Elizabeth & Neil Carman: Cosmic Cradle: Spiritual dimensions of life before birth

Elizabeth & Neil Carman: Cosmic Cradle: Spiritual dimensions of life before birth

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good morning thank you so much omniscient knowing everything is one omnipresence being everyone and everything and everywhere all at the same time this is the message of near-death experiences this is the message of pre birth experiences and
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this is who you really are at your deepest level at the core of your being and this conference is a celebration of that truth that message and we're also celebrating what happened in India on January 30th 1874 when a wise seer named Swami ramalingam left this physical
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world at the time of his death he did not leave behind a corpse he did not leave any physical remains all that his friends and family witnessed was a flash of pure light he attained what is called the light body and he demonstrated who
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he really was or is who we really are and this is what near-death experiences are teaching us about these higher states of consciousness and the pre birth experiences which we have been focusing on they are taking us to higher states of consciousness beyond the three common states that we were born experiencing waking
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sleeping dreaming or going beyond that and experiencing states of higher illumination and what we're focusing on are people who have natural pre-birth memories we call these people illuminated souls they have memory of being born they have memory of being in mother's womb they have memory of their
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biological conception memory of their existence as pure soul and these memories have been with them their entire life they were not elicited through some outside therapy or regression hypnosis although those are other ways that these memories can be accessed but we decided to focus on
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these people who came in with these memories in tact so what can this taboo subject of pre-birth memories teach us about higher states of consciousness what we're finding is that we're not learning anything new today in fact modern psychology has a long way to go to catch up with what the ancient
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psychologists and sages taught us what they cognized in the past and to begin with in the Buddhist tradition they talked about four levels of pre-birth consciousness from someone who has 100% memory while they're in the womb through the birth process and onward they remember who they are they remember why they were born what they're coming to do in this earthly life
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that was with them throughout the whole journey and then we have gradations of that down to someone that has no memory of that they recognize the person who has full conscious memory full pre-birth memory as a bodhisattva a bodhisattva is someone who lives in the spirit of love compassion patience generosity and we
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can even go further back in history even before the time of Buddha and we find that this ancient sage thousands of years before the Buddha Maharishi Patanjali who wrote the yoga sutras and you might think oh yoga sutras that's about doing some exercises but there's only two or three verses in the whole text that had anything to do with physical exercises he was a great psychologist who understood the human
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mind he understood from abnormal levels of thinking to the highest to the peak so the full range of human expression and in this particular text which is considered the Bible of human consciousness he speaks of pre-birth memories as being super powers super abilities a sign of human excellence so
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what we are finding by looking back in history particularly the Eastern tradition of spirituality is that pre-birth memories have been recognized as elevated states of consciousness whereas here in the West we know very little and we're starting to learn more but we know very little about the journey of our soul in fact in the last 1500 years this subject has been considered
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something to fear and there's been a lot of confusion and skepticism surrounding it and we are part of the program to help change that whatever way we can by sharing the research we have done and this morning we want to go into three different cosmic insights the pre birth experiences of the light the oneness and how to remember pre birth and these are
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people that we interviewed who have these natural memories the second insight memories of pre-birth planning and how to understand pre-birth planning from a higher perspective and three spiritual amnesia of our origins and the secrets to remembering pre-birth so let's begin with the first cosmic
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insight and we're going to share memories of people we interviewed and these stories are in our book cosmic cradle memories of that state of consciousness of that oneness of the light of that same experience that near-death errs report so what we find is we're just having a little blip of experience here in our human bodies prior to this there's an eternity and afterwards that eternity so it's just a
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small portion of our existence and as we listen to these memories even if you don't have pre-birth memories please imagine just for now that you are listening to your story you are listen you are I soul waiting to be born on earth and this is your journey and this is how these people are describing it it's coming from a dimension of eternity
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of everlasting of illumination of knowing that there one with everything knowing that they are unconditionally loved this these are the beautiful memories that people have of life before birth we'll begin with Lorenzo Caravela and he also had three near-death experiences so each time one of the people we
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interviewed has had a near-death experience we may talk about a little bit or we may not but we want to refer to that so that you realize they've also had that dimension of experience as well Lorenzo describes his pre birth experience as his senses all rolled up into one sense of being he said you don't really see hear taste touch yet everything
