《ENG-Sub》峠最強伝説 トヨタ86合同テスト!!【Best MOTORing】2014

《ENG-Sub》峠最強伝説 トヨタ86合同テスト!!【Best MOTORing】2014

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00:12
Touge fastest legend. Hello everyone, I am a fresh assistant today, Airi Sasaki. You don't have to repeat "fresh" so many times. Yes, I'm fresh. If you say repeat, watchers may think we record this scene so many times. You say fresh ? Freshly squeezed, very fresh. Your one is not enough for squeeze. No, man. Freshly squeezed assistant, Airi Sasaki as known as Irene. She says please visit official blog. And that is manager of Irene, ex. Fresh assistant. Today we will deal with them. Let’s move on. You might be familiar with them. They are all descendant of my AE86. Well, yes, maybe. My AE86 is the origin you know. This is joint test of new 86. Joint test ? Yes, joint test. So it would seem to need my AE86 for this. Do you really mean it? You need Mame AE86 ? You won't have name of 86 till you surpass the AE86. Do you remember the test soon after the new 86 released ? Yes I do remember. It was almost first touch for the tuners, but it clocks 26.5sec here at Gunsai. Yes it was.
01:19
Was it 26.4 ? Oh, it was 4. They run at such speed. It was very fast as first touch. We all assumed new 86 would bring a new trend. It's been a year since then, how is the latest tuning ? It's developed a lot. First of all, engine has much power. Various shops has put their know-how onto this, it might be competitive to S2000 soon. To S2000 ? That must be my AE86. I will let that battle towards S2000 only AFTER surpass my AE86. Yes. OK, we will introduce you the new 86 joint test session To surpass S2000, they come together again. Touge Fastest Legend, TOYOTA 86 tuners joint test. Entry 1 Fastest 86 of stock engine, Revolution. TOYOTA86 joint test. The 1st entry is weight reduction version. Revolution 86 marks the fastest time at Tsukuba Battle, and Mr.Aoki, tuner. Nice to see you again, this is Aoki. The feature is lightweight. Yes. How light is this one ? Approximately, by 100kg. By 100kg.
03:21
Door and roof are obvious. You can see them panel in black. Yes, they are. Black, that’s CFRP. That's right. Look, rip spoiler is beautifully finished. This seems aerodynamic. 1060kg with those spoilers and wing is very light. Yes, very light. What the hell are you doing there? I am told to open this. I tell you again, 1060kg is very light. Yes, indeed. It is. This car seems to be set up for circuit. Yes, basically this one is circuit oriented. I found it has bumpy surface when I drove here today, I hope this car suit this course. I will try the dumpers soften. We are starting joint TEST of new 86/BRZ by now. Those tuners have developed their cars at circuit for a year. Today we like to check and see their winding capabilities here at Gun-sai. It moves so light ! It is so light. Feel so good. Section record time for the target is 25.576sec marked by J's Racing Maou S2000 Time is 27.228sec. Is not fast as its feeling. Smooth and light, just like a water strider. Such a good car.
05:15
It is surprising. Well, this is fast one. It's so good at corners. They changes tire because it can't get warm enough. Nob takes the steering now. How does it go ? This set is obviously for circuit. It seems body scratches surface too much. Despite that, I sense strong road contact. Now Orido shows his "max" driving. Time is 26.241sec. It's record breaking time of new 86. Results announcement. Revolution 86, this is outstanding. Outstanding. I felt this has a lot of power. Remember, this is stock 86 engine without enough power for such attack. It doesn't, in fact. But it makes me feel like that. Final gear ration make that better. I agree with that. Why the hell you gave only 85 point? Engine itself doesn't have power. Well, that's right. Handling is also worth to talk about. That is excellent, isn’t it ? That is so good because of its lightweight. Yes, this is remarkable handling I say.
07:15
This gives me strong road contact feel. Right. At the gap, isn't that little bumpy ? This car rides sticking to the ground with very low ride height because of circuit oriented setup, that is why gaps may bump and shake the body little too much. Right. You put lower point on brakes, Orido. I did experienced scary moment, so I gave it lower. Wow, what was there ? It didn't stop. 86 is equipped with ABS of course, and it works little too earlier. It interferes too early. Early interference. Next, about throttle control. Personally I can give 98 point or 100point. This car has great balance enough for the full mark. I agree. You can change car direction by either throttle or foot brake that means this car is capable for load shift by your intension. Is there anything more you can do for it ? I am looking for that in engine. At this moment I put air cleaner, computer and exhaust manifolds that suits for car inspection. Stock engine may have such feelings in fact. That is right way of doing that. Yes, great job. Especially replaced final gear is worth.
