thirty dollars for a month supply then the organic version is sixty dollars for a month's supply i think you're better taking a half dose a day of the organic or every other day then you're taking of the synthetic or the regular whole food with pesticides every single day right you're going to get more out of the organic one on a on every other day basis than you will on the other ones on a daily now they're the same price right now this one month supply of organic multivitamin will last you two months the same as your centrum silver or your other whole food
multivitamin and i think when you start recognizing that difference then it puts things into perspective yes there's some fortunate people out there that can afford to take it daily if you're not one of them maybe you take it once every three days but heck like start taking something and make sure it's worth taking because if you buy synthetic you might as well put it in the toilet and just flush right you're absolutely getting nothing but if you're also especially if they're watching this summit you're looking at preventing cancer or treating cancer you don't want to put things in your body that are more carcinogenic
like a whole food supplement that you don't know is clean i i think you're better off not eating it quite frankly or not taking it if it's not organic or just buying an organic banana for 20 cents more right i agree 100 absolutely so that's what i think i just want to touch on when you say that supplements are just that they're there to supplement the diet right so it doesn't mean i get to eat mcdonald's every day and i just take a good organic multivitamin and i'm great right no it's about having good life
choices unfortunately our soil now is so depleted of nutrients and minerals that from all the over farming that even organically grown grown fruits and vegetables don't have the nutrient density that they did 30 years 40 years 50 years ago so supplementation becomes necessary it's not there to allow you to just eat whatever you want to eat junk it's there to supplement your diet for what you're not able to get through the whole foods that you're eating yeah i'm glad you mentioned that because it's you know you've got to have your
foundation your food uh your your diet should be your foundation and when you cook at home like we do 80 90 of the time and we do shop you know 90 to 99 organic it's way cheaper to cook at home and make organic meals with fresh plant-based foods right your vegetables your fruits you know your quinoa all these things that they're actually a lot cheaper when you're cooking them at home and they go a lot longer and that should be the foundation but then the supplementation that's why we
supplement right is to add that additional nutritional profile that we may not be getting from our food into our bodies just to help us um you know uh benefit greater from it so what are some of the other things that uh people need to be aware of when when you know considering supplements i think one of the other things to look at is the way research data is manipulated in order to make claims
think of an example here so ashwagandha right ashwagandha it's great herb it's great for stress great for recovery things like that it's an adaptogen there's a lot of studies out there on how good ashwagandha is the challenge is is for these studies they're usually using a high quality probably even organic ashwagandha and so there's these studies that show how good ashwagandha is for you but then you have this company over here that sources it from china and is getting it for
a couple dollars a kilo and it is garbage it's grown uh in soil that has no nutrients anyway right it's mass produced and then they're using these research studies that make all these claims for ashwagandha but then they sell you an ashwagandha that doesn't have near the nutrient makeup that was used in the study so the thing to understand here is yes ashwagandha is amazing but what's the quality of the ashwagandha in that supplement that you're using um an example is uh there's a patented
ashwagandha organic called ksm66 there's all sorts of studies behind that using that ashwagandha that way you know if you're buying that kind of ashwagandha you're getting the results you're getting the same quality that was used in that study this is why i think it goes back kind of to the organic conversation things like that just buying organic it's likely going to be a much higher quality ingredient to begin with you're not always going to know not everybody's always going to use a patented ingredient or different things like that
but just understand that i think in life in most things and supplements are no different you get what you pay for so if there's a bottle of ashwagandha and it's on amazon and it's selling for 17.99 that sounds phenomenal there's another bottle of ashwagandha that's 39.99 you're likely getting three times the quality ashwagandha out of that 39 supplement this isn't me sitting here trying to sell you to buy more expensive supplements i just want you to understand it it's not apples to apples you can't just scroll amazon and look
for the best price and think that you're getting the same ingredient because it may not be organic it may not be as dense it could be straight out of china for dirt cheap my point is you got to do a little bit of research you got to figure out the company that you're buying from it's worth it to shoot their customer support and email and say hey where does this ingredient come from where do you get your ashwagandha from where are these things coming from if they don't want to answer you don't buy from them right because somebody that's proud of what they create is not going to have any issues sharing hey this is where we get it from here's
