What Really Makes You Ill? with Authors Dawn Lester and David Parker

What Really Makes You Ill? with Authors Dawn Lester and David Parker

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hi and welcome everyone amanda vollmer here from yum naturals emporium and i have a special treat for you i will be interviewing david parker and dawn lester of this wonderful book called what really makes you ill why everything you thought you knew about disease is wrong now my understanding is that this took quite a number of years to compile and if you read it as i've been reading through it in in chapters and and going into depth in it it's very needy
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and it's not something you write overnight uh my understanding uh is that it took about 10 years to write this magnum opus and would you like to tell my viewers just about uh what how that was for you both and uh and by the way welcome because i i'm so excited for this interview because i love your book i love this topic it's a topic that i've been passionate about for a number of years you know what is really going on with
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disease as a as a holistic practitioner you know i see this day in and day out and when you start to apply the logic of the body being intelligent and thinking about toxicology instead of some sort of mysterious germ you get the results you're looking for so there's also a lot of clinical evidence you know from day to day that i know you know the germ theory is is false not just in that alone i would know it never mind the rest of the research but you've done all of this research so why don't you
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tell us how that was for you what the process was like for building this incredible book okay uh yes uh thank you um yes you're quite correct it did take uh 10 years 10 years of research for the two of us so a lot of work went into the book um we didn't intend it to be that way and we didn't set out to rubbish the medical establishment it's just that some anomalies had come up in our personal lives mine in particular with friends and
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family been diagnosed with various cancers over the years prior to writing the book and they all went down the official medical route with what they were being prescribed to do with the normal treatments and things and they all died unfortunately which is uh apart from one relative um i'm talking about six different people here close family and relatives uh but one relative an elderly lady didn't take the prescribed treatments
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although she'd been diagnosed with cancer in the same sort of geographical area and she survived fine she'd have nothing to do with the medical establishment and she was fine and after a year or so because they kept testing her um they were able to tell her that uh their cancer had completely disappeared so that was the first sort of uh i thought okay so everyone that did what the medical establishment said died and the one that didn't do what the medical establishment lived so that was the first wake-up call there's something wrong here
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um but also uh dawn and i had written a couple of books uh before this tome um and one of them was about the nature of reality uh but we wrote under a pen name then which was nor the nature of reality so it was a non-medical book it was about you know big questions in life you know is there a purpose to life why we're here what happens to us when we die those sorts of things um which have been a passion of mine in particular for many many years um but there was one chapter in that
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which was about health and how it figured in the nature of reality and human life and in particular a chapter about viruses and we realized we didn't really know very much about viruses at that time so come back quite a number of years now probably 15 years um so we started researching it and by purely by chance we came across the first disease that we looked at which was hiv aids and up until that point
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we believed what everyone else believed you know that germs made you ill germs have one sort or another whether it's bacteria or viruses and most diseases were caused by them their vaccinations were good for you and prevented you getting these diseases that's that's what we believed and when the hiv aids thing hit the scenes you know in the 80s um we believed what the medical establishment was telling us and the media in particular with all the dreaded imageries of mass graves and tombstones it was dreadful
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friend everyone um but we thought they knew what they were talking about but as we found out when we started the research nothing could be further from the truth we realized that the medical establishment was not based on science it was based on assumptions and uh dogma and uh that none of the things that we thought we had been told about disease was all wrong hence the title of the book we sort of titled it in the way we started that we wanted to know then what really did
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make you ill and why everything we thought we knew about disease was wrong because that's what we were finding out but as i say the first disease we looked at was hiv aids and we wanted to know what was the cause of it but it didn't take too long and not too much research although we spent quite a lot of time on it which would detail in the book we realized that there was no virus that was the course of it there was nothing proven uh there were no scientific papers to show that a virus
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uh was the cause and uh we sort of read the reports from other sort of luminaries like carrie mullis who was around at the time and was very vocal about it and he also looked for any scientific papers and realized like i was there there weren't any so again that was we thought this is very strange why are there no scientific papers to show that this virus has been isolated and fully categorized and proven to cause the disease you know they should be there and they weren't um so the more
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we did more digging and realize that getting a very long story short because we we went to lots of meetings with people vocal uh people who were vocal about it dissidents were read reports from people like carrie mullis peter giusberg and others talked to doctors uh talked to hiv supposedly hiv positive people who thought they were hiv positive because they didn't know the flawed test which was being used on them like now um so we spent a lot of time
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looking at that and we realized that there were very straightforward reasons for why for what was actually happening um i'll be brief but um we realized that this small at the time small group of uh homosexual men in the san francisco area that were first supposedly manifesting this disease um it was not down to it wasn't a disease at all their illnesses were easily attributable to their lifestyles and i'm not talking about them being homosexual men that had
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nothing to do with whatsoever but they did all use uh recreational drugs they're quite heavy users of recreational drugs in particular what we call poppers which is uh quite a toxic drug it's a amyl nitrate it's very toxic to the body and of course this was making them ill but then they were going to the doctors who were then giving them high dose and repeated doses of antibiotics which made them even more ill and then the doctors were thinking they were seeing some sort of new disease
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and so they started to try different drugs out on these unfortunate men uh one of which was a zt or azt as it was called in the states uh which was originally a chemotherapy drug nothing just so you know as the medical establishment often do they've got something on the shelf that's laid around for a while let's try this um which is what they did and um talking to other doctors later we've uh some german doctors uh we realized and they told us that
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at the dose that these unfortunate men were given this high dose azt it killed everyone everyone that had that rate died and i'm talking about people like freddie mercury and rudolph nuriaf and arthur ashe you know so a lot of famous people died obviously quite needlessly because it was the drug that was killing them now the medical establishment realized this and of course although they never admitted to it openly naturally um but it did come out some doctors were honest and
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our research showed us what was really going off um so in subsequent years they obviously the doctors reduced those doses of azt to a much lower dose i think they still prescribe it it's still toxic and it still doesn't do any good it just takes really longer to kill people uh i guess so that was the first one so we spent quite a lot of time on it and dawn and i realized that uh what we said to one another if they can be so wrong about this one thing
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what else are they wrong about and that was really the start of disappearing down this very deep rabbit hole which took ten years of research because there's probably people that have listened to us before they know that neither dorne or i are from a medical establishment i mean i'm an electrical engineer and dawn's an accountant but uh and people often say well how can we writing about these medical things and uh the answer is easy really for the reasons we got into it as i've just mentioned
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uh accidentally really but because we both have technical backgrounds so we're used to doing research uh we're used to paying great attention to detail and we're used to asking questions regardless of what people might think of us um and unlike doctors we could ask the questions they were afraid to ask otherwise they lost their jobs as some have but we we had no allegiances to anyone so we could ask any questions we liked and we did even as we met doctors and challenged them
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over these things and of course they couldn't prove us wrong so that was the start of it so because we could see that there was a lot of things wrong with what the medical establishment was telling us we thought well we need to go back to square one or go back to quite an early date and see how all this started and of course it started with really the germ theory and so we're going back about 150 years ish um and the sort of person most uh sort
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of known for the germ theory is uh it's called louis pasteur although he wasn't really the first but he seems to get attributed to him and he had the most to say about it and developed it um but i mean he was a chemist he wasn't a doctor he wasn't even a proper scientist and as later years have shown um he was somewhat of a fraud you know much of what he wrote and claimed uh as proved to be untrue but the world
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is still suffering from it and other scientists uh around at the time knew there were great problems with what louis pasteur was saying but he got the ear of some very influential people in france and um so they sort of the usual thing is they ignore the truth and just go with what's uh suitable for the regime at the time uh and of course we had then um a growing uh the start of a what has now become the pharmaceutical industry
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um so wherever you've got something that you could kill supposedly uh germs of one sort or another either bacteria or as as they later came to be known in the 1930s uh viruses um but they were seen as something that would attack the body and uh therefore needs to be killed um with various lotions and potions and later vaccinations of course um and so this became a huge industry that
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it is today uh making billions um all based on a fallacy uh because as we dug deeper and deeper and deeper and realized that there was no scientific evidence to prove either bacteria were the cause of any diseases or the so-called viruses and as people probably know the word virus actually comes from the latin and its original meaning was a poison or toxic material so it was nothing to do with an organism
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a supposed microorganism which they didn't even know existed until the 1930s when the electoral microscope was invented and they could see these smaller particles in tissue and the blood and they made the second big mistake which was to see these small particles and start to attribute other diseases to them which they couldn't blame on bacteria they could see bacteria which are living
