Atomic Homefront Documentary 2017 | 1080p

Atomic Homefront Documentary 2017 | 1080p

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[Music] [Music] [Music] so this is a spot where we had some evidence that might have elevated levels of radioactivity and now we're just going to come up with some places to be able to take some samples and I get closer down into this pit right here it sort of buries the needle and that's what it has me interested wondering what we might be seeing down
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here do you think North County can really be cleaned up completely I think that if you have widespread radioactivity that's kind of been moved around by floods and other types of you know natural events it could be a pretty big problems [Music] [Music]
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what honey you don't put the sticky note no honey I don't really want you to do that right can you can you guys go downstairs and play why don't you want them out I there's a weather pattern coming in and I know that it's gonna stink either tonight or tomorrow and I really don't want them out there you know some of this you can smell some of this you can't and it's just it's not something that I'm gonna take the chance on what's this dad cuz it looks beautiful out there we just cut the
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grass it would be a great afternoon perfect temperature for kids to go out but you know it's one of the things that we think about living here we watch the weather not for rain not for the severe weather but to figure out what's gonna happen with the Ling and Phil are try and predict how it's gonna be it's a shame in it beautiful neighborhood nice park for kids to play when it isn't stinking that's how it is down here we're kind of hidden back here
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behind this hill but it doesn't stop that stench one bed [Music] we didn't hear about the radioactivity until the the stink of the landfill started I guess it if it wasn't for the smell we no one would have known about the radioactivity [Music]
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we are directly across the street from the landfill there's no getting around it we're less than a thousand feet two days ago in the evening time that's what my smoke detector was doing and my carbon monoxide was doing which notifies me if I need to get inside and close the doors even tighter and put towels up against the bottom of my door let's see that love my dogs all of them have a want and then these strawberry things we
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don't even know what they are he has them all over and they come up look they just appear and they've turned into these really super bad sores he's got all these and they just make him so miserable he just tries to do the best he can [Music] this class is gonna be on monitoring nuclear events it's gonna be given by the seventh civil support team it's a four segments class and they decided to go and include first responders because
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we're gonna be the ones going in when everybody else is bailing out I'll turn it over to the guys now to start this class all right you're gonna see a d-ring to the side that d-ring you turn it it opens up that battery well now uranium is in the ground is it not it comes from the man project that's right the decay product of uranium is radon what's the problem with radon say it again causes cancer causes cancer is a
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better emitter and if it gets out how is he gonna be in Missouri to contain people and sign to this area it's gonna be tough now like those people walk around with all this stuff on them on their cars and their goods take some of that material swear and spread that problem that's what I was gonna become tricky first I got a fire underneath the ground then I got radioactive material and the ground that may be breached by this fire danger zone time to get out if you could perform a rescue at that point I would please don't leave me behind don't leave your buddy behind but it's
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not a time to decide what do we do now please back out that's the unfortunate thing is this all happened in a metropolitan area it does not belong in a residential / commercial municipal populated suburban area in the state that it is in right now and has been for the last 40 years let's fix it let's not just leave it sit out there if this encroaching underground smoldering event reached where the radioactivity is located in the
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incineration of materials very small particles can be released and those particulates can be contaminated with the radionuclides what's going to be carried along with those smoke particles are particles of thorium particles of radium I think you know sometimes particles can be carried five six miles away from the site where it's Bernie you know I have my escape route planned I literally do I have my grad bag I have it in the car have a little emergency
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kit and we go that way the landfill is that way we go straight down the street we make a left and we go straight you guys cooking soot we have so far EPA has always here is the contingency plan and now that the fire could be moving into the North quarry what is EPA's plan B if the isolation
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barrier isn't gonna be able to be installed in time to stop a smoldering fire what solution to north Cori phrase it like that what is your contingency for the contingency plan that is the barrier right you know um do you remember what the date was that they BPA called for the barrier it was last summer right so they had a year to get all the testing and data that they needed to figure out if they even could or could not do this barrier and they haven't they wasted let's write that one down and million dollar question is what
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happens when the fire meets the waist you know I think we really need to hammer that home when I met Karen nickel she had already created a Facebook page and so now we're maybe about a hundred or so people on it I joined we hit the ground running we created just moms because we were told if you're going to organize and you're going to host public meetings you have to call yourself something we're like we're just bounce
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like we're just pawns s to you say those [Music] I'd rather be home with you guys that's right there'll be lots of important stuff that's why god named oh that's really actually sad that's why God made meetings all right dog look out okay I gotta go I love you is that my dress yeah man I don't even have time to try it on he's invited to his first
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birthday party oh you're going to look it's right there no this is Quinn's oh oh oh just first [Music] that I feel my anxiety rising I hate that literally like every time I come to the stoplight if I'm on my way to one of these meetings my anxiety level I could just feel it start in my stomach and I'm like so much rides on these meetings it's like do or die literally [Music]