what it is let me tell you more information about it here's uh you know the the purchase orders and the quality tests it's another thing too and and again this isn't a pitch for us but we want all of ours to do third party testing for heavy metals pesticides insecticides um all kinds of third-party tests for cleanliness ask these companies are you third-party testing your product right can you show me the results of that i want to see how much heavy metals in it how many pesticides are in it do you test for glyphosate right we spend money and we test specifically
for glyphosate because listen i'm just trusting the person i'm buying the ingredient from right that it's it's what they say it is what they put on the label but i'm ingesting all of these things too so i want to have these tested before i put them in my body why wouldn't another supplement creator do the same thing and then share those results with their audience so it's not as easy i know we all love the quick fix let me just hurry and buy and click it and it'll be here tomorrow with amazon prime and all that fun of getting it overnight consider that it's worth it to take a little bit
of time and do a little bit more research otherwise you're just going to throw your money away you're not going to get the results you're looking for yeah i love that you just shared that i think it's super important i think it's worth saying as well that um and this isn't any kind of um you know dosage advice or anything like that but you know when you are sick typically you know an herbalist might prescribe you more therapeutic doses or an integrative doctor or a naturopathic doctor will say
look here's here's maintenance dosages which is about what most people are getting today in supplements right and here's therapeutic doses this is what your body actually needs to have a fighting chance for itself to heal and when you're looking at supplements i know like um i have this green food supplement right now um and then i bought another green food supplement so i'm trying i'm trying new things all the time different and looking at all the different factors that you're talking about right the the is it organic where is it sourced you know the quality of the ingredients
all these different things and and one um these two different packages i just want to share this story because i think it's really important um one package uh they both have the exact same quantity right they both have whatever it was 600 grams or whatever the amount is my 600 might be a lot i don't know you know whatever the amount is but then you look at the servings this one had 12 servings and this one had 30 servings right and so and then you look at the serving
size and you look at the quantity of the ingredients in that serving and you recognize why this one is significantly more expensive and this one is way cheaper is the one that was a lot more expensive and has much less servings well they're making sure your body is actually getting a higher therapeutic dose they're making sure they're saying look if you just take this tiny dose over here you may get some benefit but realistically you're not getting a lot of benefit but you think you're getting
all this benefit because you know oh i got this for 25 dollars it's super cheap i got 30 servings oh this one's way more expensive there's only 10 servings 12 servings but you're getting 30 grams per serving instead of 5 grams over here so the end result of what you're getting is significantly more nutrition in your body and actually when i did the price comparison for how many grams of the of the ingredients you're getting in your body compared to this one this one's actually cheaper
but you don't see that on the front end because all you see on the front end is the price right oh whole food green supplement twenty dollars you know whole food green salmon seventy five dollars what the heck okay i'm gonna buy the 20 one so anyway i think it's worth saying you know looking at how much of the quantity of the ingredients you're actually getting into your body as well is pretty important yeah there's so many different things that go into it and you're 100 right and what's interesting is i wanted to talk kind of about the price because
you spoke about price and just looking through there some of the dirty secrets i've learned being in this space right is is we make a product called turmeric 3d and i was priced and i was looking for manufacturers and i was shopping around who who could make who could help us save a little bit of money on this and most manufacturers came back and said if you don't use organic if you don't ferment which i'll talk about fermentation in a second if you don't ferment it if you don't add these other things like the ginger and the ksm66 ashwagandha
i can make that for you for 2.50 cents bottled and that means i could sell it on amazon for 39.95 all day long and make 10 to 12 times my return on that investment um unfortunately i don't have the luxury of those kinds of numbers because i'm just not going to sell crap but our turmeric 3d cost us over ten dollars a bottle to make and bottle up and i sell it for 49.95 yes it's about uh four to five times markup um the difference being is i can't sell if i were to sell it at 10 times markup
it'd be a hundred plus dollar supplement but you are getting something that is literally three or four or five times better than that cheaper one so it might be a little bit cheaper because i nobody's ever going to buy it at 100 plus i also don't need 10 times markup to survive as a business right i only need enough so we can stay in business next month and stay in business next year um i don't need to make so much that we're all driving lambos and and destroying the planet even more but i say all that to say like you see a little you pay a little bit more
you're probably getting a lot more in the long run um and i think it's like that a lot of times in life with everything this isn't just supplements this is this is in general you pay save a little bit of money be smart buy the one that's a little bit nicer it's going to last longer it's going to be healthier for you you're just going to get what you pay for it and right now with so many things made out of china and other places we all want to look for that cheap price we're all on a budget i get it i'm just telling you it's gonna pay off tremendously with your health if you don't skimp on that kind of stuff