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exists for you and it was an experience where he felt totally unattached and everything was oneness a unity he also describes this vortex of creation and that when he came in to this incarnation that he came in through this vortex and in his three near-death experiences he said he traveled the opposite way through that vortex so he said it was
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like being born three times into the same body and each lifetime was a huge transformation and he preferred to use the word transmigration to describe the experience because it was he said he chose actually he chose these three near-death experiences that was part of his pre birth plan and he said he did
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that because each of those near-death experiences took care of one lifetime of karma and so he said he you just wanted to end this cycle of being born and birth and death over and over which he recalled lifetimes of and so he chose three times to have this experience the next person is my mother of six children
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her name is summer and she remembers past lives and she also had a near-death experience right at the time of coming out the birth canal and you can read the details of that in our book and she recalls coming from pure light state a dimension of pure light in between lives and she describes herself and says my individuality was barely audible yet I
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had a subtle feeling of myself there was still a subtle - identity ego an individuality I also felt the presence of God of not being one with God but being in God's room so to speak next we have the memory of Floyd Floyd is
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someone who remembers his past life as a Tibetan monk who fled Tibet during the escape into India and when he got into India he remembers the death in that past life he remembers the inter life journey and then coming into his mother's womb in this life and he chose a very difficult life he chose to be born in a conservative religious family
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in Utah or they didn't accept any of his spiritual memories and he had a very very difficult time and so we have all the details and book about that he describes being in the void and he said the void was a holy place that evil could not touch this
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realm it was he was light and felt the light had an intelligence and identity and at one point an uncontrollable emotion of gratitude just swept through him as he looked back he was reviewing all of his past lives in this inter life period and he said that all of his complexes all of his worries meant
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nothing they were nothing in comparison to this sense of belonging that he was experiencing this sense of perfect unity he said the mysteries of life were revealed to me yet it was too much to contain as if it were a storehouse of knowledge and power encompassing all points of time-space knowledge and a profound plan now let's go to India and
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we have Prashant who remembers his past life actually was like in the 1600s in Europe and he was up a monk a Christian monk and then he remembers the inter life period and coming back into this incarnation it's very interesting how he describes his memory he said it's like Google Earth or you're zooming in closer and closer and closer and he said he was
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aware he didn't have a body he was just a point of consciousness and when he got about a hundred feet above the ground his attention was on to a happy couple they were holding hands and singing in our marketplace and he zoomed in closer and closer to the woman and he entered her womb he remembers the clothing they were wearing the mother was wearing an orange
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traditional Indian sari and the father was wearing a light blue sweater and blue jeans when he came into the womb he said he looked up at his mother and it was if he was in a swimming pool and he was looking up through a luminescent fluid so he was born with this memory and thought what is this is this some dream he didn't talk about it until he was 17
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and he sat down with his parents and shared his memories and they were totally shocked because when the month when the couple was four months pregnant they were wearing those exact clothes they remember the exact date it was a friend's engagement ceremony that they had been to and it's the only time they held hands and sung a song in the South
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Delhi extension marketplace so Prashant said what a time for my soul to enter because his parents were very very happy on that day beautiful entrance and a beautiful validation they said they were wearing that exact clothing and pinpointed the day to the fourth month of pregnancy next we have dr. Cheryl Mackin and some of you may know dr. Cheryl because I'm sure she shared some
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of her near-death experiences here and she's never talked about her pre-birth memories until I questioned her I said Cheryl have you had any pre birth memories and she said well yes I have she hesitated a bit to share them but decided well this is the truth this is this is what I remember and I will share them because this is real she said I remember being in a different time space and dimension I was in the presence of a
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great light great light a wonderful warmth it was a place of the high hum of the universe and she was with little light beings like herself and they were not totally solid like people and they were filled with innocence and exhilaration like children getting ready to celebrate Christmas or go to a birthday party they had that kind of
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exhilaration and she said we were one we were we were all liked yet we were distinct from the light she said looking from where I am now it was like a wonderland surpassing anything that we know on earth to be loved everything was more pronounced like roses opening up and she said I don't have a description
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to properly describe it she said just to think about it just opens up her heart chakra she feels a floating feeling and she said wouldn't it be wonderful if everyone allowed themselves to remember when we get to this side she said most people get cut off or cut down if they talk about it so that's a beautiful