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[Music] good evening everybody I'd like to call this meeting to order please we have the Army Corps of Engineers maker presentations evening about radioactive safety levels all right I just want to say thank you everybody for your time we appreciate this chance to come out here and talk a little bit so we have a lot of data I'm very good understanding of the health impacts from radiation at very high doses what we don't really have is any good data on low levels of exposure and what the harmful effects might be this equation right here is
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just sort of a simplified example of how we calculate risk when we actually input these parameters we try to use the conservative assumptions for well how much could human being conceivably inhale in a day can I just clarify I just a small question you said there are no I'll just say there's no good data on low-level exposure correct so what are these risk models based off risk models are based on data from like atomic weapons survivors from industrial accidents and things like that
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where are the health studies anywhere that show that if I build my home on nuclear weapons waste what happens to my kids 30 years later I think you have to understand in terms of less like and what we're dealing with in the potential of this fire hitting it and letting it out you guys could be wrong okay I don't want to interrupt you Doug but I'm Mary Peterson with the Environmental Protection Agency and now I'll take a stab at this as best I can so what Joe was talking about was how we
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do risk assessment okay it's not based on statistics okay it's not based on actual cases of cancer it's based on a probability that people could have an increased risk of getting cancer okay Mary I want to just pick up on this there is a report about the progress of the fire now we have concern that these particles can become airborne if they're hit by the landfill fire the rate the fires been progressing I understand that these things take time but I
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don't think there's been conclusive evidence of the movement of the SSE that's my understanding is that there are differing opinions on that we've heard the EPA say that its plan for the fires the isolation barrier but the radioactive wastes have not been properly identified EPA currently doesn't know where they're all at so what is the contingency because you guys are in charge of the radioactive waste and you make it sound as if you're not gonna do anything until the fire is at the doorstep and that's not comforting
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to a lot of folks here until it's at the doorstep or on a time line okay to make a decision regarding an isolation barrier within the next couple months and then the 14 to 18 months is the timeframe for the design to be completed it's just it would have been nice if it was done two years ago but it's extending the length of this and it's excruciating to this community I guess with what you know already how many of you would be willing to buy a house right near this particular site I
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wouldn't have any qualms with regard to radioactivity contamination oh and I actually have quite a bit of family in this area so not not right in Bridgeton but fairly close st. Charles neighbors tell me you would buy a house in the backyard of this landfill I don't believe it I don't believe anybody here would have the guts to admit that they wouldn't want to live here yeah we'd be nice if we could schedule when the stench is coming rather than abruptly being awakened in the middle of the night cuz you smell the crap coming through your windows and you're thinking what the heck am I
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dreaming yeah I'm living a nightmare have something to say yes I was born and raised in Spanish village in 1971 to 1977 I buried my 12-year old daughter to a glioblastoma brain tumor I have three other children at home sick and you want to live here you honestly want to live here Tommy do you because I can't physically
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just bury another child okay I I can't and you tell me you want to live here 9:18 here big 550 KTRS joining us now is Russ Mackey vice president of communications for Republic services your company owns the Bridgeton landfill which has been in the news I just want to leave your your audience with with this point Bridgeton landfill is safe it is in a managed state we're gonna continue to manage that reaction
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and eventually it will self extinguish it was so the fire will just burn out naturally eventually we believe that it'll self extinguished Ross naki vice president of communications thank you for time thanks for having me really I have to I'm really excited to be here this is a good fight this is a really good fight so one of the things you said is you didn't have any training well guess what today's your lucky day and you have to take all of the beliefs you once had about how change happens
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and just throw them out the window so Don you want to start hi my name is dawn Chapman and I'm just a mom um I have three kids this is not a career choice not where I thought I'd be right now fact I got a little notional cuz I can't it's not the fact that Lois Gibbs is here I think it's the fact that we need you sorry I'm crying we all take turns crying people don't see that that we really are just moms and we're scared well I call myself the accidental
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environmentalist you know it's a story of literally thousands and thousands and thousands mostly women across the country who never thought they would be and then blah just pass the word around nobody we're not gonna do anything violent this work just in to federal environmental
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officials are being held hostage at the Love Canal homeowners associations headquarters people there stirred up by an announcement that presidents chromosome damage may be linked of toxic chemical exposure President Carter will
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sign the pact committing 15 million dollars in federal funds to buy up the homes of Love Canal residents I want to recognize the grass roots leader of the Love Canal residents Lois Gibbs without her impassioned advocacy and this agreement might never have come to pass there must never be in our country another Love Canal thank you very much [Applause]
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it is possible for you to win what you want but it's not possible to win it all at the same time it's a long-term short-term thing and you have to be disciplined about what you're doing and so in order to set those goals you need to figure out goals for what and really put together a plan of action do you think we Virgil still has that little park there dad well I'm sure the piece of ground is there whether or not it's been maintained I would had no idea but that's where you guys used to cross the creek was down there all for beaver