08:21
It is. It is the choice you have to notice. It makes car move so light. Yes. Entry 2 Fastest turbo machine, Rasty. 86 joint test, 2nd entry is turbo powered 450ps 86. Rasty 86 and the tuner, Mr.Arita who won FR battle on vol.121. Thanks for inviting. 450ps. 450ps, that a lot. Yes, a lot of power. Turbo, here you are. Hey, we've talked about turbo, do you get it ? C'mon boy. This view is not familiar with 86. No, I'm not. Not familiar with it. Why is this intercooler set on the top ? Usually it's mounted in front. Is there any particular reason for it ? Latest TOYOTA cars have hot water temperature if you shade radiator, even if putting a very small oil cooler does raise the water temp. This is normal radiator with top mounted inter cooler. Because Rasty's is very fast (and powerful). I heard a minute and a sec, at Tsukuba. Tsukuba has very wide space due to it is circuit, Of course corner is also wide and we driver can push myself there. Gun-sai is totally different. Course is narrow and corners are tight.
09:31
That requires certain response, I believe. I think responses are OK, but suspension. Because it is now circuit setup. Point is suspension now. Oh, It reminds me an ancient turbo. It comes so sudden. Is the 450ps capable of TOUGE battle ? It punches at high-speed, but it needs more in lower speed. Or mid range. Tire is GOODYEAR as same as Revolution 86. Section time is quite close to it. I don't like this power delivery. It's kind a scary. The massive power comes suddenly. Max Orido, a monster tamer, gives gas to max. That's fun. It's very fun to control. Only a point annoying me is brake, maybe. It has bumpy behavior, but it wouldn't be fatal point. It clocks 26secs. Taniguchi start his attack after set-up. He makes short shift to use low and mid range avoiding high-speed peaky power. It's typical unruly babe. It clocks 26.664sec.
11:41
Cannot reach the time of Revolution with NA engine. 2nd car is Rasty. Turbo powered 450ps. I do mind about brake. This bumpy surface reveals the ABS weakness. So as the 1st one, Revolution. It spends too much time to wait actual braking after pumping the brake pedal. That it is. I can't stop screaming little. Oh, dear. If it locks the tire, that would be fine with that, but this one simply does not reduce speed anyhow. ABS interferes without any reducing speed process. It's not pumping brake pedal, is rather pumping a "switch" of ABS. I'm testing various friction materials, but not yet solved that. ABS interference tendency should be treated by makers. Sure. So we are looking forward to next model change, the brake allows sport driving. Engineers from TOYOTA may watch this. Please make the 86 better for sport. Mr.Tada, we're waiting for it. Throttle control point. Mr.Tsuchiya, you put very low point, didn't I? Isn't that too low ? Look at that, you gave so low. Well, if you evaluate total balance at the circuit, it must be very much fun.
12:50
But I would not prefer this for touge attack. Once it get boost and stabilize the pressure, the extended engine speed and power is remarkable. The surprising power stretches the speed with the sound Guoooo. It has tremendous power, maybe it is first time for me to drive 86 with such power. This unruly feeling, I love it. Well, I see what you guys felt. If you try this stage, adjusting final gear ratio may solve the engine hesitation at low speed. That's right. I tend to adjust that longer ratio for Tsukuba circuit. I guess the ratio may lead 3rd gear into drop zone of engine speed. Do you have further tuning plan for this 86 ? Well, if I could have enough confidence on drivetrain, maybe I can put more power on it. More power on it ? Yes, I want it more. Don't you make it easier to drive? More speed. I like that pump the gas, make faster. Yes, power, you mean power. No way. He doesn't listen to any advice. Great, that is why he is from Chiba prefecture. But that is also a great choice. Tuning car what it is.
13:54
It is very fast, but you have to be extremely careful attacking at TOUGE. Entry 3 NA 3 liter flat 6, Auto service Kanki. 3rd car of 86 joint test is engine swapped 86 3 liter NA flat 6. Here is Mr.Nagai from Osakan. What the hell is Osakan ? Osakan is Osakan. Offcial name is Auto Service Kanki. Au (to) Ser(vice) Kan(ki). So shortened form is Osakan. Is there any more staff ? Well I will take the other now on. It has appeared Hotversion once, flat 6 with 300ps. I remember, it wasn't in condition. Yes it was. Exhaust is capacity was not enough at a time, so I have changed exhaust, and air cleaners since then. Right. Look, it's flat 6. 6 cylinders. You mean further tuning since then are changing muffler and air cleaner. No, of course I change ECU as well. I see. 6 cylinder. It didn't go high speed at all at a time. At a time, limiter regulated the engine performance, so engine stopped in the middle of session. Now it runs to 8500rpm without any stress.
15:04
It runs to it. Certainly. Sure. Wow. Nice sound. It reminds me Porsche. I like this sound. Sounds so good. It is. Sounds so good. Well, you love 6-cylinder engine, don't you ? Yes. I used to have Supra, it was 6 cylinders. Flat 6 has similar crankshaft to straight 6 in its shape, so the sounds is also quite similar to straight 6. Why are you going to swap this ? I have considered when I should do. That is, now. Isn't that acceptable ? Well, how long did you give thought of that ? I have planed this through the night. This is the only chance I can say that. When is it ? That is, NOW. Kanki from Hyogo prefecture brings 3 liter flat 6. Engine is swapped to 6 cylinders, here we go. Sounds so nice. 7000rpm shift is maybe faster. Suspension is too soft makes me anxious. Gun-sai is a course that NA engine, lower torque fluctuation, is considered to be faster.