beautiful so if you were to sum it up in three or five key points people should really be watching out for when they're buying supplements what would those key points be never take uh synthetic supplements ever i don't think they're ever going to do any benefit for you save your money spend it on something else so definitely take a whole food supplement and if you can have it be whole food organic i think that that whole food organic ingredient um just a little side note okay the capsules in order for something to be
usda certified organic it has to be more than 95 percent organic the capsules themselves while they're vegetable caps are not certified organic and they make up seven percent of the product so ours is 93 organic on most of our products but they can't carry the usda seal because the capsule itself makes up seven percent so it's not just let me look and see is it a usda certified or not or does it say made with organic turn around and read the label and check every single ingredient does it
say organic turmeric does it say organic mushrooms organic ashwagandha make sure it lists organic for every single one of those ingredients some ingredients out there you can't get organic it's just not they just don't certify them yet but you should check and make sure that as much of the ingredients in that product are organic um so that's the number one thing to look for the second thing is don't believe the hype right the the a lot of these companies making these 10 and 12x returns have ridiculous amount of money
to spend on marketing if it seems too good to be true um it probably is do a little bit of research find out where are they sourcing their ingredients find out who it is that's behind that company do they have integrity do they not what's their history what's their story there are really good supplement companies out there um i know a lot of the owners of most of them there's good ones out there and do the research and go find them um the third thing the third thing
supplements are just supplements right they're not going to they don't fill the void of of a non-clean diet a non-clean lifestyle right so get out and move your body right get outside of your house and breathe fresh air number one best thing you can do for your health all day long and twice on sunday move your body getting big deep fresh breaths the second thing is what are you feeding your body are you giving it good whole foods less
processed foods organic whenever possible if you eat meat um then are you getting meat that is not factory farmed that it's pasture raised it's grass-fed it's free range things like that so supplements are good and supplements can really help your health and and like you talked about between a maintenance dose and therapeutic dose there's some people out there that would do really good taking a whole lot of enzymes right and especially loading up that body and really getting that
storage built back up again but it's going to be short-lived if you're not doing the other stuff if you're not moving your body if you're not eating right if you're not good in a mental mentally well meaning you're not uh in front of your screen all day you're not watching tv all day you're actually reading a book you're stimulating yourself in one way or another you're still learning so like this is a whole holistic approach you're not going to go out and spend 60 on any bottle that i sell start taking two a day and in a month all of a sudden be
magically better in all ways shapes and forms you've got to make this a whole integrative approach across every area of your life beautiful yeah it was a really good summation and i'm glad you keep coming back to that foundation because that's critical um you know i can say that um yours is one of the companies that i feel is doing uh all of these things that you talked about right which is why i use your supplements myself because i look for all these things myself and i get contacted by
supplement companies and you know skin care companies and all kinds of companies all day long wanting me to use their products and try them and sell them and all that and most of them i can tell you i turn down and say no to um if i don't use it myself i will not share it with anybody else and yours is one of the products that that i do use myself so you know thank you for really staying committed to quality to effectiveness to organic to making sure that good quality ingredients are getting out to the world even if it means
you know reducing profit margin but still as you said being able to stay in business so you can keep helping people you know thank you for doing that for being committed to that we need more people like yourself out there doing it so you know thanks so much jonathan appreciate your time appreciate you for all the the good work that you do and thanks for being here to share with our audience absolutely thanks for having me thank you for what you do i mean when i first started kind of my journey to health it was all about um the anti-cancer movement right and ridding this from our world and
being healthy and healing and all of that and so you've been doing this way before i even got in uh to this space and so um i want to thank you for your continued commitment year after year after year and doing these summits these summits like what you're doing is the best way to get the most up-to-date information right i know i was executive producer of documentaries and and those are all great but they become outdated a year or two later and so with you doing summits where you're bringing back all the experts every year it's the only way to get the