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tail all the time mm-hmm now here's our old house right here on the left oh my gosh look at our bushes oh my god our porch is falling I'm pretty good our fences falling down remember when we first moved in this was just a natural Creek there was no concrete no sides no fence and then you just timed right down to it when they did this the kids couldn't cross the creek anymore you see I'll just climb down and climb
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over you know Sam and Anita they're both passed away from cancer on the corner down there the Clarkes over here on the left three people and that family died to cancer and including two children when they live there we cross the street he has cancer I mean just right here in this street there's a lot of people who have passed away from cancer oh my goodness you could still climb it not as pretty as I remember the concrete starts right
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there doesn't it yeah Wow so kids could still crawl through this Creek here yeah if I had a dollar for every time I cross that Creek [Music] [Music] it was the spring of 2011 I got on Facebook in order to reconnect with people from high school and we all immediately started noticing but so many of us were sick as you look through the yearbooks you can see there are a lot of
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people who are no longer with us who passed away of very bizarre cancers is it first we thought maybe there's a problem with our high school maybe our high school has something in it when they built it that is causing health problems but when I started finding out that my grade school friends he went to a different high school were battling the same diseases it became very eerie I realized wait a minute this is not some
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toxin or whatever in that high school it's much bigger than that now in Coldwater Creek meandered all through our neighborhoods it is the dividing line between these school districts we've discovered that the Department of Veterans Affairs officially recognizes around 21 cancers associated with exposure to ionizing radiation and compared that list to what we had we had all of those cancers every single one
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we've been took all that information and made maps the first maps were extremely alarming I started color coding different issues with people so if I could see is there any kind of rhyme or reason to the dots and what what is this what do we really have here what's happening it's healing up so beautifully those are all mine I'm ager I guess Jonas's cancer is in the soft tissue
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behind his sinuses so it's inoperable i anice radiation is one of the reasons for Ewing's so I think that's a big indicator with what's going on with Coldwater Creek over the summer it started like right here and my face started becoming numb and my jaw started lock up a little bit and that was the summer of 2011 um things around my 13th
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birthday right at the end of school to about midsummer and none ever on midsummer and I think it was like July 4th that it actually like hit and I went to the hospital and stayed there for like two months do you need anything they might have taken that okay I believe that I was poisoned by the creek and the nuclear dumping that went on there and that my son inherited this kind of disease from that my neighborhood was a hot spot and the
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children who were raised there now having very sick children my sisters three of us have had children and each of us has had one very sick child I'm really grateful to the people really looking into this because I don't have time to do that my life is invested here and trying to help my son get through this we anticipate going home with hospice care step one that's angered me and kept me
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awake at night in nightmares is that all the basements of my childhood friends as homes were flooded with thorium 2:30 in the 1970s and 1980s and people live in those houses what are we gonna do to get in those houses to test those basements what do we do about that so crux of the meeting with the Army Corps is to update the public with where are they add on their testing and the remediation just in st. Louis alone they've already taken out 1.2 million cubic yards of contaminated material right now the places where they found it
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is in the embankment levels of Coldwater Creek which are you know the wall areas below above the waterline I think the most important thing for people to know is what's been cleaned up and what hasn't and then who's sick for coming out tonight the formerly utilized site remedial action program Fu's rap with the Corps of Engineers is going to be our first speaker they're going to give us updates on this cleanup project and this has been ongoing for a long time
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began in the 90s and we're here to make sure everyone knows it's still going on and what progress is being made why wouldn't we have signs along the creeks I mean I think that has to go on somebody's agenda what's your sign gonna say that's gonna say warning don't go in this Creek there's a lot of people who live in our community have no clue that there's nuclear weapons waste in this community they have no idea that it isn't contained safely somewhere and being watched over a man that's right
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why we don't have signs up around Coldwater Creek to date we haven't found any contamination that would justify putting up signs it currently doesn't present the immediate risk so there's no yes it did it does present a chronic long-term risk the question is is there anybody testing houses that have historically flooded along the creeks we currently aren't testing in any houses
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any basements you know if we're trying to protect people that would be a good way to because if they're in their homes and they're surrounded by contaminated soil that may be one good way to start this is an environmental health disaster the legacy of the Manhattan Project so there is absolutely no doubt that there are direct and indirect risks to human health but they said there's no health risks but there's long-term risk I was like what I didn't like that at all do do they mean I felt like they dusted over a lot I'm a sick person that is
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sick from this [ __ ] great you know they mean let's talk about that what are you gonna do about that [Music] Mallinckrodt yoga works processed uranium for the US government in downtown st. Louis starting in April of 1942 it was in total secrecy Mallinckrodt had this extremely valuable
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material from the Belgian Congo the richest uranium ore known on the planet it was very very radioactive much more so than the United States uranium ore the workers had to use code names they didn't say uranium they used terms like orange juice and so forth Mallon cried purified all the uranium that went into the first nuclear weapons so st.