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story from Sheryl and we'll hear more Neil will be talking more about her pre-birth memories in the next section Diane cook is a beautiful spiritual healer here in the United States and what's interesting about Diana's she remembers going back to the ultimate source going back to the origin of the when her soul split off from source and she says when I was that flame that
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undefined unformed energy I only felt expansion and the truth of that I also remember the first time I dropped off from source and I chose to go down a separate path she felt a gravitational pull to go and a force to stay so there was a tugging in both directions because
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it was so perfect to stay there and yet the force to go was more important my soul's enthusiasm wanted to explore and it won over the safety and comfort of staying at the source and she said to know yourself to know who you really are you have to separate and then come back
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next we have Beverly Anderson Beverly was born with pre-birth memories and past life memories they were just kind of bubbling up in childhood she would wake up in the morning and look in the mirror and see a white face and a white body and say who what is this I'm used to being in a big dark body and male and she couldn't relate or she wouldn't wake up in the morning in bed and say well
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where are the servants where's my breakfast so she had remembered many glorious lifetimes and her memory was brought to a complete fruition through a near-death experience at the age of eight so she had some memories but at the age of eight she was riding a horse galloping and thrown off the horse her
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head hit a rock thrown off and she was in the hospital in a coma for three days during that NDE she said I saw all of my costumes and Neil won't talk about some of the costumes some of the lifetimes she saw the different lifetimes she saw the inter life planning between those lifetimes I said Beverly how far back does your memory go I remember coming from the
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all-that-is as a projectile of light I remember being spat out pushed like a projectile and I was screaming through the universe like a little spark of light a little star I clearly remember stars whizzing by but there was no sensation of movement there was no density no up-down no left no right no
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time no sensations of colors sound or heat I knew I was going somewhere I didn't know where just felt sheer acceleration unlimited possibilities that desire to explore so we'll hear more about her memories when Neil gets to tell you about that now we go to the next pre-birth memory of anelia Ben's
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anelia it was born with many many spiritual gifts and she's now in California but she was born in Chile to parents who were very well educated physicists she describes her journey from non singularity to singular human and she said it was going through multiple levels of vibration and so it
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began from non singularity in other words from oneness and from there to divine conscious awareness singularity to universal consciousness to sentient collective consciousness to species specific singularity to human collective singularity to singular human and her
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journey into mother's womb at the time of birth is quite dramatic and we'll leave that for you to enjoy and read on your own she also said that she never identified with any of these vibratory levels as she came in as they are all illusions when we hear about these pre birth memories we might ask well I wish I had one of those memories I wish I could
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remember myself as pure soul and it's never too late there's various ways we can have that memory activated there's different ways that we can connect and when I first encountered these pre-birth memories when I first started interviewing and hearing them they were not totally unfamiliar they were not foreign to me because at that time in my life I had already been meditating many years and actually
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teaching a meditation technique for 18 years so I was familiar with these higher states of consciousness not in the context of pre birth of course that was a new but to have the experience during a particular meditation and in meditation one experiences transcending beyond the thoughts beyond the thinking mind to experience the pure soul state
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and in some cases people experience pure light so if you're interested our recommendation is if you haven't had a pre birth experience is to set aside time on a regular basis and practice a daily meditation meditation is a very good tool for opening up your intuition opening up your awareness to higher
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realities to who you really are and at this point I want Neal to add some points about meditation from his personal experience in terms of pre birth thank you very much this has been a lifelong journey for Elizabeth and I I began to have intense and spiritual awakenings before I ever started meditation at the age of 25 almost 45 years ago someone gave me a copy of Yogananda's autobiography of a yogi'
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when I was in college and reading it I had many inner awakenings of living in the East and living in Tibet in India and seeing myself with dark hair and slanted eyes and so I came out of it wondering what am i doing in the West why am i living in a Christian family so at the age of 25 in Austin Texas I learned Transcendental Meditation my first experience I went into an
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explosion of light I realized I was pure light peace bliss silence when I came out of that 20-minute meditation I was speechless I really didn't understand what had happened to me except it was wonderful it felt like it was really really me but in this particular meditation program the emphasis wasn't
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on your inner experience it was on daily practice so over the years Elizabeth and I practiced that this meditation and and we've done a lot more than just Transcendental Meditation but about 10 years ago I also began to have a lot of past life experiences coming up very spontaneously and as I was growing up I was born right after right at the end of