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organisms of course they could see them with their optical microscopes but they couldn't see these smaller particles which then they gave this name virus to which is a misnomer really but that's stuck with it and we we live with that today so that's really two big mistakes first they saw bacteria and whenever they looked at them in a supposedly diseased person they saw these bacteria clustered around dead or dying tissue
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and assumed that they were the causes of the dead and dying tissue instead of realizing that they were actually part of the cleanup mechanism and we're actually getting rid of the dead and dying tissue in the same way as bacteria does in the forests you know with dead trees and vegetation they break it down into its component part so it can return to the earth and be useful and it's the same in the human body the body has trillions of bacteria both in it and on it which are all doing a special job without them there would be no life we
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would die um so but as i say that was their first mistake in attributing disease to bacteria and then later to viruses and that's just the paradigm that we're locked into now and of course then the i won't call it a science but the methodology of virology came along and which is a a whole industry that's grown up around this same fallacy and there are many others like ourselves that have
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investigated virology and realize that again there is no scientific basis for them being able to attribute any disease to a so-called virus and again like us many people have looked for the scientific papers um to substantiate the claim that virologists make they don't exist and many doctors including modern day doctors like dr andy kaufman dr tom cowan and others have also looked
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for these papers and they don't exist and they've been challenged to produce them and many people around the world have written to their health authorities and governments under the freedom of information act to ask for the proof you know where is your scientific evidence that uh particularly with the so-called coronavirus where is your scientific evidence that this virus is the cause of this supposed disease and in every case and we have copies of most of these papers there's dozens and dozens of them
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in every case the authorities have written back and said we do not have that information which sort of beggars belief doesn't it you know they openly admit they don't have the scientific information yet they continue to shut the world down uh on the basis that they do know uh that this this exists and causes this uh covid19 which of course it doesn't it's a complete fiction uh and we we have looked into the reasons behind this and we may get into it later
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in the chat if you wish we do start to touch on it vested interests in our book but of course our book doesn't cover coronavirus specifically because at the time we released it which was christmas of 2019 um i would nobody heard of it and often said to us oh it's very fortuitous that you released your book just as this was released the coronavis was released on the world and we said well yes if you believe in coincidences which
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we don't um but uh you know theoretically we we didn't know the name of it because no one else did but that doesn't uh denigrate anything we've written because it applies what we found applies to all so-called viral diseases and that is there is no proof absolutely no proof whatsoever that any virus caused any disease and of course we came across the work of people like dr stephen lanker who i'm sure many people have heard about and we have been
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fortunate enough to be able to chat to him a few times now and we plan to do some more talks to try and help sort out this uh nonsense that's going on at the moment but um he again is on the record he used to be a virologist he was trained as a virologist uh he doesn't like to be called that anymore because he realizes that virology is um is not a science at all it's just a methodology which is very flawed and has been proven that the stuff they do in
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their petri dishes in laboratories bears little or no resemblance to things that are happening in the body and that's why there is so much so many fallacies that come out of the laboratories and so many predictions which cannot be proven um about disease um so really that's that's how we got into it i know that's a rather convoluted answer but that's how we got into it and uh and because we realized that it was so astounding to us
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um that we needed to be accurate because we we knew that we were going to be going straight up against the entire medical establishment with what our findings were showing so we knew that we had to be accurate with what we said and so that's why in the book as you've probably seen there's 40 pages of citations so that people can see where the research we did where it came from because we looked as i say right back over the last 150 years the work of many doctors in the past and
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scientists [Music] which all substantiate what was said and continued to do so so that's why it took 10 years and we're sort of quite happy and even this no one has been able to disprove what we've said and uh i'm pleased to say that more and more doctors now are speaking out and uh confirming that the germ theory is a fallacy and has no basis in science and the causes
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of disease are many but none of them are to do with germs and we do obviously talk in the book about what the causes of diseases are illness we rather like to talk about them as illnesses rather than diseases because this is a loaded word and people immediately think it's some sort of infectious agent involved and there are no infectious agents people are generally poisoned or it's lack of nutrition and in our book we talk about obviously
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what the real causes we found what the real causes of disease are and we boiled it down to four factors which we can again talk about um so that's really what got us going and uh why we spent so long doing it but i i know you have some specific questions you like to ask us so i probably should let you ask us some of those questions rather than me keep talking well it's it's it's fascinating the way that our our clear thinking mind will work we're inquisitive
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by nature so we start to ask questions or we see something in our reality that just doesn't line up and if we are if we are the type of individual that wants to know that's a seeker that's interested then we go well why did that happen now i have to ask that question and then the question you know begets another and begets another and that's how you get into the knowledge base and a lot of people they don't they aren't inquisitive types they don't ask questions they don't go well why you know why did that kill my loved one
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you know what or why am i seeing this similar theme about people dying when they take azt and then you know they don't a lot of people just are very um focused on what's before them they aren't inquisitive i think that's got us in a lot of trouble as as a as a humanity um but that's the journey for a lot of us where we're like this isn't lining up the story isn't holding water over time so i have to ask questions and that's a lot of people ask me how do i help people get out of this
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stuck thinking that they're gonna die from the air you know that they breathe and i say well you have to get them thinking you have to ask questions don't tell them let them start to ask that for themselves so they get their their mind moving forward and the other great thing i noticed when i was reading through your book is that you aren't indoctrinated into the medical field so you don't have to unschool yourself so you're coming in purely without the the deep indoctrination i went through medical school i had to do
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undo a lot of thinking that a lot of my colleagues are still stuck on right so that also was a process for me where you didn't have to go through that undoing process you just had to undo the cultural beliefs around those things right but you didn't get the deeper med school indoctrination which is can be very difficult to work around especially if you're going against your colleagues and you're feeling like you're going to be marginalized or attacked and all of these sorts of things which you know i'm writing a book about cults right now and how the medical establishments run basically like a cult so you're not
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allowed to ask questions in a culture you're not allowed to come out of the cult think that way so a lot of the practitioners are trapped and so the fact that you were you know clear thinkers like that and inquisitive really helped you as well have a clear book where you know people can get outside of that cult thing the other thing i find fascinating about the way you present the information is obviously it's it's loaded with references and and scientific fact however you're very very logical
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and i i appreciate that because it it is just a logical thought that how about we clear up assumptions because this is an assumption with no scientific back backing this is an assumption with no scientific backing and i love that about the book because it makes you go yes that's true i haven't seen any signs about that they had to go from this to that now maybe they're trying to make up science about the next leap they made but they didn't qualify the in-between for example i want to ask you you know about virus mechanism because
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they even say a virus is not living it doesn't move it needs mechanisms of a cell in order to reproduce itself but they never in your book you say they never qualify how does the non-living thing suddenly attach itself to a cell there has to be a mechanism involved that mechanism then has to make that material somehow animated for it to go through its reproductive cycle but science doesn't qualify that it doesn't say well this is exactly how
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that that happens here's how it attaches it's left up to this randomness right so there's big gaps in the knowledge um so they say it's non-motile but that it can hitchhike onto a cell so how how and they don't do that uh information and they they don't have the scientific evidence and i i notice that all the way through so so the question is first of all how did they go from understanding that you know a wound on your skin if you put somebody
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else's material inside you you'll get sick right like somebody else's cells and somebody else's blood somebody else's cellular products you will go through a reaction to that because it's not you but how did they go from well that's toxic and that's what we're calling a virus to now it's all of a sudden a creature a thing that can float around and miraculously turn into a disease of some sort and that they're characterizing one disease for one virus because that the uh
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teasing out the whole virus lie is i think is very foundational for people especially right now to understand that there's no science there's no logic even in that those little steps towards the bigger claim do you know what i'm saying so what what kind of evidence and information did you find around around that and where was the thinking to switch all of a sudden from it's a toxin now it's a virus that infects you because there's a big leap there as well
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well it's changes in uh definitions it's the way people look at things um one of the people who we've referred to was a biologist lynn margolis who said that uh you know a virus is inert it's you know it's not alive doesn't have any of the requisites for being classed as alive so you know it's it's non-living um we then found um a number of different papers uh that were discussing these
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so-called virus sorry so-called particles called viruses and they were suggesting that they were somewhere in a gray area between um you know non-living and and alive or something so uh it's a question of trying to direct the narrative because a non-living particle doesn't quite make sense how it would actually move between people and as you say you know what's the mechanism for um traveling from one person to another it's got to be alive