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Louis was really the birth of the Atomic Age we have this wonderful correspondence what they knew and what they didn't want others to know that but do not remove any papers from this box so I mean it was very nice that dr. Mancuso I was very flattered
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[Music] okay it's confidential gliosarcoma brain 48 carcinoma of the liver and this person was 58 bronchial genic carcinoma age 62 metastatic carcinoma age 54
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sarcoidosis bilateral pulmonary age 58 bronchial genic carcinoma Mallinckrodt chemical works right after World War two like in 1946 or 47 began trucking waste out to the airport site and of course going from downtown you know they spilled stuff along the way [Music] the trucker's dumped them there and spread them out and they did it even at night and they said it was very
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beautiful because everybody sparks cuz uranium is pyrophoric it can't catch on fire the federal government decided they wanted to sell these materials that have been dumped at the airport side over in 11 or 12 year period because they were very valuable lots of minerals and so forth so they put ads and they did find a company called the cutter corporation in Colorado they trucked just about a mile away to a place called laddie
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Avenue [Music] my father is an eyewitness that he recalled big dump trucks that were not covered coming and just dumping piles that look like dirt rainwater was coming off of these piles and washing into the creek then in 1973 the wastes were trucked to West Lake landfill by a company hired by the Cotter corporation the wastes were dumped there illegally
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I don't remember do you all remember the quarry being divided like they sure wouldn't know what no wet wicked reason they came up with that later on they just assumed everybody was dead you know there was nobody to tell the story of what I'm saying walk to the front gate to drive your car in it where ya know restricted area no time I went around the print I worked all night all the way
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around picked up we're good we there what they tell me to do so did you all have any protective a lot of times they brought it in at night when there was less people were they used to dump up they alway to like 12 o'clock yeah these are bringing in now then they would they cover it up once it got covered up everybody had to walk over to [Music]
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a ground that would not freeze didn't free them you can snow or no snow there go when it hit it melted well nothing that stuff you didn't allow dainty Wars you know you just be out there working you know nobody tell you nothing and this is something how they've tried to retain the fire and how they try to separate it to keep it from spreading and I just laughed I said huh can't they keep it from spreading when you have it all over there was a smell out my house and they called me and said uh it's a pipe with
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like steam and bubbly stuff and it really smells and I'm like alright I'm on my way yeah well you see how it's flapping you can see in there stuff you can see the stuff coming out of it that's clear water it looks like that's rainwater this is mr. Gallagher I'm getting I'm getting going oh yes I recall your name on the M DNR letter my name is Robin Daly I live over here inside engineering problems with the Flair last night I had crews work until 7:00 this morning
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yeah so we weren't extracting the quantity of gas that we were extracting yes but there's a few compounds in here that are very odorous I call them perfume Lancel perfume yeah that's what I call when you bring out the odor neutralizer you're perfuming the poison but it's not poison it's kind of like the church lady here okay is you know she's got that expensive bottle of perfume she can't smell herself anymore soulless she puts a little more on and
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she sits next to you and she's got so much perfume on and it's almost obnoxious okay so I called this this is kind of like my church lady all right so my job is to control the gases that are going into the air but a little yes I am getting a whiff of it here mister getting people are really becoming ill but I'm not I'm not a doctor I can't speak to that people are getting ill
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from it yeah all right you've seen the hall logs of what was dumped here it's just incredible some are not even listed they're just like known [Music] [Music] it's been a lot of time out here December 2010 is the first time that we were aware of conditions that may be subsurface smoldering elevated temperatures elevated carbon monoxide in early 2012 or so we were observing the
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failure of some of the wells from heat the wells were starting to actually kind of topple over there were areas where he started seeing portions of the landfill drop in elevation about 15 feet or so you know that's pretty dramatic settlement over the course of a year you would start seeing cracks forming in the surface we saw cracks that were in some cases foot or two wide we also observed odors getting out of those cracks they had a failure of part of the landfill
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gas extraction system in the areas where they had put black plastic down to try to capture some of the odors they were pillowed out you know in some cases about ten feet up in the air you know on the other side of that plastic is volatile organic compounds in March 2013 I accompanied staff from the hazardous waste program and you know there were a couple hot spots that they found they found a radium 226 at the ground surface
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so off into the air that's certainly you know one of the potential concerns okay joining me at the table Robin Daly a citizen activist you have become now around this issue and also Russ Nakia director of field communications and public affairs at Republic services the owner of Bridgeton landfill which is right next door so thank you for being here Robin I'll start with you as a resident who lives how close to West Lake landfill less than half a mile less than a half of a mile and what of what are those the last four years or so been