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World War two August 11th 1945 and so every year on my birthday my mother would remind me with the dropping of the atomic bombs I was born and the war ended so little over ten years ago I had an experience of my death at Hiroshima has a child and wondering my parents had failed to protect me from this horrible death I did feel great forgiveness too not
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only my parents to the people in the plane that flew over and dropped the bomb I believe it was August 6 1945 - the people who built the atomic bomb - the United States government and the president that authorized the dropping of that bomb I felt total forgiveness to all of those people and it was a very very good feeling of having that I've had many
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recollections of past lives I don't really care to dwell on it I don't care to write about it I really am NOT interested in talking about it because right here and now is the most important thing so I've never been one to explore my past lives in any way but things do pop up so I've been kind of a closeted mystic most of my life and I don't talk about these things except to my wife and a few friends occasionally so it's with
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this understanding of insights into other states of consciousness participating in research and meditation that when she approached me in 1989 and we weren't married at the time about these experiences of pre-birth memories I vibrated in bliss and ecstasy that this is something that she needed to write a book about of course at the time I didn't know I was going to get pulled into a 25 year research project but I
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kept encouraging her to do that and so finally we joined forces and I'm kind of the intuitive mystical side that she would interview people and I would instantly resonate in bliss and get more questions for her to ask people about and so these people came to us we found them we didn't need to advertise one of the individuals was a retired military
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intelligence officer named Renny biker in San Antonio Texas and he had a remarkable pre-birth memory but he didn't know if it was true he saw himself has a soul in a robe with a group of guides and souls looking down through a portal like googling earth and
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he was shown three sets of parents that he could one of which he could choose but whichever one he chose his life path would be different the first two sets of parents he would be born into wealth and a fairly cushy life you could say life would be kind of like a bed of roses but then the third couple was different he was told life would be filled with trials and tribulations and it would be difficult to meet God's test so he asked
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this guide with him well will my reward at the end of that life be the greatest and he was told by the guide yes but that's your choice well I think that's the couple I want and the guide asked him again are you sure you want that third couple yes and again are you sure at that point he jumped into this portal and he came down through this candy cane like vortex tunnel and then he's a
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little boy and at the age of seven one of his questions to his mother was was I placed with you and dad in a car and his mother said now Rennie we don't talk about bad things like that so he didn't know if this was really true or not was it just an imagination or a memory so at the age of 25 he was very
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puzzled by this videotape going in his mind all the time is it true that I had this pre-birth memory he didn't know what it was he was in a very conservative Christian family he wasn't told about this and he was not encouraged to talk about it so at the age of 25 he flies home and he wants to confront his parents how was I conceived in 1929 and his parents say we don't remember what if I supply the details
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was it in the front seat of that 1918 overland sedan this is a 1918 overland sedan and his and and the mother had it been described as turning around before they had sexual intercourse and looking in the backseat because his little sister was there she was about 3 or 4 years of age at the time and she was sound asleep and this was out in that
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rural area up near San Antonio Texas so nobody was around obviously so his parents confirmed yes we are pretty certain that you were conceived in the front seat of that car we don't know how you can possibly understand or remember this his parents were baffled our parents usually do not tell us how any of us are conceived but that was a confirmation to Renny that his pre birth
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memory was true and that he chose a life with a lot of difficulties near-death experiences and surgery he lost children he lost two of his three wives many many tragedies but he knew that he had chosen all of this so we're just kind of summarizing this a little bit
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because there was there's so much to talk about he had another validation that is when he was in surgery in the 1990s we need already had a lot of difficulties and he realized that well if I chose these difficulties then I'm ten steps ahead of most people because I agreed to go through this so I am NOT a victim this is not an accident there's a
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purpose to this so we always maintained a sense of humor and one of his difficulties was a near-death experience he had open-heart surgery and for him it was not easy because he was a big man six foot five and he recalls the surgeon telling one of the nurses look we don't have for a clamps big enough to open his chest up go down to the furniture store
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it gets some heavy-duty clamps so he joked with the surgeon afterwards about what happened in his surgery and that one of the surgeons was betting he wasn't going to survive but during that surgery he had a very powerful near-death experience he encountered what his deceased son who had left behind two grandchildren for Rennie to
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finish raising and again Rennie wasn't sure did I really meet my departed son or not well his son gave him a secret about gifts that had been hidden at the hangar out at their ranch that nobody knew about gifts for the boy and gifts for that girl the grandchildren and the gifts had been hidden away because his son felt