most up-to-date information and i love it i love that you're doing it i love your message i love um yeah man i just love i get a little emotion about it i love what you stand for and so i'm really happy that you asked me to be to be in the series so i appreciate that absolutely brother my honor i really appreciate that again thank you so much you know jonathan did a great job sharing with us exactly what to watch out for when choosing supplements what a profound wealth of knowledge we all need to know to help us pick the best supplements for our health
the next interview coming up that you don't want to miss is dr rasheed bhutar about how to stop feeding cancer in this interview we cover what is actually feeding your cancer and how to stop it what is advanced medicine and how it helps when dealing with cancer the number one proven cause of cancer we all need to understand and the truth about genetics and what we can do to overcome genetic determinism this is an empowering interview so please make sure to
listen closely additionally let us know in the comments below what you've been inspired by so far what has moved you or helped you see things in a new light we love to hear from you and see how this empowering information is supporting you on your own healing journey and without further ado let's jump right into my interview with dr bhutar dr batar graduated from washington university with a double major in biology and theology and went on to attend medical school at
the university of osteopathic medicine and health sciences college of medicine and surgery he trained in general surgery and emergency medicine and served as brigade surgeon and director of emergency medicine while serving in the u.s army dr guitar is board certified in clinical medal toxicology preventive medicine is board eligible in emergency medicine and has achieved fellowship status in three separate medical societies he serves as the medical director for the centers for advanced medicine with clinics in california and north carolina dr batara's patients from
93 countries is an international best-selling author and a world acclaimed speaker with an international reputation in effectively treating cancer and autism dr batard thank you so much for being here thank you my friend thank you nathan for asking me so you've had so many success stories and great case studies over the years i've got to hear um some of them from you directly uh can you share a couple of case studies that kind of stick out for you from some patients that you've had some great success with using you know a holistic
or an integrative approach for treating cancer well first nathan i i want to specify that i don't use a holistic approach or integrated approach i use a physiologically oriented approach and that's why i call it advanced medicine because to me there is like when you walk there's a way to walk now people can say well there's different approaches to how you walk and i i don't know that agree with that there's only one way and that is you walk the way that you were designed
to walk right you can walk other ways but it's going to be difficult you can walk sideways you can do those those you know crossing over leg exercises that we did in football practice you know in college and high school there's many different ways i guess you can ambulate but the point is when you walk you just walk and so what i'm doing is i'm using the principles of physiology to treat patients understanding what the issue is and that's a very important part right you got to know what the first problem is and people said we don't know what causes cancer but we do know what causes cancer and you know we can talk about that and then the second thing is that the approach is fundamentally sound
and follows physiological principles right so if you are for example if you are thirsty people can say well you can quench your thirst many different ways you can take an iv infusion or you can do uh colon hydrotherapy you can stand in the shower and soak in all that water to me it's like pick up a glass of water and drink that's that's our approach it's it's that simple you know you're dehydrated drink water and so it might sound oversimplified and some people say well
that's your opinion dr but it's not my opinion it's based on physiology there's many things that i do in my clinic that if you'd asked me 20 years ago even 10 years ago some some of the things even five years ago i would have said no you know because it was my opinion but ours is completely based upon what we are observing to work and when we see it observe we we observe it to work then we test the hypothesis and we expand it out and if it's working universally we apply to all the patients so it's a very specific observational
evidence like when they say evidence-based i'm not talking about the double-blind placebo control crossover multi-center trial heaven space i mean truly based upon the evidence that presents in front of us and you know a lot of it's very basic stuff some of it's a little bit more intricate but that's really what the approach is right now you asked me to talk about a couple of case studies so the two that came to mind and there's so many but came to mind was one was a guy who's become a very good friend of mine he's he was a professional golfer and his first name is chris
actually when he was when his story came out actually ty and charlene ended up using and interviewed him and so his first name is a professional golfer 29 years old got stage four melanoma and he came to us first he'd gone to cleveland clinic and cleveland clinic gave him six months left to live he didn't like that answer so he went to mayo clinic and mayo clinic said yes we we can give you more than that we can give you up to a year but we have to amputate your leg and he
didn't like that answer so he came to the clinic and he went through five rounds of treatment which is in each round is about four weeks and with four to six weeks in between he went through five rounds of treatment and so like like i said cleveland gave him six months clinton clinic and mayo gave him a year and a year and uh let's see he's 41 now so that was 12 years ago wow and he was actually at the last advanced medicine conference so i think he's going to be at this next one too so people can meet him firsthand