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in order to um go from one person to then burrow into you and then cause some kind of disease so yeah so yes and then get into the cell um so somehow they somebody realized that you know being non-living that that doesn't work so they've got to try and suggest and change the evidence to um or change the definition of the word so that they can suggest to people it's it's manipulating how people think what they um you know what they know or what they
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think they know and so that people can say oh well yes yes it's a living thing and therefore it's going to you know burrow into you know burrow into me but as you say the it's supposed to use the host cell mechanism um but because this then gets rather technical um i i believe that the kind of general public aren't prepared to do that that work to look at any of the scientific evidence because they think oh no no it's it's beyond me and that's part of that's
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part of the plot as well because you know to make it sort of mystif mystified and you know well it's you know it's scientific so you know you people you don't know it and you know you haven't trained like us it's you know there's probably quite a bit of that as well um but again as well as as you said before you know we didn't have to unschool ourselves but we also had to get through that barrier of thinking well these you know the scientists these doctors they've trained they know what they're talking about and we're now
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saying well actually do you or you know so that was quite a hurdle for us as well um so but the more we looked into it the more we realized that you know we had to stop thinking more than the authority and just look at it uh with common sense and logic and um and that's where we came across these knowledge gaps and that's where we said well not just what we thought were knowledge gaps there are admitted knowledge gaps you know they sell um so many papers we've come across
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at the conclusion they they come well the you know we're not quite sure what this how this happens how this works you know more research is needed part of that is of course to make sure that they continue uh getting the research funding and they're continuing their careers or well we need to look into this some more um but at the same time it draws question marks over what they say or what they claim they're found and we think well if they're not sure then they can't make
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those statements as if they are sure and so um you know the idea that there are these virus particles traveling in the air going from one person to another in you know when they sneeze or whatever it's never been observed never been demonstrated they talk about how uh the sort of if not somebody sneezes or coughs the how far that uh the part particles sorry the the actual if you like water particles can can go
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you know can be spread so that's that's if you like a distance or well but there's an assumption that the virus is in these you know sneeze droplets if you like it's never been proven there is absolutely no paper no evidence anywhere that um so-called virus particles have been found in these droplets they've tried in the past i mean the 1980 flu uh so-called spanish flu in which we investigated and write about i mean the medical establishment in
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america tried on many occasions to see if they could actually cross infect people uh in various trials you know where they took groups of people that were supposed to have the flu and tried to transfer it to groups of healthy people you know in quite disgusting ways really you know taking this is not snot and saliva from the unhealthy people and introducing it into the nasal and throats of the healthy people and they tried this dozens and dozens of times
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even blood as well and never once were they able to cross infect anyone so they've never then or since or at any time been able to prove this fallacy of infection which is hardly surprising if the very things that they say cause the infection i.e viruses or bacteria don't if they don't cause infections how can they ever prove infection and as our research showed there is that is a complete fallacy you know you
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cannot infect someone with these agents you can poison people with things but you can't infect them with a bacteria or virus and to answer your question that you started with these particles and we like to call them that because as soon as you mention virus everyone's got fixed ideas about what they are but these particles are just really cellular debris and that's all you can ever see under an electron microscope because under an electron microscope everything has to be dead it's fixed and
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it's in black and white and it's flat you know they're just flat images and no one has been able to observe sort of any of these particles uh infecting a cell you know they may see what appears to be something as they say budding out of the cell but they never know whether it's actually budding out of a cell or going into a cell or indeed what it is and there's other theories about these cellular particles and
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some talk about exosomes um but again when they talk about exosomes they talk about them as beneficiary uh beneficial things but again there's no scientific evidence for any of these so-called particles to be active in anything and certainly not to be infectious agents so we've often liked it likened it to imagining a small piece of glass that you drop on the floor and it breaks into a dozen pieces or more um which is a cell when it breaks up
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and but then you've got virologists come along and they start looking at these broken pieces which are all different shapes and sizes and then they start giving names to the individual pieces and attributing causes to each other and it's it's very similar to that but again no proof so they're just assumptions and dogma based on uh faulty methodology and as i said earlier there is nothing that happens in a virology lab in their petri dishes that can be likened
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exactly to what's happening in the human body there's no comparison and i also find it fascinating that they look at things with staining methods and under heat and um they tend to alter the particles before they even visualize them so they make assumptions there as well that they i mean how do they know they haven't fundamentally altered those particles into something completely else so not visualizing it in the living blood exactly and and they do this all the
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time you're quite correct they're staining and fixing agents they introduce antibiotics quite often and uh sort of cellular other cellular material from uh bovine cells monkey cells they do all sorts of things to in their petri dishes um so it ends up a cocktail and like any cocktail you've got a complete mixture of stuff and so how anyone can derive anything scientific
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from that is impossible i mean we looked back because it was actually suggested we did by adult stephen lanka when we talked to him once he suggested we looked at the enders and peebles paper of 1954 i think it was when some of the original tests were done in petri dishes supposedly finding what the measles virus was and as we know i think most people know the story that and dr stefan lank was able to prove
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that in a german court that there is no proof that there is a virus causes measles but it all stems from those original papers of 1954 and the anderson peoples uh who were conducting those tests if you read the papers they say themselves and when you see what they were doing in their peter dishes it was a complete cocktail and they say them basically say themselves this doesn't prove anything and further research is needed but that basic paper of 1954 is what all modern day virology is based on
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so it was based on a shifting you know sand as it were it was not based on anything sound and this again was something that uh dr stephen lanka pointed out in the german court um so you you've got one fallacy based upon another and this is what modern virology is um and it's it's a real tragedy that uh obviously for financial reasons uh the pharmaceutical company companies have based all of their
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multi-billion pound industry on this fallacy because it's very profitable for them of course but but it it it's not based on science and this is what we found time and time again and to sort of test what we were coming across during our research with human anatomy if you like and human disease we wanted to see whether it was also true then in animals and so we started to look at animal diseases too to see whether there was something different
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uh and it wasn't it was exactly the same so which is reassuring of course um that the same fallacies that were being used about uh human diseases uh was true of animal diseases we always found in every case there was a much more plausible reason as to why the animals got sick you know and it was invariably something they were poisoned with and we do cite one case because it was particularly famous in the uk and i'll mention it now because uh it's one i quite like
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um and that was what was called became called mad cow disease in the uk and uh bse as it's officially known and uh when we looked at that rather than it being some infection as we were told um it was purely to do with how the government and the government ministries insisted in the uk and how cattle were washed dipped to supposedly protect them from wobble fly um but they used a strength of organophosphate which was four times the strength of
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anywhere else looking phosphate is you know is a neurotoxin and it was seeping into the spinal columns of the cows where they washed down with it and gave them the appearance of going mad because they were losing bodily control of their limbs and then were being slaughtered and thousands and thousands of cattle were slaughtered in the uk based on this fallacy but of course the governments have never admitted it and but they put a lot of farmers out of business and a great human and animal tragedy so again nothing to do with a germ purely to do
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with poisoning and again we found it with mixomatosis in rabbits and uh because we kept this well we decided that you know we have to you know try and use the scientific method where possible and keep you know testing our hypothesis so we you know we had the idea that well if it's not germs then let's look at other causes well you know so in this particular example the bsc we found there were tox toxins uh involved you know organophosphates so again looking at other diseases we
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thought well let's put aside the so-called infectious um agent idea and and see if there's any evidence to show us or at least give us uh strong indications that there were other causes and we found in every single case we looked at now we didn't look at every single infectious disease or so-called because there are apparently thousands of them but we we did try to investigate thoroughly the fairly major ones
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and they're the ones that we've included in the book but we always looked at so many other um possible or potential causes and we found evidence that supported um what we what our ideas were what our hypothesis were so you know we just we just kept looking um for that evidence to support what we thought was uh or were the causes or other causes rather than looking for the you know non-existent evidence that
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it was anything to do with any so-called virus or bacterium no i mean bacteria are alive obviously that that's that's a completely different uh organism and it's a real organism but there is absolutely no evidence that they are are the cause of disease either which i know everyone's sort of starting to realize that the problem with viruses but the idea that bacteria cause diseases also also needs to be uh understood because um i have seen a number of cases where