16:33
Maybe suspension is too limp. And this seat does not hold me tight, it's not really comfort. Section time is not much fast due to this footwork is not set for seriously attacking purpose. Engine runs without trouble today, anyway. This is maybe a grand tourer, that what I feel. I can't find out a reason to use 6 cylinders. And look at the steering. There is no accuracy in steering center. Taniguchi who owns supercharged 86 start testing this. Well, engine has good power. It has limp feeling in fact, but this set may fit Gunsai. Engine is attractive but it's not a cornering machine to grab up the time. Orido has good speed today shows maximum driving again. Look, isn't it great ? Is this because power delivery characteristics, it has good traction. This engine will become a strong equipment if suspension is firmly set. The results announcement time for Kanki from Hyogo.
18:53
Yes. Kanki. Osakan. Right, Osakan 86. Power feel is 85, 89, 90. You might want to say, be this really 3 liter ? I felt that how long do I have to wait for 8500rpm. When does it come ? That is, NOW. Checking tachometer, the torque at 5000rpm is very good. It has great kick at touching throttle. If you keep the engine high-speed that means your rev will be exceed the good torque band. It doesn't go but just moans. I see what you mean. OK, handling. 65, 95, 89. You gave higher point, Orido. I felt so comfortable and peaceful, maybe I rode this soon after the Rasty's one. Start attacking seriously, I found this soft setup would be fine with it. It doesn't sharp response in front, on the other hand, rear stays very stable wherever you drive. It gives secure feeling. You guys felt that. I would prefer normal. I tell you, the steering center seems so dull. To be honest, power steering assist ECU is not work active now.
20:01
That recognizes it is 100km/h all the time. Fixed at100km/h ? Assist is fixed at 100km/h speed. Power steering is little heavy all the time. Steering operation force is fixed at 100km/h now. Unfortunately I cannot do with that at this moment. I understand that. It does gaps very well. Right. It didn’t bother me at the gaps. What about brakes ? This one is the most comfortable one today. I can pump the pedal with confidence most. Well, that's it. I felt little anxious because it didn't have ABS. No, it doesn't. Without ABS, "That is my turn", that's it. But with this ABS, It doesn't stop. We cannot stay away from it. So I really feel secure in this one. Secure and peace. It was so good. Throttle control. 75, 80, 90. Taniguchi likes this, 90 point. As I have mentioned, this engine has very good feeling if you don't use high-speed. It gives good torque response. But it doesn't need upper 6500rpm. That is because its lower compression. If I could raise that to 12 to1 just like VTEC engines,
21:07
it should be capable of using upper speed more than 6500rpm, I guess. If I could have enough time to do that. Damn, you should. Sure, I'll try. Local tuning shop like Kanki comes appear to Hot-version that may encourage many other tuners not shown on media. Sure. When will you do the engine ? That is, NOW! Thanks again for doing that. Entry4 Seeking for ultimate AT 86, Amuse, 86 joint test, 4th entry is automatic transmission combined with turbo tuning. Here's Amuse86 and the tuner, Mr.Matsui. Automatic, that's new effort. Seems so nice, automatic. Good effort. I know 86 has very good AT. AT itself has high strength and durability. It adopts high engine output. Yes, it should be OK with 400ps. 400ps is enough for this. It's more than enough. It shows off its turbine than any other turbo cars. This is also in style. Beautifully finished, very fine. Thank you so much. Simply cool. Yes. This is not a set of turbo kit, all the short parts are one-off.
22:25
Maximum torque is currently 55kgm at 3400rpm that may slip torque converter because AT itself is kept normal. So I restrict the power to 400ps. I got it, understood. I restrict just a little. It past only a year since 86 and its tuning has started, but I have experienced all the turbo cars has turbo lag. Or I say response does not synchronize the throttle. Unfortunately, this one has that. I recognize that, but still struggle with it now. That is maybe a point how you can finish up, I mean 86 turbo tuning. I am going to ride this Amuse AT turbo. World fastest shift change speed of torque converter AT that is 86. How does it work ? Wow, must be kidding. Engine shows misfire then sudden power over steer occurs. It avoids serious crash by Dori-dori's recovery. This is strange, that is not should be. Unfortunately test is unfinished. Is 86 able to surpass S2000 ?
24:09
I tell you again,Gun-sai requires total balance. Yes. Of course power is in need, but you need to have chassis capability to use all the power, otherwise you will never clock 25sec. That is absolutely right. Requirement of Gun-sai, street, or winding road is that. Good example is Rasty, that is the fastest 86 in circuit. So the next theme would be this kind of winding road, such as turbo boost adjustment, power delivery characteristics. And I do thank Kanki to come appear to Hot-version today. There are so many tuning shops all over Japan, we like to develop 86 and 86 tuning with them.

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