uh another example is um in 2018 my keynote that i gave for or 2000 uh 2017 sorry my keynote that i gave for the truth about cancer series i usually open my lectures with a video because they say you know if a picture is worth a thousand words in a video is worth a million and that particular conference right as i walked on stage i decided i was going to show the video and i talked about
a story and i showed the screenshot so there is a young man who was 12 years old with osteosarcoma and his leg had been amputated before they came to us and they told the parents that we to save his life we need to take his leg and pulse operatively when they did their pet scan this is after they took his leg they found that the sarcoma had already metastasized to his lungs and so they gave him six months to
live and so what i showed at like at the conference as i started speaking i showed a facebook post and the story is an interesting story it's a powerful story because i used to the parents would you know walk around always like depressed and i said look you guys need to stop doing that you need to start focusing on what the intention is that you want and your parents were like i said give him things to like steak think of a mountain climber right there's a climbing the mountain there driving that stake into the wall and
then they pull themselves up and they drive the next stick i said you got to give him stakes anchor them how do we do that dr they're crying and i'm like okay i'll show you how. so i i started this relationship with this kid where i would just bust on him all the time like you know i would ask him about the car and car he's going to get and he was like 12 years old and he's like i don't know i'm only 12. and one of the things that that i said to him i said who are you going to take to prom and he's like prom that's when i'm a senior because i'm i'm only 12. i'm only in eighth grade
and i was like dude you're so ugly you need to start looking for a date now so that you have somebody right okay so that was one of the things and you know people laughed about it so here i get a post now this is this is like 20 some years later okay and i'm showing the poster that i've just gotten it so the thing is dr char my name is ryan blah blah blah um i don't know if you remember me but i was uh i came to your clinic and because of you i'm alive today he's just going through all this stuff you know whatever i'm reading the thing straight off and he talks about he goes in case
you're having a hard time remembering me i'm the one with one leg i used to play basketball with my with my dad et cetera et cetera and it gets to the end he goes and if you still don't remember me this might help you i'm probably the best-looking person you ever treated he remembered that steak that i drove in because the whole thing was whether you make it funny or you make whatever it is it's a steak that goes in and it penetrates their brain and to that point 20 years later he's still thinking okay you know i'm the best looking kid you ever treated and you and i were laughing but to him
that was that anchor whether he realized or not that was the anchor that he drove in there so those are the two examples and he's i think he's 31 or 32 last time i heard he was uh he wanted to talk to me about his grandmother cancer his uncle had cancer came to me he's got a newborn child and so you know that's 20 some years later it's it's a good feeling so yeah i mean i know you have so many people that you've helped over the years and and i know one of the things that you really help people with is getting
their mindset right i mean and it's such an important part of overcoming any health challenge chronic health challenge cancer or otherwise right if you already have this and we can talk more about it in a little bit um you know because i'd love to hear your thoughts on it further but you know if you have this defeatism already in your mind i'm dead i'm done i can't beat this it's over certainly the body will follow i mean bruce lipton he's speaking at your upcoming conference advanced medicine conference both a colleague and a friend of both of
ours we know the biology of belief we know epigenetics we know how the you know your mind literally can cause disease or help heal disease in your body just by what you think and feel right i mean so i know you help patients critically with that but you also have a full multi-pronged approach maybe you can share about that in a little bit as well but i want to go back to something you said early on you said there's a lot of doctors and a lot of people who say oh we don't know what causes cancer and you said we do know what causes cancer and we do right we i mean the evidence is so clear if you look
at the evidence it is very clear actually what causes cancer and so maybe you can start there a little bit what is it that is we know is directly feeding cancer cell proliferation what is it that actually feeding cancer in our bodies today what are those core causes so if you want to look at what's been published there's a annual cancer report that goes out to the president and the 2010 annual presidential cancer report i don't know what's that actually every year
is every 10 years i think it's every year they have an addendum that comes out every year but the 2010 version that i have i don't know i didn't look at the 2020 version but the 2010 version i have that on our website anybody can download it it's about 240 some pages long and it can be summarized in one cent this is 240 some page and that is that cancer is an environmental issue all right now when we say it's an environmental issue we're not talking about the environment just the environment that you're in meaning what you're breathing in
and what you're bathing in and what you're eating but we're also talking about the internal environment your physiology right so it's an altered physiological environment uh altered uh extraneous environment and this comes back to as you mentioned dr lipton it's that signal right it's the signal that causes the gene to express in a certain way and it's important for people to understand that when you start talking about genetics or this is a genetic cause this is a genetic cause guys get over yourself with that thought