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on reports if you like where people are saying well this isn't a viral problem you know this covert thing isn't a viral problem um but it's it's a bacterial pneumonia um so they're sort of shifting it into a bacterial cause and that that's that would be a mistaken root to go down because as we say you know there's no evidence that bacteria cause disease in fact they are essential they are essential to all uh life um on the planet and you
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know including the human body not just in the uh digestive system where people know or they you know break down the um sort of food into component parts and um but you know bacteria also exist in in other parts of the body um so and they are they are essential so you know they they shouldn't be blamed as causes i mean it's another example we came across this a lot where the medical establishment fudge the issue you know that when once they start
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getting caught out on something they then try and move it move the uh the topic in a in a sideways motion uh they're very deceitful keep making the goal possible absolutely you know they rename so-called diseases they uh well like we were talking earlier about um a virus being a non-living thing you know it's quite clearly not it has none of the attributes and then they try to come up with oh well maybe under certain circumstances it is alive how explain to us
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how something that has none of the attributes of a living thing i.e under their own scientific disciplines i mean for something to be clustered alive it has to be able to eat and excrete has to be able to reproduce has to have a certain minimum dna um and these particles don't have any of that you know i.e they're not alive so you know the first question would be how can they attribute so much to something that's not alive and never has been alive and we've even seen them try to fudge it by saying well it lies
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dormant in some way and it can lie dormant for years and then suddenly come alive in some way and start calling i mean it gets ridiculous so it's like a magic show really i mean when i every time i read it it's like they just do a little sleight of hand trick to you know bridge the gap of the knowledge that isn't there into the next logical fallacy right and they the problem of course being that you're when your baseline knowledge is in error and you keep
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building upon that with your science you will just come back as dr stefan lanka says a circular argument back to just proving your fallacy so you're not proving science you're not doing forward science you're just trying to prove your first fallacy as being true so you're it's not pure sciences it's just let's just keep this this belief system this scientism going and um and hope that nobody notices that we haven't actually done proper science
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rigorously and and yet say the words over and over like well that's no it's not science what you've said so then they they do what narcissists do which is gaslight people and say well you couldn't possibly know that or you're mistaken you don't do science you don't wear a white coat whatever they're they're uh passing the buck sort of stuff and they obviously are going to love using the germ as a you know trojan horse for all kinds of other things right like selling their drugs i mean that's really one of the reasons why with the flexner report and the
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rockefeller system when it came in was like well if we scare them to the germ we can sell them all these drugs and and they it comes from petrol and it's it's a really very uh financially viable idea for these these people so it wasn't born of like let's help humanity or let's cure the world of all these diseases or let's cure leprosy or whatever it was never ever good intentions that came from that which is really unfortunate because i know there are a lot of doctors who get swooped into that and they probably do
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have good intentions and they they mean well but they're just so lost in it like one of the things i found fantastic when i read your through your book that this section i'm talking about antibiotics and penicillin right and i remember my brother having a violent reaction to penicillin and as a result they kept the penicillin away from me too being you know genetically related because everything's either a genetic cause or a a germ that's it they can't think of toxicology because they don't want to go down that road they don't say well we poisoned you
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with our crap right so but one thing that struck me is that the and i see this in my practice all the time is vaccine caused injuries this they're poisoned from birth uh they go through all kinds of issues then they go back to the doctor and they poison them further so that of course happened to many of us including me i had 12 bouts of antibiotics for so-called strep throat which began from an mmr intoxication from from the injection which i did find a paper that linked the measles
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wastes uh from the mmr getting stuck in the tonsil tissue and causing localized inflammation and tissue damage and therefore secondary bacterial uh you know just breaking down dead tissue were found in the area but that link to actually causing damage to the adrenal glands i would love for you to just speak on that briefly because i found that profound not only are you wiping out your milieu that is in every component of your of your body not just gut like you were saying
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but also it creates a false sort of high through punching the adrenal glands and creating that maybe it might reduce pain it might make you feel like you're feeling better for a little while but that's a false sense of security because it's just punching the adrenals and if you keep repeating the doses you're going to have some problems and it explained my situation perfectly because when i went through medical school i went through extreme adrenal fatigue and and all kinds of problems with my adrenal glands and i'd had 12 bouts of antibiotics back
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to back that's what these people did before they took my tonsils out and thought that was logical thought that you know that's isn't that the definition of insanity when you keep putting the same thing on that it doesn't right so but it clicked for me i'm like okay so it's the adrenals that's why they got so punched so early in my career right it's a lot of people go through this so what did you find about the toxicity of penicillin and also some of the information about what it's doing metabolically to the
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endocrine system because i find that absolutely vital information yes i mean we found again got a long story short uh so some of the work of dr vela which you may have come across who was a medical doctor and again practiced all the normal things that had been taught as a doctor um not only on his patients but on himself and realized that over a number of years that didn't actually work his patients didn't get better and neither did he so he realized there was
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something wrong so we started he started to examine the whole medical system himself we came back a few years now um and we looked at a lot of his work and he did some amazing work on exactly what you're talking about a sort of antibiotics and their effect on the body in particular the endocrine system and again couldn't in short i mean if you think about the word antibiotic it means anti-life so you know that there's a problem start with you're taking something that's basically toxic to the body
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and that's exactly what it is the body sees it as toxic which is what it is and he wants to get it out of itself as quickly as possible so i mean he sort of referred to it as really um firing up the endocrine system uh in all its facets including the adrenals of course um to get rid of this toxin um along with any other toxin that may have been put into the body whether it's from vaccinations or anything else which may have been what was making the personnel in the first place
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so along comes the doctor says oh yes we'll give you some antibiotics which is another load of toxins fires up the endocrine system which gets rid of it all but then they um they sort of complement the antibiotics as being the savior as the thing that's actually made you well uh whereas it's the body that's made you well but of course the more times you do that sort of supercharge the endocrine system and the adrenals as part of it with antibiotics
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uh you you burn them out you burn the system out you know i often refer to it like overriding your car engine you know having it screaming you know and if you run like that all the time you're gonna do serious damage to your engine so it never works properly and that's of course what happens to your endocrine system you sort of burn it out so it doesn't work properly but then of course the medical establishment rather than admitting what they've done will say that well you're not responding to antibiotics anymore uh therefore it must be a superbug that's now come along that's
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uh developed a resistance to that antibiotic so obviously we've got to make another antibiotic and charge you some more money for that which is great news for the pharmaceutical companies and they do this all the time but no antibiotics are toxic at their anti-life they're poisonous they're meant to be because they're meant to kill something but they damage your system and yes repeated use of antibiotics seriously damages your system as as you said yeah it's
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um it's very um sad the way that they hand that out as well because it's you know once that's gone into the system there's a lot of work that has to be done to rebuild you know all of the the lineages of the body and it it also starts the thinking of well we we are full of all of these life forms we have cells inside of of us that are you know there's what 10 times more bacterial cells than than our own and then what about these
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whatever they are calling these other particles whether it's a exosome whether it's a breakdown particle whether it's a somatid or a microzyma or any of these other lineages that they also totally ignore um what does that mean about our environment what does that mean about us what does that mean about our soil microbes and and what's what is around us and that we are one with our environment and if you do this segregation where you you sterilize yourself and try to sterilize the world that can only uh cause all kinds of
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other disease processes in the body when you do that because if we are life and life is around us then why would we kill the life with the antibiotic and and if we are trying to heal ourselves and those microbes and so forth are coming only in when we are toxic and they're trying to clean up the terrain and then we get rid of that what is that going to lead to well i mean cancers and and long-term diseases so the intervention is what creates the long-standing
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chronic illness right and and sorry go ahead and then i want to ask you a question about all the viruses and you know all the viruses in the body yes i was just going to say that the um the idea of you know these uh that you were talking about really stems from um a mistaken assumption if you like that the body's you know like a machine of different parts um and another assumption is that you know the blood is a sterile
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environment or even that the human body is a sterile environment so finding all these other living somethings in the body was uh kind of well they shouldn't be there you know because the body is sterile if you like and so they they shouldn't be there that's not part of the human body you know so they must have come in and caused damage um rather than realizing or even investigating the true nature of the human organism and by human biology um
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and realizing this it's a a self-healing self-organizing system rather than just you know a machine of different parts made of these sort of you know different atoms it very much comes out of the um shall we say sort of materialistic kind of ideas of uh i think whether descartes started that i don't know but you you know the the mechanistic view of life and living things so any of these minute creatures should we say are not seen as being part of
