MEPs fighting for freedom in the EU. Defending peoples' rights against Mandatory Digital Certificate

MEPs fighting for freedom in the EU. Defending peoples' rights against Mandatory Digital Certificate

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hello everybody thank you so much for joining us today again we have a new press conference the third one in our row i would say in the past month where we are presenting to the european citizens and to the world what is going on in the european parliament in regards to the violation of basic human rights all across europe the title of this press conference is fighting from freedom defending people's rights against
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mandatory digi digital certificate you've seen in the previous conferences we have colleagues from different groups that join us some of them are today some of them are home today because they are able to vote again from home but we have along with us a new colleague from the greens group on my left and to my right to previous colleagues that you already know from croatia so before further ado i would like to introduce my new colleague success
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yaki lunas from lithuania he's part of the greens and after plenty of research he has a lot of information that he would like to share with us thank you christian and hello everyone uh i've been researching what i call covet puzzle since may of uh last year 2020. there are a number of aspects origin of the virus related to that dangerous experiments on pathogens
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called gain of function experiments and other areas but one specific area which i i would think i'm more qualified than in other areas is statistics data we all know how important is reliable and comparable across member states data uh to make up policy decisions especially such a difficult and complex policy decisions with restriction of freedoms of movements et cetera et cetera so three institutions responsible for a statistical uh information in european union and a
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member of econ which is responsible for the parliamentary scrutiny of our statistical systems that's eurostat the statistical governance advisory body and also ecdc european center for disease prevention and control i talked as a member of econ to all of them all of them three of them confirmed that the only reliable and comparable data related to covet is excess mortality now based on the database of euromoma which is a danish data system uh excess mortality is
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normal since the end of uh this year uh end of february sorry so there is no basis based on the on this uh data no pandemic anymore there are fluctuations there are notification rates but case notification rates are not uh exact data is not relevant enough for for these decisions so uh especially for children there is no mortality excess mortality never during this pandemic so when the decisions are
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made to introduce covet passes in lithuania next month the covet pass will be introduced mandatory for 12 year olds there is no ground for that at all so i'm worried that data is manipulated i'm uh i have degree in in business i worked in insurance and with actuaries with mathematicians i have degree in psychology too which is uh works with how people think uh how they make decisions so the manipulation of data
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witching or unwitting manipulation data is a very very strong case here during the covet so i urge the european uh parliament european commission and member states to look at the recent recommendation of ecdc european center for disease control and prevention uh dated 18th of october which is called the covet 19 surveillance guidance transition from covet 19 emergency surveillance to routine surveillance of
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respiratory pathogens for me the most important part is in page number four where they recommend to define case of covert 19 as follows clinical criteria acute respiratory infection or influenza like illness i think that's for doctors to diagnose this illness second criteria laboratory criteria detection of sarskoff ii nucleate acid in a clinical specimen that's pcr tests and some other tests and the most
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important part confirmed covet case any person meeting clinical criteria and and the what end is in capital letters laboratory criteria so we have to use this recent recommendation in our decisions in our strategies uh for for for covet certificates and for other decisions in order to uh understand that we don't have such an acute pandemic as we had a year ago or so thank you very much i
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think we'll uh we'll research further and share with you more information there's for freedom and liberties you know ivan sinchich and mislav kolakoshet uh mr kolakuchi is a former judge he did a a lot of research on the on the legislation i would say behind everything that is happening but now my colleague ivan has plenty of things to share with us especially what is happening
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in croatia ivan thank you very much mr terge hello to everybody as said previously this is our third press conference i would like to start with what happened in croatia a few weeks ago digital certificates were made mandatory in croatian public sector this caused almost instant opposition and people were organizing more and more and on the 20th of november which is last saturday we had a
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historic rally on the central square of our capital zagreb it was indeed the largest gathering of political nature in modern creation history a clear message was sent to croatian government which is led by very bad policies and very bad science the people were there to say no to digital green certificate or coveted potradis we say in croatian they were there to say no to
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discrimination and segregation no to media censorship and no to oppression of different scientific and medical opinion and they were of course there to say yes to good science and preservation of fundamental human rights and constitutional rights croatian government i will give you an example why are people so furious the croatian government still claims that the unvaccinated people spread
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virus 20 times more than vaccinated which is scientifically untrue research shows it is almost the same the difference between vaccinated and unvaccinated is insignificant the recent research published in landsat magazine confirms that and many governments have started to re-examine to re-evaluate their policies based on these scientific research but the croatian government has not they still have their the same narrative which is illogical
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unscientific and with that digital grain certificate remains a license to spread and in fact protests are of course very good they're very beautiful this is a festival of democracy they show what is the popular opinion but in the long term in order to make things right they may not be enough we have to make all around europe groups and movements