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like my wife might throw these out and my son and daughter will never get these gifts so he hid them away nobody knew this and then Renny before he left this visitation experience with his son he told him he said I don't want to go back to Earth he said life down there means less than a burnt cigarette he didn't he didn't want to go back and
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his son said dad you have to go back because you still have a body I don't I can't go back for the children you agreed to that and so he said when you pass over here I will be waiting to greet you so when Rennie was home and he was recovering he finally got out of bed within a few days and he staggered out to the hangar now
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realize that this man had flown for nearly 50 years of his life we believe he was a reincarnated German fighter pilot from World War one we're not sure who but he had memories of flying these biplanes in a war and being shot down and he had German ancestry and at the age of about 15 he couldn't resist flying and he went into the Air Force at an early age and
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he didn't participate in any combat he was in military intelligence but he flew for 50 years of his life and he set many records so when he went out to that airplane hangar his wife was following him wondering is he going to fly he just had heart surgery he did later on anyway he found the box and he found that there was a gift for the grandson which was a train set and there was a gift of German dolls for the for his grand daughter so and there was
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a message in there to him from his departed son who had died a number of years earlier so he proved to himself that his meeting of his son and his near-death experience was real it was a validation and he had many validations in his life but anyway another interesting case that we encountered is a young woman who's about thirty years of age named Elizabeth here in
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California she told her mother at around the age of two mummy I was in your tummy twice in this lifetime and what happened is she recalled and this carriage that had happened a few years earlier and she told her mother I was in your tummy twice the first time I went down the
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drain and the second time I came out like a zipper so what happened in the first in the first case was the parents had a horrible argument about whether the little boy in the room would be circumcised and the mother said absolutely not over my dead body will my boy be circumcised and the father said well I don't want a boy that looks weird in the boys locker room growing up yes he will be circumcised the next morning
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the miscarriage happened so Elizabeth's soul said look I need these parents to stay together not divorce so she terminated the pregnancy and then she came back as a girl a few years later and and she had different choices that she was shown of parents and again she wanted these two parents for certain energetic reasons and that these parents were her a plus plus choices there were
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other choices and she met a form us form when she was in between waiting to determine am I going to try to reincarnate with these parents or some other parents so she went back into the same parents but this time she's a girl and then six hours into the labor she said that she made the conscious decision to flip and to go breech and her mother had been planning the first child would be a natural birth uh-huh
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didn't happen Elizabeth was in control complete control so anyway that was a very interesting story because her mother fun realized why the miscarriage had occurred and that it was not her fault it was not the father's fault that's the way things happen but she made this this girl made a choice has a soul to come back but to be a girl instead of a boy
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so why do our souls leave the higher world for difficult life we don't have as much time left as we thought but Cheryl Mackin is one of the cases that we found out about and she said that there's a whole different side of choosing from the higher realm compared to what happens when she r in the body and she was looking down like googling earth and what she was shown is that she could be born into a family that
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wouldn't love her and she said that's an exciting experiment okay that she could participate in and maybe I could turn that around maybe I could flip it so she chose to be born into a very difficult family birth circumstance very difficult and yet she smiles today she talks about it with great humor and and that story is in that book she said that from this
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earthly side though she never would have chosen that family down on this level but it was from a higher level that that choice was made Beverly Anderson is another one and she in a nutshell chose a very difficult life in has an Appalachian woman and mother in the Civil War and had a group of four children and she her her husband abandoned her she watched the children
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die or a few of them escaped and grew up but she starved to death at the age of 42 and she had lived a series of lives where a lot of things were given to her but she had done some abuse of others and she needed to learn gratitude for her life so she chose a very difficult life has an Appalachian poor mother with four
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children and abandonment so after that life she realized that that was a gift to that her soul needed to learn that experience and so she returned in 1954 and we met her in Austin Texas she's an amazing person and she's brought a very highly evolved son into the world and so there's more about her in the book this
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is a little bit of some pictures from Appalachian this is not her but the the building that that they had the home was dirt floor very very difficult and and she was illiterate so it was a very difficult circumstance that you know it's hard to imagine how we can choose these very difficulties very challenging lives okay I think that so basically the