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the environment you know essential for the environment they're just you know if you like pests you know like all these other insects whatever they're you know if they're not uh in the right place then they're a pest and so they have to be got rid of but i think it it as you said earlier amanda i think from the early days it may have started out where of just misconceptions and they were making their wrong assumptions about bacteria and viruses but then it developed into a very successful business model and as you quite write the pharmaceutical company i mean all
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pharmaceutical products are based on petrochemical products so there was an unholy alliance between the petrochemical companies and the pharmaceutical companies as they've grown up so they they have a brilliant business model it is tragic for human beings of course and life on earth but they these people don't care about that as we know um so that's why we are where we are with the world today because of these this unholy alliance
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which is supporting one another on a complete fiction and why we're in the situation we are today with this fiction of the coronavirus um based on those science and it's easily provable to be not based on any science so you immediately have to say so why they're doing it and of course then that opens up the agenda that's behind it which we're well aware of i'm sure you're well aware of it as to what it is and it's quite a deep and dark yes it is deep and dark and a lot of
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people i think don't want to know and i think they so they purposefully cut off their knowledge on these topics because they first of all it's really hard to be wrong for if you're in your ego states right you don't want to be wrong and um you'd also if you built a whole career on that lie that's that's a pretty tough pill to swallow for a lot of people like imagine all these virologists they're just their whole careers have been an absolute lie and not only that they've pushed ideas that hurt people so
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they have blood on their hands and that's that is really tough for so many people to just go through that process and so they'd rather just keep lying they'd rather ignore that and just keep going um you know make up stories to support their fallacies and we've seen this recently i won't go into i know who you're talking about and when you want to watch that uh yeah what's a disgrace you know complete disgrace but uh this is
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what you get um so uh yeah it's not helpful to humanity and it would be way better for those people to just just say i'm sorry just say i was wrong and i'm sorry and i i want to make it right before i die i want to correct it beforehand and i will work my tail off until my last breath to correct my error and and that would be the most noble thing they could ever do for humanity would be to do that because then it would open it up for other virologists and and
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and you know doctors who are stuck in the germ theory to open up and to do it but they're just you gotta have a backbone you have to be brave and you have to be okay with your mistakes and so that means you have to be an adult and not yeah science is a process it's always evolving it's moving forward and and everything just absolutely stuck in germ theory if you like and and nobody's prepared to uh well very few have prepared to even
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contemplate the idea that maybe it's defunct maybe it's not quite right at least to to even look at in into other avenues and they just won't do it it is largely vested interest as you say you know that all of virology's careers depend on it the pharmaceutical companies depend on it doctors depend on it if you take away the germ theory and remind everyone it is a theory still which means it's unproven and it certainly is unproven but so much vested interest
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based on it once you pull that rug from under it the whole house of cards comes down all of modern western medicine collapses virology collapses the pharmaceutical company companies collapse huge so you can see the reluctance for anyone to start to rethink it officially that is and of course these same people that uh own the pharmaceutical companies and the petrol chemical companies and the banks uh also own the media and we've seen the effects that
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uh the media pumping out this propaganda i'll call it that it's certainly not news and it's certainly not truth but pumping out this propaganda seven days a week you know uh certainly in the uk i'm sure you get it in the states too but it's every time you put on the the so-called news uh that's all they talk about uh scaremongering uh talk about deaths which is fictions i challenge anyone to prove anyone's died of
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covid19 um because they can't um you can't die from something that doesn't exist you know it's crazy and the isolation when they say isolation you know it's important to make clear that they're using a term they've defined it's like the un divide defining piece it's not what you think it means okay it's it's isolation means that they actually take a cell out it's with the cell star all the cell structure they they
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don't that's their isolation that's what they're saying isolation is it's not they've taken out the actual little virus they're like hey little guy and like let's uh talk to it and see what it does and separate out from other stuff that it's in they have never done that and they can't do that because there's nothing to it if they if they even were successful in somehow doing such a thing with a a cell fragment it would denature immediately as soon as it hits the air i mean or or any type of heat change or outside the body and i always found it
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fascinating that with all the so-called modern tech that we have why are they still not looking at living blood you know why are they we have the somatoscope that gaston nissan's created there's all this rife technology which is again a whole living situation right of looking at the blood and what's actually happening they do that on purpose they don't want you to see what's actually going on down in the the bowels of the of the real of life of actual life because that was one of my wake-up calls when i first saw
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living blood moving i was like whoa this is life this is just like i'm looking in an ocean you know and everything's moving the white blood cells look alive everything looks like it has feet and it moves like that's what we are right and when you get that in your head this this whole theory starts to smell fishy right you're like no we're living so so that's okay i think that's part of what we are i think that's you i think that's part of our existence right
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but you're right i mean they it's not that they couldn't do these tests you know of proper isolation as a dictionary definition you know to isolate something is to just isolate the thing from every other thing because that's what they're doing to humans at the moment they're definitely isolating people yeah but to isolate a particle you know they could do it but they don't do it because they've there is nothing for them to isolate but people often forget that's only part of
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what cox postulates asked them to do you know if they ever went to the stage of isolating this particle that they say causing the disease they should then be able to introduce it into a living creature preferably a human and then that person is supposed to develop the disease and you're then supposed to be able to take a sample of blood from that person with the disease and find the viruses in it so it's not just a case of isolating it which they've never done
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but they've never done the rest of cox postulates which are you know which is what they're supposed to live by but uh ignore all the time when it suits them so they've never done any of the things scientifically that they should do for every virus or and for every causal agent for a disease they've never done any so they don't practice science at all um for them that's for the reason of they need to support their um fallacy because if they did proper
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science their fallacy would be exposed and as i've said the whole house of cards would fall down and there are papers showing that there's ple these are pleomorphic type of bacteria like when we go down the bacterial root right they change shape and and we do have studies showing their pleomorphic nature as you have brought up in your book and that when you when you give a pleomorphic bacteria which means that it will change based on the environment in which it is placed if you now
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uh take that and put it in say agar um you're going to change what it becomes because it's going to adapt to what it's been been placed into so that's going to be a different presentation in your blood and in each individual's blood and ph and all of their intricacies to a standardized agar plate which is trying to grow up something and show you that yes see what came out of your body so right there you've made they've made a critical error of just removing it
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from one medium and placing it on another and assuming that it will be the same exact bacteria at that point when they grow it that's it that's a huge misunderstanding that a lot of people i don't think they they have ever thought about which is very valuable this is why i said earlier that the stuff that goes off in the laboratory and in the petri dishes which is all they're doing um there's no resemblance to what happens in the human body um and so there's no correlation between
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the twos but they make all their assumptions based on what happens in a petri dish and it's hardly surprising that it's uh comes out as a complete fallacy but unfortunately the fallacies that they produce have dire consequences for humanity as we're experiencing today are we going to say something done yeah pretty much what david was saying that they're completely ignoring the environment within the human body which is completely different
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but not just the environment but the fact that it's uh it's um an interconnected system so that you know each bacterium doesn't exist kind of in a vacuum within the body it's interconnected with everything else and so there are processes within the body that are completely ignored well they just don't happen the mean immediately you take something out of the body it's it's very different and so any um processes that that happen normally
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within the body just won't happen because there aren't all the connections and the communications and anything else that's going on uh within the body that will uh affect the behavior the actions um the functions of of that bacterium and so once you've broken it out i mean for instance the pharmaceutical companies only seem to think of the body as a chemical system i mean everything they do is to do with chemicals really the big industry that's uh supported by it of course
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but they completely ignore the fact that the human body is in the electrical system as well and it has a very subtle electrical system which is very important and the yes there are chemical reactions that happen in the body but they interact with the electrical system in the body so again as dawn has said once you take some cellular particles out of the body and put them in a petri dish you've again completely isolated it from the environment of the body and the body's electrical system so it's it's not going to be the same and you're not going to be able to draw any sensible scientific conclusions from
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it but unfortunately that's exactly what they do well at least there's more and more people looking at the living blood the holographic nature of the of the blood and and what's really going on and i think as we continue to do research and we continue to speak and um and build up the the new paradigm because really it's a scientific revolution and that takes time um and we have to you know build the evidence before it topples over the lies and that's
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a process and you've done a great job in in really touching on so many different topics in your book i mean you go through syphilis and leprosy and cervical cancer and um you know all of these different so-called diseases that are supposed to be linked to either a bacterium or a virus and and dismantled them and and so it's and it helped the mind get through it which i think the one of the big biggest values that i found through this book is just that my mind feels clearer about that topic now and every time you