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peoples of europe need to organize more and more and go to the next level from individuals there must be organized groups specialized groups like doctors and lawyers politicians journalists etc and from these groups movements must be made and then finally europe movement on a european level should be made we have to make this political politicians many of them do not fear protests we have seen
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protesting from italy and france to croatia to to many other countries but many politicians are not convinced yet to change their illogical policies this is why we have to hit them where it hurts we have to make this political dgcc must be made political and we want to emphasize that so that citizens all around europe understand it
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dgc started in this building or in brussels building and also this is where it has to be stopped so i call upon all the citizens to stand together thank you thank you the article 1 of treaty of the european union states the following this treaty marks a new stage in the process of creating an even closer union among the peoples of europe
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in which decisions are taken as openly as possible and as closely as pos as closely as possible to the citizens in the previous press conference we show to the world how the contracts signed between the european union and in particular by ursula from the lion with these vaccination companies were released to the public and to us as members of the european parliament 20 30 40
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of these contracts are blacked out right now nobody in europe and even us as elected by the people for the people do not know what these contracts exactly contain what are the clauses in this contract what provisions were agreed by the commission and on behalf of the state by the commission so what we've seen happening with this
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pandemic clearly violates article 1 of treaty of the european union this is what makes the difference between a tyranny and democracy when you know everything about what your government does that's democracy when the government knows everything about you that is tyranny now when these contracts that are worth billions and billions of euros we don't even know the exact figures
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are not fully disclosed to us to you as journalists and to the european citizens that's a problem the second issue as the article says that all these decisions should be taken as closely as possible to the citizens how this provision was also violated in this case in the month of april 2021 reindeers didier the commissioner on justice
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came in the plenary of the parliament and he said and i quote the proposal put forward by the commission is firmly built on two core values non-discrimination and data protection clearly the regulation imposing the green certificate is mentioning 15 times the word non-discrimination that's what the text says that's what we were told in the parlor
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in the plenary none of us voted for it for many reasons but the majority of the members of the parliament believed trusted what this commissioner said in april and look where we are right now in the month of november 2021 people cannot go to work in europe if they don't have a green certificate and in some countries if they are not vaccinated even against their will
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people cannot enter stores if they don't have a green certificate people cannot travel not between countries but even using the local transportation if they don't have a green certificate in our case we were not allowed to enter the european parliament if we don't have a green certificate now we are holding our ground in my case i'm not obeying the decision of the president of the parliament
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who is conditioning to exercise my mandate receive from the people by anything else than proof that i'm a member elected of this parliament and that's it this is what the treaty of the europe of the european union says the problem is if they are trying to blackmail us as elected by the people for the people now what is happening with the other citizens of europe we heard their voices we received thousands and thousands of emails and i have to tell you guys i try to
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reply to us and we try to reply as to as many as possible it's impossible that's how many people are crying out loud for someone in this house for someone in the commission to listen to them this is not the europe that they want to live in where their life is conditioned by a certificate that is not certifying anything because someone who's vaccinated can get infected and can spread the infection and someone who's tested can be infected after the person leaves
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the the place of testing so what kind of europe do we want a kind of europe where the rights and liberties of every european citizen is respected or a tyrannical europe as the ussr was before where people do not have or are not acknowledged to have basic fundamental rights but all these rights are seen by an unelected bureaucracy as privileges granted by the government
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and i want to read something mention in this regulation that it's imposing the green certificate in europe in paragraph 62 of this regulation it stated and i quote this regulation respects the fundamental rights and observes the principles recognizing particularly by the charter of fundamental rights of the european union later on it sat in the same paragraph and i quote member states are to comply with the
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charter when implementing this regulation the question is is the commission and the member states complying with what was mentioned here because i looked in the charter and i quote from article 3 of the charter of fundamental rights of the european union which states the following rise to the integrity of a person
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everyone has the right to respect for his or her physical or mental integrity paragraph 2 of article 3 says in the fields of medicine and biology the following must be respected in particular the free and informed consent of the person concerned now is this happening right now in europe or not because what we've seen happening in austria for example people will not be able to exercise
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basic fundamental rights unless they are vaccinated against their will this is what is happening in more and more countries so from what we were told by commissioner reinders did the air in the plenary of the parliament and many of our colleagues believed it that it was for the good of the people look where we are right now they are not acknowledging the side effects as my colleague said they are not acknowledging the basic fundamental rights of the people