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like it's been a roller coaster ride from H E double L you we don't know when we can open our windows if you open your windows then pretty soon here comes the waft of it even a simple thing as hanging Christmas lights my husband had to put on a respirator Renault you've heard these these issues before I'm curious what do you want to live in this area it's actually in Spanish village and Bridgeton it's a phenomenal community you know one of the concerns we have is what this hysteria is actually doing for Bridgeton and in
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the future of Bridgeton is there something more you could do to make people at least put them at ease a little bit well anytime I get an opportunity like this one I accept it to come on and try to talk you know with the community about an alternative perspective that's based in science the reality is Lin that was safe it's intensely monitored oh well well well it's my lucky my lucky necklace yeah okay which shoes real quick what's wrong
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with the ones you get off but nothing wrong I have I have I have boots you're tall enough what do you think I'll wear the boots go go for the boots you're gonna kick butt anyway so go alright they're new they're new motto is we'll take it from here we'll take what that's it that's what they're trying to pull nationwide they're trying to do Republic we'll take it from here
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I think that is so hilarious we'll take it from here I love you don't I love you too mom okay go get a baby boom yeah the Attorney General filed a major lawsuit against Republic Services that had to do with environmental violations so the Attorney General has committed to the public that the fire will never be allowed to reach the nuclear waves it funny that the Attorney General is the one that said the fire will never be allowed to meet
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the radioactive waste wouldn't you expect that out of EPA's mouth yeah we wouldn't felt good if EPA had said that but it didn't he was the first person to say it and he said it early on yeah it seems to me they're curling up no show they're scared no no their job they [ __ ] up this sites pardon me so badly that they don't know what thank you all this evening we've got a couple things on our list of two dears the first is I want to talk about some
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glaring absence in the audience this evening we do not have the Environmental Protection Agency with us here this evening our last meeting there was a exchange between some of our residents and the EPA there was shouting nothing was thrown but the EPA has let us know that they are concerned about their well-being in our presence now that being said by Superfund law they
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have to be here and I'd be willing to have a police officer stand at the door if it makes them feel happy if they don't come to any future meeting we will see that as a sign that EPA is deserting us and that is in violation of the Superfund law yes Dorothy I just really quick would like to add that when we did that meeting with EPA it was in the spirit of cooperation you know they come to these meetings and we present them with these facts every single thing from the one in 50 terminal cancer risk to the thirty-nine thousand tons of soil
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that they're not acknowledging to the air and the risk assessment to math errors we laid it all out for them and when I want you guys to know is it when they left that room we took away from them plausible deniability there is no way using their own documents and looking at that information that they left that room not thinking there were mistakes at this site we said we want you guys from this moment forward to do the right thing you have a mandate as our EPA now you go do what you're
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supposed to do so thank you don [Music] [Music] the mere fact that there's a fire in the side Wow [Music] just mom's st. Louis have traveled in DC to meet with EPA Administrator Gina McCarthy [Music]
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unfortunately the administrator has refused to meet even after receiving a bipartisan letter requesting such a meeting who else has the ability to help the victims Bill Gates does he holds 30% of the shares and Republic Services through his investment company cascade investments this includes 17 million shares worth about six hundred and ninety four million purchased in 2014
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alone he has the power to convince Republic Services to do the right thing my child has been diagnosed with a rare form of alopecia environmentally triggered I go to bed worrying I wake up boring my five-year-old will develop cancer [Music] we wouldn't be in Bridgton Missouri
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right next to Westlake lamp though are you able to give something directly to Gina yes I wouldn't really love for you to give this picture of my son to her okay and tell her that the moms are not going away and that we need her to meet with us today three mothers the administrator and appreciate your time all right thank you very much do you think so meat or no you
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can't stay with me good afternoon we have a delivery for Bill Gates Foundation on the second floor have petitions no no we just visit delivery okay okay okay okay is it on when you take our stuff okay we've been trying for like nine months to reach somebody just even by phone
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never know thank you for my shirt I love it by Rebecca [Music] when I started I thought we just make these phone calls here and get these people the information they need we'll be able to step back and they'll take it from here I thought somebody would take it because all we needed to do was show him that it was a real problem and that's not happened and nobody will take this we gotta go to quinny's conference please
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get shoes on oh my god okay Larry I was gonna ask you about the methane in the wells in the North quarry okay okay that makes sense cuz I couldn't figure out where that would be maybe it's not up on
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the page I want to leave I don't want to live here anymore I've had enough of living in fear about the health effects my family and I won't lie there's part of me that wishes that I could just pack everybody up and move to Florida and never have to hear about the landfill again yeah most