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you go into it and really think it through you get that foundation stronger and then your confidence comes up as well because then you know that if you're around someone who's expressing some sort of sickness that you're fine you're not going to catch it and nine times out of ten if people think they do catch it it's it's really the power of belief that is is projecting and they're they're doing going through a detox because they believe it and that's another thing that people just have ignored in this entire discussion like the electricity
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part is huge and also the beliefs the the the way that our mind works to create actual biochemistry in in in cascade like candice pert uh has shown and and how epigenetics works i mean they just they they ignore complete topics of science and knowledge to continue to to you know push their agendas and their false ideas and it's just becoming archaic that excites me because i feel like we're going to get somewhere if we
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continue to traverse these topics and build the library of knowledge for for others to just get out of the false group thinking and really it's just a religious belief it's not actual science and let's get to real science now which is repeating an observation and i can tell you clinical science is also very devalued because um when we're talking about this stuff it's very individual so your milieu of your body is going to be different than somebody else as well which they're also not going to consider when they you
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try to isolate it and put in a petri dish and all that sort of stuff right and so when you're working from a holistic concept you're really listening to the individual and because it's the individual with the disease or the illness that matters not the the characterization of the disease and what it's supposed to look like and all of these things and people get stuck in that like oh leprosy is this and this is what happens in the body right but then in your book you say well they they've used the the bcg vaccine equally for
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you know leprosy and you know like they they don't they say it works for that but they don't qualify it like why would that work when it's supposed to be not the agent for so-called you know leprosy right like you have skin eruptions and you have people who are poor and and and sitting in wastes and this sort of thing so why why is that so-called connected you know in their minds not that nothing of that makes sense and then you take the individual and you look at their circumstances and
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you take their story and you realize well they're poor they're nutritionally deficient they've been poisoned by vaccines they've been poisoned by drugs uh they're depressed um they're they're they have no clothing they're exposed i mean why wouldn't you have get skin eruptions from that from just dirt on your skin and then those can become festering and problematic and eventually your your limbs will fall off don't you think i mean that's just to me that's complete logic but no they need to somehow find
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a causative agent by pulling out the tissue and saying oh there it is right i mean it's just to me it's so absurd but i found that fascinating in your book about you know then you can have a vaccine and it somehow also causes polio which is paralysis syphilis leprosy cancer so uh this is what smallpox vaccines are doing for example right do you want to just touch on some of some a little bit of that and um because i find that very fascinating you're quite right with what you say i mean uh when we looked and we
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we did look at those diseases smallpox and syphilis and stds in general really um and certainly the old diseases so called like leprosy um and smallpox really they're their causes are exactly what you said they're um poor nutrition and toxification so wherever you get poor nutrition and that's the right supply of vitamins and minerals to the body the body will start to
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fall apart literally i mean a prime example of that was what used to be called scurvy which was um you know the sailors you know sailing in sailing ships along the journeys across the atlantic and the pacific um with their sort of meager rations uh which was sort of not nice dishes of fruit and vegetables um and they used to come down with this scurvy and they and very similar symptoms um in his advanced stages
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to leprosy uh where the lack of as they found eventually it was with scurvy it was lack of vitamin c and it took them a long time before they actually started putting um fruit on the boats which happened to be barrels of limes and uh actually why the americans at the time call the british limeys it's an old name because of the tubs of limes that used to be on the sailing ships uh so the sailors didn't go down with
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scurvy but that was a pure and simple lack of vitamin c but it literally could kill people you know they started to fall apart both inside and out you know with the skin coming off the disease in south america called uh pelagra which had similar effects and when it was examined and eventually found out what it was it was a lack of a b vitamin b3 which uh niacin um so once that was corrected that disease went away so there's all
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sorts of examples like that leprosy is another one where people are not getting the right nutrition nutritious food come up with these terrible ailments literally with skin falling off their body now originally leprosy was thought to be contagious and hence lepers were put into colonies and isolated from people but in later years of course they realized it wasn't a contagious anything at all because there was no despite what the medical establishment said there was no uh infectious agent
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um it was literally the body being deprived of what it needs um living in in sanitary conditions and not having the correct levels of nutrition and that's really what that disease was all about and that's why in modern times where those things have been corrected where people have a better diet in most places and have more sanitary conditions the disease has sort of fallen away and the only cases when you come across it is in so-called developing countries where
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the people are very poor living in very poor conditions with not the right levels of nutrition so again it proves itself that those are the causes nothing to do with the germ at all no what i was going to say was that uh the sort of skin eruptions on diseases like leprosy or smallpox or those kinds of things um the the origin of the word virus was that the substance within the kind of pustules if you like you know the past was called virus because it was a noxious
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substance it was a poison that was the virus not that there was a virus a living thing in it but it was um if you like the sort of the the toxin of disease you know the virus of disease and that's where the word came from um you know that's the context it was used in um you know for centuries and it was only convenient to make it into some kind of particle but that's where the origin of the uh use of this
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uh word virus for something that is to do with a you know skin eruptions and these kind of um skin diseases also or so-called infectious diseases which of course they're not um but as i say it was just that origin that that you know that pus from the pustules that's where you know um that's where it was original that's what was called virus and also that you know you've got all these multiple like they say okay aids is a constellation of different diseases
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or you know you've got tb and then tb is supposedly given silently by somebody else who's carrying it but the person who's getting it in early tb has no actual tb cells or bacilli i found inside their lungs whatsoever so there's all of these big mistakes i find quite glaring and really alarming i mean if you just look into that that's like that whole theory is gone when you realize that what it what if what a lie because you either have the
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bacterium that's causing the disease or you don't you can't have oh it's not there at the beginning and it was given by someone who was never sick to you and that like that just sounds to me absolutely insane that is not science right and and they just it's like a made-up thing okay now you have this presentation which we're gonna call this disease but it's still caused by the same virus like it doesn't nothing makes any sense and then they give you an injection and you present with a whole other constellation of illnesses and they think you have all these other
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new illnesses they're so psychopathic that they can't even make correlations between immediate injection and a disease process happening in the body which to me just shows you how indoctrinated the mind is that it can't even see what's right before it right i mean you're quite right with what you say about tb i mean it again flies in the face of cox postulates which says that you know someone with the said disease the germ should always be found in that person and someone who is healthy the germs
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should never be found in that person and yet it gets complete contradiction because you find the opposite in both cases so even their own cox postulates they totally ignore because it doesn't work but that's what they call asymptomatic you know if you're if you've got an apparent infection um but no actual disease but that's of course a complete fallacy because the uh each disease is defined by reference to the symptoms so if you haven't got a symptom you can't have a disease and if the you
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know as you say if the bacterium is found then it can't be the causal agent it's it's absolutely ludicrous and that's um i mean obviously for us you know we didn't have to kind of come out of the conditioning as you say um we have to just believe that and trust that um we did we did apply logic um but sometimes it you know it stretched our belief thinking how could people have believed this when you know there's a disease is defined by its symptoms and if you've got no symptoms
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you can't have a disease but the interesting thing with tb is of course that that's the disease that robert is is credited with finding the bacterium and so it's quite fundamental because that's the start of you know the his cox postulates and and he's the whole bacteriology he's the father of bacteriology in the same way that pasteur is the father of the germ theory um and so it is it was quite fundamental for us to really uh dive into tb um but not just
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if you like in the western uh world but also in uh so-called developing countries which is why you know we had to look to see if the um what we were uh finding about the causes of tb whether that applied elsewhere and the interesting thing is that uh it's believed to be kind of um is believed to have been declining in the west but more recently it's it started to a resurgence and interestingly in inner-city slums so that just goes to show that there is a
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correlation between the way people live and a disease that's called tuberculosis i mean it isn't but it's obviously the type of condition a particular type of um set of symptoms that people have when they live in these poor uh conditions and and as i say you know let's say the fact that it's within inner city slums just is so revealing absolutely same with the black death too yeah i mean we we did investigate that of course
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uh in the book because uh as dawn said earlier we we did our own what ifs well how did that work and so we thought we'd you know go back as far as we could in history and uh yeah we did look at the black death and some very interesting things came out about that because we both remember when we were at school we were told the black death was all caused by infected rat fleas and i it may be still talk today i don't know but oh yeah a lot of people still believe that but when you look at it from a scientific point of view