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and we live right now slowly but surely we are transitioning we are witnessing the transition of the european union from a democracy to tyranny many of us actually all of us he's from lithuania he was under ussr they are from former yugoslavia i'm from romania form a communist country we all lived in tyranny we know what that is that's the reason why we are speaking up because we don't want
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the citizens of europe to leave the kind of tyranny that unfortunately we all had to go through as i said this regulation is mentioning 15 times that this regulation should not be used to discriminate and it should not be used to obligate anybody to get vaccinated well i just want to show you three pictures on how this regulation is applied right now in romania kaufland
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it's one of those bigger stores in europe look what they've done in romania they divided their stores for vaccinated and for unvaccinated people if you are vaccinated you're allowed to enter this gate if you are not vaccinated you enter the other gate there are walls in these stores that are separating the shoppers from vaccinated to unvaccinated
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guys is this the type of europe the kind of europe that we want to be living in i don't believe so so we are here today as we mentioned to before for liberty to fight for democracy and restore fundamental rights in the european union thank you now for those in the media that are here if you guys have any questions sure if you can mention your name and
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media outlet please uh thank you my name is anna vandensky i'm from the europe europe diplomatic magazine i have two questions for you and for mr jacques lunas our first question to you because uh why you named your conference are its people's rights you uh you talk about human rights but you called it people's rights uh because uh what you said it's uh very close to what is mentioned in the resolution uh
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230 2361 it's easier of the council of europe because the resolution is clearly stating that there shouldn't be any forced vaccination and any discrimination so why why it's people's rights but not human rights because you put accent on people of europe and the question to you is about the civilians because there is a lot of concern now because you lived in the soviet union and of course then there were no similar tools which are now available and there is a
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great concern among human rights our defenders that the system which is created are presumably for health care is a giant surveillance mechanism that will be used later like chinese system and that's why there is a concern that basically europe dealing with the covet pandemic took the chinese tool of surveillance which is not which is contrary to fundamental rights and principles of the european union
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[Music] some music was nice so basically how you are going how it's possible to citizens to are to defeat this system because that's the greatest fear to avoid that it's used like in china to survey citizens thank you so much for your questions i will answer the question that was addressed to me why in the title of the press conference he was mentioned defending people's rights and not human rights and i'm telling you
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why because right now what we see happening across europe if we just speak in general about human rights not many of these bureaucrats understand what is going on human rights it's a generic term which we all agree with but in this case we are dealing with the rights of the people who have fundamental rights and human rights to do all these things who are hurt at the end are not just some abstract rights which we all agree that they have to be
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respected it's actual people people are concerned that they cannot have a job anymore people are concerned that they will not be able to pay their mortgages because they will be losing their jobs people are concerned that they cannot bring their kids to school if they are not vaccinated so this is the reason why the discussion right now all across europe it should be about people they are all these measures helping the people or not i mean clearly what we've seen happening so far is not helping them on top of violating their basic
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human and fundamental rights thank you yes uh thank you for the good question of course it's very pertinent question to to hold the world not only yes but the recent decision here at the parliament uh president sasoli on friday decided to move back to the hybrid form of work back from the physical uh when the physical attendance and regular norms were introduced again a while ago the covet certificate was uh introduced
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to enter the parliament so when the uh physical attendance was uh again changed to the hybrid form of work he forgot and someone else forgot to remove the uh certificate uh requirement to enter the parliament so that just the small indication of how sticky is the surveillance and data control which uh even in the parliament probably potentially the most democratic institution in the world i would claim
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so we're fighting for that but in general i think people have to be aware but we politicians have to represent the uh all the people in europe and fight for their rights to maintain their data facebook and others collect massive amounts of data so that's the regulation that's the awareness that we have to introduce but first of all we have to understand how the system works so the european parliament has to remove the requirement for the covet certificate to enter the parliament because we're back
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to the hybrid form of work why stick with the covet certificate as we uh didn't have before so that's an example i think indicative or sticky the control the surveillance they want the need for data collection from people uh is around us thank you because our there is a concern that should be addressed about confidential working confidentially is crucial for u.s politicians that you can also work on financially for us for journalists for diplomats and many other professions and of course it's clear
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that when you work in the pizza shop you are not so concerned as a director of a bank for example because confidentiality is crucial for businesses as well when you're on certain level so what what you should how you can address this problem what you can say to all these people who suffer now because they're already in this uh surveillance mode because wherever they go they have to show their uh their covet certificate but nobody knows how later it will be used so what you can say to these people
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uh the example of uh recent weekend across the europe is an example if the politicians don't do their proper job if institutions european institutions fail people will go to the streets and they are going to the streets already so they have to fight for their rights but i think it's dangerous because the extremists can exploit that so the institutions the politicians have to represent and ensure that there is no data abuse the data should be used as minimum as possible the data should be deleted whenever it's collected and and