process because that is just idiocy there's 20 000 genes out there there's over 140 000 different proteins out there okay and if you start looking at the the sign that says that a gene defines a protein then how can you have 140 000 proteins being defined by 20 000 genes right because if a gene defines a protein then what happened to the other 120 000 proteins that are left over it's because a gene will cause the expression of various proteins based upon the signal that it
receives from its environment internal environment external environment whatever you want to call it part and parcel of the whole thing it's their environment so that gene can express one version versus another version versus another version and what you said right before i started answering this question nathan when you said about the belief aspect you know that's a signal to the gene it's no different than any other signal it's no different than the toxin that you're putting into your body or the organic food that you're putting
into your body or the contaminated air you're breathing in or the clean air that you're breathing that's signal and between you and me you know let's just pretend like nobody else is listening to us that signal is the most paramount component it is the basis of everything because here's the thing why do i have such a good success rate in cancer well i believe that a lot of it has to do with the belief that the patient has in my ability now we're doing a lot of good things but you know what
i i know that there are people that haven't come to us that have gotten success and i personally believe that it is the belief that they have in me because i've i've tried to think about it like why is it that this person with multi-stage i mean multi-organ system failure the kidneys are failing the liver is feeling they're you know everything is they're ashen colored they're literally you know a foot away from their grave they've got metastatic disease in every like i'll give you a case example of a person this
was an oncological nurse meaning she for those who don't know what oncological means this is a nurse that worked in the field of cancer for 40 some years she had breast cancer she went through chemo she went through radiation they gave her a clean bill of health and she thought she was fine five years later they find something suspicious on a chest x-ray and they're not sure what's going on so they repeat it actually no sorry it was a neck x-ray because she had a neck problem but in the part of it they saw something suspicious in the apicity of the lungs
so they did a workup and they find that a cancer has not just come back to the breast but it's metastasized to her brain her scalp her spine her lungs her liver and her spleen all right and they said this is this is the category they told that there was nothing left for them there was nothing more to do they gave her three months to live and this is in medicine we call this refractory to treatment meaning that they've done everything else already she'd already had so many rounds of chemo radiation and they just pawned her up she was
already i think she was uh 70 at the time and they said there's nothing more that we can do and she was in the field of medicine so she comes to us and she lived for the next 13 years she died at 83. okay wow i've got her on video i've got her own video she's actually on our um the untold truth about cancer and you can you anybody can watch your videos we've got her actually when she first came to us and she's talking about you she could see that great fashion
color in her face and this is like a couple months into treatment and she looks that way and then you see her a year later then you see her three years later then you see her five years later and she's saying things like you know i didn't expect to live this long so i'm doing things like when i just renewed my password which i never thought i'd have to do again and i'm i'm building on an addition to my house and i'm renovating my house and those type of things so you know you can hear and then you see her like uh 10 years later a couple years before she transitioned but um and she didn't continue doing the things that she needed to there was there were some
other emotional things that were going on but any i mean for a person to live 12 years after having end stage multi-organ system failure metastatic disease everywhere refractive treatment so that was one of the more challenging cases but the point being coming back to you know what causes cancer is we know it's that environmental aspect right and that belief as i said is a very key component whatever you henry ford said whatever you believe that you can do or you can't do you're right
right and so it doesn't matter whether you say yes i can do that no i can't you're right either way if you think you can do it you're going to do it right and you don't think you can do it you're not going to do it so there was a book that was written many years ago over 100 years ago by paul allen as a man thinketh and the summary is that the body is a slave to the mind and so if you have a problem with your body you want to fix it you must first fix the mind and that's really what it comes down to that that's the essence of it so what beats cancer that question that you asked me that's a long drawn-out precursor to tell you what feeds cancer
the first thing is what we're putting in here that's literally feeding cancer or the thought process that feeds cancer now you want to start talking about physiologically cancer is an anaerobic obligate anaerobic metabolizer meaning that it loves an oxygen free environment cancer is an obligate glucose metabolizer it loves a sugar environment there's many it's it's a it's a it's a type of a situation think of a fish right what does a fish need it needs water if it takes the fish out of the