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people I know in the community that want to get out they can't do it our property values and fallen so much that we really we can't afford to move out of this house right now concerns tonight about an underground fire in a st. Louis County landfill a fire that may soon spread to nearby radioactive waste the Missouri Department of Natural Resources just released a report on the Bridgeton landfill and newsChannel 5's grant Bissell is live in Bridgeton the DNR says temperature monitoring probes show
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part of the North quarry is heating up beyond the North quarry of course is some of the radioactive waste and that really is the major concern here the DNR is giving the landfills owner 30 days to come up with a new plan that will guarantee the fire is contained meanwhile nearby resident Don Chapman feels progress at the dump has been too slow and the plan should have been developed a long time ago the most
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recent set of data that I got were showing some heat and some Co that was not consistent with what it has been so I felt it was time to get back on the helicopter heap and get some infrared of what was going on morning Matt thanks for joining us hey good morning McGraw how bad is this there's indications that the fire is now moving through the neck area it's closer today that the radioactive material than it's ever been they say a thousand feet you know I
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think a thousand feet might be confirmed but no one's taking responsibility and no one's taking the lead you talk to everybody governor's senators congressmen public officials republic services they all sort of say oh well this one's looking at that one's again we're gonna do another study who is in charge of this and who ultimately do you think is gonna step in and say we need to shut it down now yeah you know your guess is as good as mine you've heard some people earlier in the fall talking about these were activists and some other folks who were involved
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talking about a distance of a thousand feet or 1,200 feet it's not true today it's it's 2,500 feet okay well there's a lot of people on social media and as you can imagine a lot of people are listening to every word you say I want it on the record because they're telling me one thing I want to hear sure absolutely and you know here's the difference I gotta be accountable [Music] at the hazardous materials incident from the landfill or from an accident in the community were to occur there are two options available for a response
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evacuation or shelter-in-place sheltering in place involved staying inside the building and shutting down air intakes where possible to limit exposure to outside air this is the second time I've read it actually it's kind of slapped you in the face that they're having to prepare like there's no solution our chief just parked his car at Target because there's no place to park Wow
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yeah it's packed we're still coming in if everyone could just kind of squeeze together and make as much room as possible it would be greatly appreciated many of you probably heard for the first time about this situation because letters came home from the schools the news has been covering an evacuation plan we called this emergency meeting because at this point we have nothing in front of this fire why do we have to have all of this information in order to do
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something so common sense is to build a wall because every place they test they're finding it there is no place right now to build a wall they don't know that they're d--ation free that's right my honest opinion is I don't know that there's gonna be a barrier wall I think you all have to accept the fact that there might not be a way to put a barrier wall into that situation I've been here 10 minutes I've known about this two days and this is insane this is
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not get the bulldozers get to nuclear waste out and move in the fire you can deal with later but they're never gonna do this I don't disagree don't disagree welcome to the party pal and we have the mark teacher come up and answer a lot of the questions that you may have about the emergency planning I just want to take a moment to explain what shelter-in-place and evacuation means what I would urge you to do is to create your own disaster plan for your
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family the people that are here right now no one is aware this is even existing but there is an emergency plan to have in place that's why I'm here we won't know how far anything's going to reach until the event happens I mean I understand that that's not an answer that you want to hear and I apologize for that but it is the best information that is available next I moved from Chernobyl cell 20 years ago to save my
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daughter my in-laws both of them died from cancer my aunt died from cancer my thirty years old cousin diagnosed with cancer my mom cancer survival my dad passed away from brain cancer last year do you want that for your children what about your life who will pay for all of those expenses for the cancer for lupus for breathing problem for asthma who will pay for that I think that the government
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has to be held responsible and people were elected to defend your interests and whose interests are they defending money interests you can't be quiet anymore [Music] this is just from those heavy rains from last night you know Wednesday this was dry in the 20 plus years that you've lived here how far is that water from the creek backed up to you both ever came up throughout
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the street okay so you moved in basically in late 80s 92 92 and we had the flood 93 right so that's probably when you headed up to the back end up to the back all right yeah well they started purifying uranium going where the Manhattan Project I read that so Defense Department and may I make a remark yes my wife and I are cancer survivor do that okay when I moved to
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Flores in 1974 my son was three years old NES Stage four appendix I know it's not easy [Music] so like right here is really long whoa listen first of all let's not let's not stretch the truth like when I lost