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and used for whatever purposes so i don't know how my covered certificate data is processed i cannot see that so i don't want that to be uh again in the parliament and across europe as i try to indicate in in my uh brief presentation the pandemic basically is over so all these restrictions including the national or international european certificates are not needed anymore of course we have to take care of our hygiene of course i don't i'm not saying there is no covet but there is no need
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there is no data that shows that these certificates are needed anymore so we have to stop that right now i want to add something to your question just just second uh clearly we are witnessing right now the chainification of europe because we see what is happening in china right now with the social credit score where the government is monitoring and uh surveilling all the people from the beginning to end everything that they do everything everywhere where they walk it's every you know they control everything and they they watch
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everything this is the example of a tyranny when the government knows everything about you where you go what you did while you where you enter that's the tyrannical system and we've seen this system being implemented right now under the leadership of usula from the lion slowly but surely in the in the european union the green certificate was just the first step there are few more proposals right now under debating the parliament the european wallet id for example the european social security guard all these things that are creating a system that will monitor control
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supervise and condition the rights of all the european citizens just yesterday before yesterday actually on monday in the plenary we had the commissioner for work and he said well we need the social european social security card number pass as he called certificate to facilitate the freedom of movement you know we heard this before with the grant certificate so they use this is the same narrative and i invite you guys as journalists just watch what they say and what they
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do because there's a 180 degree different from what they say and what they promised and what they are committing to in front of the plenary and what the end result is when the green certificate was implemented again the commissioner said on record that this is to facilitate the freedom of movement and that's it even in the case that someone does not have this green certificate the regulation allows you to freely travel from one country to another the problem is when
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you arrive in a certain country you will have to follow certain medical restrictions you know like quarantine and others so from what we was told back then in april and may look where we are right now so i'm glad that you asked this question and i invite all the journalists from europe and from the world to see what is happening here because we should not allow this we should not forget that the european union was created in a total opposition of the soviet union even in the article in the in the first article of the of the treaty of the
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european union he says eu it's a an area of freedom not of control not of condition so or not of mass surveillance an area of freedom and it's our duty and our call to fight for this thank you yes there is a standard in law nobody is guilty and proven guilty everybody is innocent until proven guilty and we also had a similar standard in the health system nobody is sick until diagnosed to be sick but what we
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experience now is it's vice versa everybody is a threat until proven to be safe and healthy and this is simply complete madness this is unacceptable and on the surveillance system let me give you a hint i have good connections with india in india for months now there are almost zero cases extremely low number of cases but nonetheless it is a federal state
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some federal entities and the federal government government has the intention or is already implementing um covet certificate they have a different name for that so in europe they say yeah we have a huge number of cases so we need dgc to facilitate but in india they don't have four months now but they still have plans to introduce covet certificate why
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there there is no justification for that so there must be a different global opposition on this genification that's a good term yeah why also in india they are starting to condition people there are some free food programs social programs you cannot get your free food or help unless you are vaccinated or you have a dgc or similar why when there are almost zero cases for
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months now now they are making a like a fear campaign yeah we don't have problem now but we should do this and this and that in order to prevent the third wave from coming to india we are now in they say fourth wave in india they have finished the second and now they are like preparing for the third but uh there is much more to this dgc than just covet crisis thank you khalid amit faruqi from jio television
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news and young group of newspaper i'm based in brussels it is don't you think it is very complicated if you talk about data collection for quarter century european reunion is a surveillance society i cross border 25 years ago they have my data they have everything in german database but i this is very particular situation i mean we are not really no opposition come to
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vast level of data collection you will find everyone in this country in in european union within a 10 minute if you break the law so and this is very particular situation pandemic like vast majority of people in europe really scared with non-vaccinated people so democracy is operating within the embed of majoritarianism and this is the vast majority and very
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tiny minority don't want to be vaccinated and medical experts are saying that they are the threat so why we should put really vast majority or vast number of people in european union under threat because some people don't want to to be vaccinated which right you want to exercise here when non-vaccinated people very tiny minority
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is threat look the numbers i mean they have the point now i live in belgium 25 000 people died in belgium due to covet and now numbers are receded to non-existential so yes these are the fact and we are not talking i'm not talking opinion i'm giving you fact i'll give you five seconds and thank you for raising that question because i'm sure there are many other people all across europe that are asking the same question first of all