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uh you realize that that's a load of nonsense again and uh we came across which we do talk about in the book we came across some very interesting work by professor in an irish university professor mike bailey i'll just mention it briefly for those who are not have not heard about it and he was a well still is as far as i know a dendrochronologist which is somebody who studies tree rings uh which you may think is a strange thing but trees are very ancient things and there are centuries i think the oldest ones are
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5 000 years old which is incredible for the oldest living thing really but with a tree ring you can so you can go back in history and you can look at what the earth's atmosphere was like in a particular year and as a dendrochronologist that's what he did and he thought he'd examine what was going off um around the time of the black death over europe and that and again kind of long story short he realized that something very strange had happened to the earth's atmosphere it had become very toxic very poisonous there was high levels of
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all sorts of toxic gases including ammonia um and so we thought well this is very strange so he then correlated the tree rings with ice core samples which again you can go back into early earth history and from the ice cores you can check what was happening in the earth's atmosphere and you found the two the tree rings and the ice cores correlated with this toxic atmosphere so he looked further into it to see what could have caused that and uh there was tales of uh a lot of
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more volcanic activity around the world and earthquakes and obviously people know whenever the earth opens up for whatever reason all sorts of gases and toxic material is released into the atmosphere and he then also correlated all of that with actual eyewitness accounts and people of the time were talking about very toxic atmosphere well they didn't use the word toxic a very poisonous atmosphere that it was thick and stinking and choking and people were just dropping down dead in the street you know there was no sort
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of uh incubation period over a few weeks and people getting ill i just dropped down dead in the street so um and they also which i found particularly interesting they talked about the rivers and lakes becoming toxic and the fish floating to the surface dead well that was patently nothing to do with rat fleas so um he was obviously on to something there and it may be a side issue but he also mentioned eyewitness accounts where they talked about a comet coming in close into the earth's atmosphere
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which again may have contributed to a toxic phenomena in the earth's atmosphere so the earth's atmosphere basically became very toxic and was not only killing people it was killing animals and it was poisoning the water so people could also have been dying of uh poison water you know they drink the water they didn't have uh the sort of filtration plants that we have today not that they're all that good um so they could have been drinking poisonous water and in more later times particularly in
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london um recent archaeological digs of uh were looking for die-offs of rats because the rats were also supposed to die from these infected fleas and so there should have been large die-offs of rats none of which were reported from eyewitnesses of the time and when they did the archeological digs in london no one to be found there either so again these rat die-offs were another myth
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um so again all of this together we do talk about it a bit more in the book um shows that the black death was again nothing to do with a germ of some sort it was to do with the toxicity in the atmosphere and and getting into the water and both of them were poisoning people someone also statistically looked at how quickly diseases can spread between one person or one animal and another and they were able to calculate that
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for a disease to spread as quickly as it did across europe let's say it would have been impossible for it to be an infection it traveled so quickly it couldn't have been being passed from one person or an animal to another but of course if it was the whole atmosphere became toxic then that would explain why it covered such a large area such a short space of time so again when you when it's looked at scientifically you realize that it's nothing to do with uh infected raffles and that there are other much more probable
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causes for such a phenomena is the black death and it doesn't seem that difficult when you do the research you will find the evidence it's not like oh well i couldn't find anything must i don't know no it's there it's readily there like oh look at that isn't that interesting we have an environmental causation oh poison in the water which they're still doing to this day they're poisoning people through the water source um with fluoride and chlorine and other you know materials that get in there and and you know of course these things are going to make you sick
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i don't always what i find fascinating is it's i don't find that a hard leap in the mind i don't i don't see that as a difficult place to go in your thinking right like if you if you eat something poisonous your body becomes like if you eat um rotted food right we can't obviously we can't eat food that's rotting back into the ground because it's full of all the wastes and the toxins of the breakdown products that the bacteria and fungus and all this stuff are actually putting off right and they have their own protection
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mechanisms like that's where the penicillin came from right like you have like funguses and things make their own you know get away from me other creatures don't eat me that's their own defense mechanisms and they just want to eat as well right and but if we eat the waste then the body says no you can't have those breakdown products and you'll become violently ill you'll throw up and that sort of thing that's food poisoning um and and even like i make all these handmade creams and salads and stuff and i have to be very clean when i make that because it as soon as
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you have a food or a lotion or anything the the earth wants to take it back home into the soil so and that's through bacteria and fungus and so forth and so of course that you want to protect your thing that's dead effectively dead from breaking down right but what i find also fascinating is people are not talking about the things that are making more and more people ill is all the toxic the toxic load coming up like metals and um all sorts of exposures in the
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house like you know toluenes and all of these you know diseases in the house from like just gassing of all these plastics and things and emfs and like there's so many other toxins coming in that can degrade the body and what i'm seeing personally is a lot of parasite problems like people are just full of worms and full of flukes i mean it's that's a real epidemic as far as i'm concerned i'm detoxing people from parasites all the time and again it's not a problem in and of itself it's that they're coming in
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because you're giving them food they're just coming in because you've you've pre created the buffet for them to eat those materials right and if you're living in a moldy house you're going to get sick because again all of those off-gassing products eventually are going to come into your body and your body cannot handle so much waste any type of toxic waste and so i find everyone's like so focused on this mythological viral thing and they're missing glaring problems in our health right now i mean
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doctors will will say there's no parasites you're you're a loon you're something wrong with your head meanwhile i have cases of parasites coming out of people's eyes you know where they do a coffee enema and their whole the whole toilet's full of flukes these are people that don't even have severe um symptoms just malaise right so we then they're ignoring all of those other problems um by again the smoke screen of this scary virus so did you in your research find anything else about
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you know other types of microorganisms that you know worms and stuff or any evidence of like bed sores turning into maggots because i had someone tell me that their bedsore became maggoty with no outside source coming in and actually like no flies laying eggs or anything like that and that was very curious to me and i wanted to go down that route of of study but i was wondering when when you were researching what you found out about those types of uh organisms well i've not come across the the bed
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sores with maggots before i mean but certainly um parasites uh the body has a mechanism for dealing with parasites a normal healthy body deals with parasites by releasing nitric oxide if i remember correctly to kill off the parasites but of course you're quite correct you know if you've got an unclean terrain uh which provides food for parasites for funguses you know isn't another one but they're doing a job uh the funguses
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for instance you know they're trying to in the same way that bacteria do if the body is not in a uh homeo that's homostasis so he's in an unclean state these are trying to clean it up um but of course the medical establishment sees them as an enemy and just wants to kill them off which then of course makes the whole situation worse so if people have a healthy body they wouldn't be suffering from parasites and if they did somehow get a parasitic
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infection the body does have a first line of defense as i say with nitric oxide but i guess there's going to be stages where some people get so uh so deep into toxification that they need some help to get them back into a place where they can reach homeostasis and it's interesting to hear you say that you're coming across more more and more cases of people having these parasitic infections which is um not something you would expect in a
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in a so-called advanced country like america but uh sorry canada or america for that matter or the uk for that matter um but of course you do come across it more rather than with all the money that's spent on the health systems in all three of those countries a huge amount of money you would expect that we'd have the best health in the world but we don't for the majority of people their health is getting worse and worse and so people really ought to be asking why
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that is and that surely you would think would wake them up to realize that the mainstream medical system is failing them that it doesn't understand them or their supposed illness and that's why the voltaire quote is on the back of our book which people like um no i don't know whether i can remember it but it's basically along the lines of doctors of men who prescribe medicines of which they know little to cure diseases of which they're no less in human beings of whom they know
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nothing and that was true in the 1700s it's still just as true today a very wise man was voltaire yeah so a number of doctors obviously that doesn't apply to an increasing numbers those who are kind of you know looking at waking up looking at the human body looking at human biology in a somewhat different way and stop thinking about these uh so-called uh germs um and you know really have to completely change um the way people look and that's why the subtitle
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is why everything you thought you knew about disease is wrong because disease isn't an entity that attacks the body um you know there's nothing out there that's trying to harm us but it's um it does require people to know what they're exposing themselves to what they're putting in and on their bodies what they you know everything they're eating um and certainly that's um with the increasing kind of toxins in food production whether it's agriculture or even
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manufactured food products um it's not surprising that people are getting these um parasites from mainly in the digestive system which again is is disrupted it's not it's it's not functioning properly and so people are not getting the nutrients they require so it's a vicious circle really um it's not to scare people that oh you know you're surrounded by toxins and everything's dire it's just to know and that's really the point of the book is is to provide people with the information so that they know what are the toxins