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my hair all of this right here was completely bald but I kept a little area and a little hairy Jeffy needs to retire she's been a real pain in the butt lately she's that wind friendly don't wear a wig in the wind it's supposed to work out as she lays there dad like I'm thinking like a tired cat Wow it's like happy hour just to kind of this is the thing that this style she thing where we
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do a lot of really cute different things with it so I think that it would be time to say goodbye to the wig it looks a lot better Charlize Theron with the dark hair yeah I look just like Charlie you all right oh look try to convince Mike that when I get home I went this week for cancer scans and I go tomorrow for the results so I'm just going with everything's good every little thing is gonna be alright
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it's gonna be all right it appears that the cancer is spreading outside town there appear to be spots in the spine and the bones the brain scan is showing the 13 spots because she dream i stager yes before yes are you [ __ ] kidding me yeah you did everything and you follow through with everything that was said so this is not for the lack of you trying keep your
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positive attitude what good is a positive attitude um I've done everything everything the things that I freely show live on today news so stage four cancer is not curable it's livable let's put it that way it's not curable but you can live with it I know I know all these different types of cancers could be associated with the exposures from the site but to really say that for an individual that their cancer was
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caused from the site would require a huge dose reconstruction would be easily a $10,000,000 study one of our worst fears from day one was that we were gonna have down stream down the creek stream we were gonna have more radiation found and now we're finding out today officially that yes they found things so now we have a massive problem because our theories of the transport of the radionuclides downstream is a reality good evening everyone I'm Julian Wade
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from the Corps of Engineers we have areas of contamination that we found along Coweta Creek we found contamination at st. Anne Park to Chene park and Archer assets and properties yes yes hi I'm Matt Zimmer and I'm the city manager reason why we made that decision was we were going into the summer season we have a lot of children and high schoolers who like to use that park it's a the heavily far if we didn't have parks earthenware were
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the kids going to go given the additional information and the concerns expressed by people in the neighborhood we will certainly reconsider that decision I just like to say that when we separate the issue from West Lake to Coldwater Creek we can't do that they're one of the Saints from the West Lake when we built new subdivisions the
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Coldwater Creek area we got the dirt from there we got asphalt we got cement and these were used in our homes our streets and our highways so how can we separate the two [Applause] what's been found er to my understanding is thorium-232 so that's some pretty nasty stuff it goes everywhere from six inches to five foot deep
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you know that's man that's just not acceptable the originated point of melon crop where it came from took my father and this parts taking my son currently for fiscal 2017 we are in the president's budget for about twenty four and a half million the funding is not enough to accelerate the program and do it in a much more rapid form biggest frustration is insufficient funds in the
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insufficient time [Music] [Music] so now if they found the radionuclides in a park you think there's a problem people have been listening to us thinking we're a little crazy and now they're gonna realize we knew what we were talking about the last four years and this proves our theory our theory has been that again where they found this stuff Don is where it's led it over and over and over into this whole thing this makes me so irate I know it's okay
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[Music] white people get poisoned [Music] I really just wanna throw punch [Music] I'd like to thank you all for being here and we have EPA to respond to any questions that we might have agency decided based on the data we've seen based on the information we have for the site and how it relates community concern we're gonna we've told the
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parties to install an isolation barrier we're negotiating that order right now and our intent is to get that order out as soon as we can we're hoping this month perhaps next but again it's negotiation at this point but we are going to take action we are going to issue an order this year not next year this year has that ever been tested for RIM the South quarry has not been tested for rent no man so I guess this is my
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question then how can any kind of a barrier go up if you don't test what's currently burning right now because if the rims already where there's fire the barrier means nothing well in the history of the landfill does not demonstrate that rim was placed in there in history you guys said there was no rim outside of the boundaries and now there is so I follow the logic but again based on the history of the site history that has been wrong right why wouldn't you test it
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[Applause] as a resident I feel like you're afraid to the answer no one is sure how the radioactive soil ended up in the dense vegetation you see behind me here along st. Charles Rock Road what is certain is the EPA now knows it's there my message to other moms who find themselves in a similar situation Superman's not coming sometimes you you have to be your own superhero [Music] you know this is an urgent issue here
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I'm sure you're very well aware we don't know exactly how far the fire is from any waste we can't say that the waste isn't already burning yes at this time how far is the fire from the known radioactive waste my understanding from the measurements we've seen it's just under 700 feet so that's that's to understand I guarantee
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you 100% for me the data I've seen and the information I've looked at I have not seen any data that's demonstrated there's a human exposure otherwise I would have the authority to take an action on that I will tell you that the people I represent do not want anything short of a full excavation a voluntary buyout during construction or remedy process before excavation I know that's