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we don't live in a democracy we live in what is called the constitutional democracy so there are certain fundamental rights that are individual that are personal no one can vote for example to chop one of your hands off why not if you're right-handed or left-handed and you have a higher risk of stabbing someone let's chop everybody's hand to make sure that everybody's safe is this the kind of society we want that is the reason why there are certain fundamental rights that are individual and personal and one
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of such right is the integrity of the body no one outside of you can ever vote for you to inject something to eat something to do something with your body it should be solely your will and you wish what to do with your body it's simple as that if we don't understand this basic principle we don't understand how how the western world was developed because this is what is happening right now in china for example where prisoners for example
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you know body parts and and organs are taking away from them to be given to the communist bureaucrats is that the kind of europe that we want i don't believe so now you mentioned that some people or some so-called experts are claiming that the non-vaccinated people are that are a threat to the vaccinated one well let me ask you something back well if they are vaccinated and these vaccines are working so well what do they have any water they feel threatened by someone who's not vaccinated because that's the reason why you're
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vaccinated that's the reason why you're taking the medical product for you to be protected not to blame the fact that these medical products are not working as they were marketed on those that are not taking such products third you were mentioning something about the data collection that is true when you pass the border when you do certain thing the governments are collecting such data yeah that's a legitimate discussion if we should look if there's too much data collected about us who are
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traveling from one country to another and i agree with it the problem is now that all across europe we shifted the burden of proof in any democracy you have law enforcement agencies agencies that are enforcing the law in case you break it you have police you have prosecutors you have all these agencies the problem now in europe is that we have what is called compliance with the law officers do you know who these
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people are when you try to enter the restaurant you have to show your green certificate to a person that might not have a green certificate to a person that doesn't have any medical background to a person that doesn't know anything the person is a waitress over there so now you have to show to another person another individual another citizen that's exactly as you are that you are complying with the law so they transform the whole society
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upside down when you see a law enforcement officer you know that maybe you're in trouble or you've done something that's okay if you broke the law you have to suffer persecution or punishment but if you are a free citizen to go at every corner and show to another citizen that you are complying with the law this is absolutely insane if you read the vision of the founding fathers of the european union none of them even in
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their worst nightmares never ever believed or dreamed that something like this will happen in the european union so you are to ask about the numbers 25 000 death or so uh in belgium and other countries i don't believe these numbers that's the problem you know if you define the case of covet and then resulting death as the someone having a positive pcr test that's not enough
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the 18th of october ecdc guidance on how to define the case should be uh the basis for that the doctor has to diagnose that you are sick and if if you have a positive test and the pcr methodology is highly questionable in itself so the numbers that i look for and the three institutions responsible for statistics including covet statistics in the european union said that excess mortality is the only reliable and comparable that means harmonized across the european union
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statistic related to covet that's where we have to look at and when i dig down in the age groups i don't see any excess mortality up to up to age of 45 or 50 none at all so the elderly people the sick people with other illnesses are the risk groups we should help them we should protect them and potentially we should vaccinate them because the vaccines what they are some of them experimental you know that some of them
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continue to be trial on trial process up to 2023 so they could be a risk in itself but i'm not a medical person i'm a numbers person and the numbers don't tell the story that the decisions are based on the notification rates and ecdc data was quoted by president sasoli on friday when making this decision again to restrict working conditions to hybrid form of action that's not good enough so we should all look at the scientists
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other scientists under a number of them some of them are discredited around the world so we have to debate that but the numbers don't show that we have a pandemic as severe as we had before so therefore all the restrictions should be removed maybe gradually but not to in increased as austria lithuanian and some other countries are doing this is not based on numbers and that's a major issue sorry democracy indeed is the rule of the majority but with the full respect
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to the rights of the minority that's why we have the constitutions of course and all the rights we spoke of also i'm not really sure that a small minority wants to get vaccinated uh wants to remain unvaccinated in belgium i suppose so but in croatia eastern europe we came to like 45 percent with one dose and less than that with two dose in croatia everything else is basically because the people are coerced people are blackmailed people
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are forced to to to take the vaccine so in croatia the majority their free will the majority is decided to go to this crisis without the vaccines with other measures i think that's the situation in bulgaria romania perhaps even some western european countries we should not coerce a certain medical product on anyone there are different there are different approaches to this crisis all around the world but
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unfortunately in in europe we have these like commission based policies and all the governments are simply repeating it and what we want is a democratic debate on everything on everything thank you any more questions online are there any journalists no thank you so much and keep up the good work
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thank you thank you you

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