water it's not going to survive that's kind of like my my thought process right my strategy people don't know what is your strategy doctor trying to expect me to give them this like really elaborate strategy i'm like okay think of cancer as a fish i'm going to take the fish out of the water if i can take the fish out of the water we can't survive it's the same thing we want to do that with cancer we want to create an environment in which cancer can't survive so we want to increase oxygenation in the system we want to decrease the amount of sugar because sugar feeds the cancer so it's that type of a philosophy so i didn't know what you meant when you
said what feeds cancer like is it that you know i think last time we talked a lot about spirituality and i think that's a very you know you probably have already picked up that that's the basis the more you do this the more you realize it's like the monkey scratching his head you know the more i read the more i realize i don't know type of thing but the more i've treated patients and we've been doing this now for well over a quarter of a century you know my practice i've been a doctor of 30 years and the practices was started in 1996 so you know we're 25 years out now in the private practice but the essence
of it all comes from what are we feeding into our mind what is our belief system and when we go beyond that to the physiology of it it's it's making sure that the body is getting what it needs and we're taking out what it doesn't so there's a there's a fundamental component that on the cell in the cell where the cancer first starts and cancer by the way is there all the time you know that you know i'm pretty sure your all your listeners know that it's it's our immune system is checking constantly and making sure it's creating a shield if you will of
preventing the cancer from becoming rampant okay it's at the certain point when the immune system can't keep up with the normal this array in the cells or the the dysfunction of those dysfunctional cells that's when cancer becomes a cancer but when when it's picked up on a pet scan or a cat scan or mri it didn't start last week or last month it started you know year two years five years depending on the type of cancer so it's like it's reminding the analysis just came to me
um which i think is perfect i haven't thought of this before but i think it helps explain to people right it's like um if you've ever played tetris right the the your immune system is like um putting the you know all the pieces into place and the timing is fine and it's like okay it's doing its job no problem and when the immune system gets bogged down or it's not functioning properly through toxins through you know negative belief systems through poor environment through all the different causes that are leading to you know the immune system dysfunctioning you know fear we
know emotions literally inhibit the immune system negative emotions fear stress doubt worry anger all these things literally anything that turns down the immune system and then that tetris goes the cancer goes and it all just you can't keep up with it the immune system can no longer keep up with the cancer and that's when the cancer grows out of control right actually that's a beautiful analogy but i'm going to change it slightly so you know there's tetris it's every time you get the block day it drops it drops that's immediate yes there we go as soon as it like gets
locked up and starts building up the immune system can't handle it and then think of that as a cancer the build up of those blocks because it can't block you know can't because there's a gap down there and it will not go down that's what cancer is growing literally like that trend says until the game's over that's really that was a great analogy though i just kind of changed it slightly because i know thank you for finishing it because i clearly haven't played tetris in like 15 or 20 years but you weren't very good analogy was right i just was missing a couple pieces there so so i'm glad you brought up one
the number one cause we need to be you know what's feeding cancer's environment right it's both environment that is causing cancer cell growth cancer cell proliferation but it's also environment that is removing cancer cells from our body right and so you already talked about you know i i totally agree with you that the mindset the emotions uh you know your spiritual connection spiritual beliefs you know relationships everything really directly involved with mind emotions spirit is i would say is 80 right i used to
i i 15 years ago i would have said it's 100 a few years later i would have said it's 20 and then later is like like you said the more you know the less you realize you know now i'm really at the point where i really think that is 80 and 20 is everything else it's the diet it's the nutrition it's the the the treatment you know the the different technologies the supplements all of that all that stuff's important but without the mindset and the emotions and the you know all the aspects that actually
regulate your immune system and the environment that the cells live in without that you know you can take all the supplements in the world in many cases you know they're not going to do the job yeah it's just going to be temporary you're going to have to deal with the relapse and the cancer coming back unless you take care of it at source and you know it's interesting that when you were talking about the environment you know let's let's talk about the cell from a physiological level for a second there's one of two things that's going on so that cell that where the immune system is constantly monitoring all the cells in the body and
when a cell becomes disrupted then the immune system takes care of it so what exactly is causing this the disruption so when you've got that cell it's one of the like if you were able to trace back anybody's cancer whatever kind of cancer the first cell that created the first cell that became