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what a lot of folks can't live without it has to be what I can do within the law on the box that I haven't worked with that it's 2016 today question is are we gonna be sitting in this room in 2024 what's still nothing done at the landfill [Music]
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[Music] [Music] [Music] you know we've spent months trying to learn what we can about the situation here and also about your situation in this particular house we've received the results and and they do show that there is radioactive contamination in the home we're talking about radioactive isotopes like led to 10 thorium 2:30 a.m. to 26 and furthermore
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the scientists who have done this work are able to fingerprint the wastes that are here as the same material that was dumped in the land the West Lake landfill the original Mallinckrodt radioactive waste and and unfortunately your neighborhood and your home is now part of that that story and the contamination is in the house never would have realized guessed in a billion
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years that this could possibly happen to you I just how long is this going to take will we be relocated that's what I really want because we really don't want to stay here the EPA can have this house they can sell it to somebody else after they get it remediated I've already spent enough time here I don't want to be here any longer talk talk talk and no action they do any action it's half-ass action it's delayed
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action it's not even the right action it's just not right good evening Council I am one of the residents that has the contamination from the West Lake landfill Manhattan Project red waste in their home I moved there in 1999 I didn't know I was living and moving next to a radioactive Superfund had no idea it's a secret in st. Louis they don't even allow you to disclose it it's not necessary when you're buying a home I didn't sign up to
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live next to one and I sure as heck didn't want to be contaminated by one because EPA and Republic Services said there's nothing to worry about we know where all the rad waste is and we know exactly where it is off-site and it's not where you're at well guess what I'm contaminated now and I want you to know that I have heavily landscaped my yard since 1999 my husband and I have dug holes almost two feet deep to plant trees and other things so I mean we are
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really into it up to here with the stuff and now it's in my house too we've got irrefutable indisputable proof this isn't thorium that can be found in the United States it has a Monza night's signature which is a fingerprint a DNA that traces that all the way back to Schinkel oh boy mined in the Belgian Congo now there's no way in aichi double-l I got that from anywhere but the West Lake landfill because that cannot be add on these United States
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soil so all I can say is here's the face of contamination when we were constantly told not to worry about it my government has failed me the EPA has failed me my god were referred to as those people those people up there that are bringing trouble into our neighborhood by continuing the silence it creates the apathy and it perpetuates the lie and the lie continues in the homes get sold and the unsuspecting homeowners keep coming and coming and
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coming why my house can't be remediated you know why because the source of work came from is still there and it still has the red waste in it so that's my sad story I look to the council I'm looking for some help I'm looking for more than you know we're really sorry I I know you're all sorry and that is a genuine feeling but I've heard enough of that we are hurting community not everybody wants to leave but I do [Music]
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okay so charge they're located here in the City Hall yeah witness no one's ever really my
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name is Robin Daley I'm the resident and Spanish village that has had the contamination found in her home and on her property after we've been told by you guys as well as Republic Services that you know where the rad waste is and you know where its off-site at but you never ever came up the hill a half a mile south of the landfill to test our neighborhoods it just kept us all in the dark saying it was okay nothing to be concerned about now we're living a bedstead how am I gonna fix Thanksgiving dinner when
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it's in my kitchen and you're all welcome to come on in we'd love to please leave the cameras and me and camera crew behind be happy to talk with you thank you so much under Section 10 of stone glass does this trigger imminent threat I think the first thing if there's data you can provide there's an order for relocation how would you not think with it laying on the surface
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of that landfill that it would not have been wind blown into the subdivision we have markers all the way around everything's been below levels are residential use action to use so if you're finding levels being released from the site what does 43 years of combination of that leaving the site especially when there was a vegetation I'm going to tell you right now there's particulates but other particulate sorry no not that I
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can see he did admit something Harvey that I don't know if you were aware of or not but you know those particle detectors that are around the sides did you know they're picking up radioactive particles in him yeah and they have been just not at quote-unquote actionable levels I kid you not Karen am I making it up that's what he said this agency knows how that stuff got in her house I mean they know better
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they're not stupid they're not surprised by this they're surprised that somebody else found it I can tell you right now I don't wanna live here anymore I'm done I do not want to raise my kids in this home I get on Zillow every night looking dream of all these houses at once just to get out of here I don't want much I just want out of here and we can't afford it for the longest time our own government has told us that our home was safe they have told us when you encounter the odor
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