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message that Beverly wanted to share with us is that we are co-creators we are not that we are learning from whatever happens to us in life that these are not accidents and that we need to take advantage of these lessons these tests Lorenzo who we spoke about earlier he called life a divine experiment and he
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was a very enlightened being who came in with pre-birth memories he meditated through his life a very involved person he wrote a book the mouth of God and yet he he died a few years ago but he was friends of ours said he was in great bliss even though he had this cancer that had come back after his third near-death experience and he was telling these people that well you know maybe I
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have this this suffering in the body but I am in bliss and that's how we went out so now Elizabeth will make a few more comments about cosmic insights move quickly through this third cosmic insight spiritual amnesia of our origins and secrets to remembering pre-birth basically what's happening is there's
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forgetfulness starting in the womb at the time of birth what we're focusing on here is information that comes from ancient scriptures in India such as the garbha Upanishad Garba means womb and in this ancient text it's described the whole fetal development physically and psychologically that the fetus is not some ball of flesh but it's actually living being up with a personality and
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feelings and at three weeks the soul anchors once the heart starts to beat according to these ancient scriptures that's the sign that the soul has entered I believe from what I have learned from other sources of information is that it does become more intensified or concrete as the pregnancy advances but there is some anchoring subtle anchoring in this text they also
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explained that as the baby is floating in the amniotic fluid it begins to review its past lives and it starts to lament to some degree oh no not again I've done this before not again and when the baby is born well actually it cries out to God and says please help me I'm caught and I've just come from the life
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that I've come from the bliss and now I'm trapped in this prison cell and everywhere I move it's I'm constricted and so the the unborn in this according to this text is taught to meditate taught to realize that it's a spiritual being having a human experience and it's given a primordial sound so hum meaning I am pure consciousness I'm not just this physical body and mother's womb and
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so the little baby settles down and relaxes and at the time of birth unfortunately the whole thing flips around and the trauma of the birth we find the baby is not saying so hum it's saying quiet quiet or CO hum Kol hum which in Sanskrit means Who am I Who am I it forgets and starts identifying with all of our aspects of ourselves I am male I am female I'm a teacher I'm a
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mother I'm a father all the different roles and characteristics and what's interesting this we in our book we give other examples of descriptions of how memory fades away and we forget but I like this one it's more complete and also it kind of makes us wonder well what does it mean when the baby is kicking in the womb perhaps that's the time when it's remembering the past lives and in expressing some resistance
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I'm just making an interpretation here one possible one or when the baby is sucking the thumb and we can see how these ultrasound pictures babies sucking the thumb seeking some comfort some nourishment or when the baby's scratching its head thinking about those past lives Oh what did I do and oh my goodness I gotta go and do it again so that's something to think about from these ancient scriptures they may be
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revealing more to us than then we would expect also according to this tradition the soul is located in the subtle heart and so when the heart first starts to beat that's when the soul comes in and it remains in that position in the heart and we'll go through a few slides here there's the heart there right around the third rib and right here we'll go quickly just to give you an idea of
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different angles now we want to talk about how to overcome the spiritual amnesia and I want to share one one possible Avenue that that could happen through this ancient text we mentioned earlier the Yoga Sutras and according to this ancient sage when the virtue of Aparri graha is established which is a virtue of loving kindness of compassion and love for others and not clutching on
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to accumulating and hoarding objects so a paragraph when one is established in that virtue when that happens in our evolution then we will naturally remember the past lives the pre-birth state all of the journeys of our soul and even future life so it has kind of a parallel to the bodhisattva idea from the buddhism we mentioned earlier paragrah has someone who is able to let things go if they get
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some new things they can let go of the old things and they don't accumulate more than they need also there are more generous generous donating volunteering sharing what they have and I know we're running out of time so let's just quickly review the highlights of what we've shared with you this morning we've talked about people with natural pre-birth memories of the light the
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oneness and we've talked about meditation as being one way that we can remember that we've talked about the challenges of pre-birth memories people that have chosen very challenging memories I've been challenging lives and why they chose them and we've also shared with you some examples of how the amnesia happens according to this tradition from India and there's other examples in our book and the secret to remembering it in terms of developing
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certain virtuous virtuous characteristics so to close I just want to share a beautiful quote from the Sufi poet Rumi he said where did I come from and what am I doing here I have no idea my soul is from elsewhere and I am sure
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that and I intend to end up there so we thank you all so much and we'll be happy to answer any questions at the bookstore after lunch because we're running late right now thank you so much you

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