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and how where they are so they can avoid them and also what they can do um what they can do to change what their lifestyle their the products they use and everything that they eat it's it's it's designed not to scare people but it's to give them the information as we say to make informed decisions it's not telling people what to do but you know there's the information and now you can do something about it um and take control of your own health
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and that's the thing and it's it's not the you know have to believe in the authority of the white coat and this is not being disparaging to doctors we know you know a lot of them are trying to do the right thing they went into that career for with the right for the right reason and with the right intent um but they've got the wrong information and they starting from the wrong place so it's it's to say look you know we can take certainly a lot of responsibility certain exposures you can't like you're saying emfs
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there's certain exposures that out out there in the environment that you can't necessarily affect but the body is amazing and it can actually do um a lot of its own detoxification as david's thing you know sort of it's it's a normal part of the process to detox detoxify so it's not to be scared of of all these you know toxins but the but you can't overload the system otherwise it does struggle to to be healthy because you
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know the body's not kind of an inert thing it's it's trying to restore health it's trying to get itself you know it is an active system and it will continue to try and get back to being healthy um through well as long as you're alive your body's trying to help you be healthy yeah that's very important what you just said and i teach that all the time your body is innately intelligent it knows what it's doing the symptoms are not a problem the symptoms are showing you information and
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it's it's the body's intelligence trying to make a correction and so you don't want to suppress the symptom you want to listen to what the symptom is showing you about the process of the body in its correction in trying to get into homeostasis and then you're going to apply it uh in the direction it's going so you're going to help it do that rather than go in the opposite direction because the more you suppress it with the opposite like you know putting a drug and just making the symptoms disappear
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then the body cannot correct properly and so you will actually fester that issue and it will prolong it and if you're lucky once the drug residue has dispersed it will try that again in the same way in which it was already doing it um and we see that with things like eczema for example right and like they use cortisone it comes back cortisone comes back home but then eventually it'll go into the lung tissue and you'll get asthma or you'll get other problems like your psoriasis of the liver and these sorts of things because your your the mechanism becomes broken
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after a while it's like well that's not working every time we do it we can't get around it so i guess we'll go through another organ of elimination we'll try the lungs or we'll try see if the liver will take this again or what not right and so you'll get deposits you get arthritis and all these other things that happen in the body but if you listen and you help it express with the proper nutrition and lifestyle factors and i like that in your book you go through a lot of the the poisons in our environment and things that are you know affecting us negatively so people can become more aware
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of what they're putting on their body which is a two-way street the organ breathes you know in two directions so you don't want to put you know all these petrochemicals all over your skin as well as inside your body um and that's one of the things that i why i started my own business and why i started making really clean products because i literally couldn't find anything clean for my own daughter i wanted a diaper cream for my daughter and it was all full of petrochemicals and and if they would call it green that so be careful of green washing and all of this industry nonsense it's all marketing the whole thing really
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is all marketing it's uh it's selling us an idea right and so i really like in the backy book you go through a lot of those different chemicals and ideas about how to avoid them and and the problems associated with them in the research there and i find that amazing um i know we went over quite long longer than we had intended but it's just so fascinating because this is so important this is vital information this is revolutionary information and it's empowering and that's what we where we need to be right now we need to be empowered to take the muzzle off and
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to stand up in to these jailers of ours and say enough no more you're lying to us you've been lying to us for hundreds of years and we're tired of it and we have the evidence we have the the the the truth there and we're going to just keep sharing it so i encourage you know everyone to please share this video far and wide and please you're you're welcome to like take out snippets and reformat it i totally give license to that because we're all so heavily censored they don't want this information out so
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we really want to try to educate people and and take the fear factor out so they can think again right and get their adrenals you know calm down but any last words about about um what we've been talking about or anything that you feel you know you want to leave the audience with you you think is very important um in this in this time yes i i think and thank you for what you've just said um yes i think the biggest thing that we would hope that the information we give out on our website and
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and in our book is to take fear away from people because that's a very big thing at the moment and it's been driven by the mainstream media in particular and the governments to keep people afraid and away from one another not talking to one another muzzling people as you say with these damn masks all of which doesn't take much research to show that they would be completely useless even if there was a virus float a pathogenic agent floating about which of course there isn't but this is what people buy into so we're
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hoping that the information we put out will take away that fear from people so they can that because that's a very debilitating uh thing and can make people ill we've seen suicide rates go up in both the uk and the states um so that's one thing take let's take away the fear let's show people that they can take charge of their own health they don't need to you know immerse themselves in all sorts of drugs and that's the worst thing they can do um yeah to take back control
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and we're hoping as well the sort of site well probably one of the main issues really that if people can see through this gigantic lie that's been perpetrated about health through this uh non-existent virus um if they can see the type of lie and the size of the lie that's been perpetrated on them by all of the world governments and all of the world medical establishments and all of the world media then they will never believe them again and therefore that will stop them from
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ever perpetrating such a lie on the people again and will encourage the people to push back and to take back control of their lives as well as their health because if they don't there's no one else going to do it if people don't get together themselves and do it no one else is going to and as i alluded to earlier if we don't then the future for humanity as a whole is very dark indeed so i do encourage everyone to show some courage and to learn the truth about what's happening
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and to make those changes you know the people have got to do it no one else will well said and this is the book we've been talking about you can see all my little notes in there uh what really makes you ill why everything you thought you knew about disease is wrong and this is david parker and don lester and it's an incredible look how look at that i mean that's a monster it's a beautiful book you got to digest it piece by piece i'm starting to mark mine up more and more and uh where can people purchase the book or
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where's the best place for them to purchase them okay well of course like all books they end up on amazon no matter what you do they're always they're on amazon now we know that people don't always like to buy from amazon so we're happy to say there's quite a lot of online bookstores that you can get it through there's quite a few of them surprise me so um if people just have a bit of a look for online bookstores where they can buy it from um you can get we do an e-book version of it but that's only available through kindle i'm afraid yeah
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at the moment it's just but you know for those who are wanting uh something a little less expensive shall we say um the kindle version is only about ten dollars something like that and of course the advantage of the kindle version is it's very easy to search because it has a search facility so you can search by keywords which is some people find very useful but there is quite an extensive table of contents there's it's not an index i know people say but the table of contents is is quite extensive i think it's about four four or five pages or something so
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lots of information in that and people can go to our website at what really makes you ill.com uh as well as there being articles that we put up from time to time there's videos like this one will be referenced on there but the book you can also do a look inside on our book so you can have a look at the table of contents and you can read some of it actually online on our site which people might find helpful as well so yeah i hope people will have a look um but i hope people will take notice and uh
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take back their power that's the important thing they must take back their power and do something positive absolutely absolutely well said i i appreciate both of you so much for for all the work you've done and for you know all the and and doing all the interviews and everything as well because it can be quite tiring as i know personally and uh but it's this is the time to really be brave and work hard and and just get up every day with determination and you know if you have your days where it's getting you down just you know go
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for a walk and drink some water and you know take a bath and do some self-care but just get up and we're like we are warriors in this and now and we we have to continue to stay strong and believe that there's going to be good that comes out of all of this mess um because look at the conversations we're having i mean we weren't having these conversations previously and even when your book came out it wouldn't have been the same kind of level of conversation and poignancy as it is now um so so i think the timing was
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definitely very divine um and i i'm just i promote your book all the time um if you i'm going to do actually an article about um your book on my blog and i will also post this video on my own video server because i had to create one due to all the censorship so that's at my website yummy.doctor you don't put dot com or anything like that the doctor is the domain name and uh so it'll be under the videos section as well if you hit on blog you can see
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all the the information i have a lot of stefan lanka's information there as well i actually dictated um orally one of his important articles about the falsity of the the corona uh hopes and and why why we know it wasn't isolated and who the players were in perpetuating this farce um and it's very well done um and lanka has been on on our side as well and um people can look at his work and and others who you know understand that the body is
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innately intelligent and we have to apply the correct methodologies for optimal health and clear cognition because that seems to be a lot of the problem now as well as people can't seem to think their way out of this mess so i thank you both again so much um i i would love to interview you again some other time and i had this idea i had this vision in my meditation where you were teaching little modules of your book so you would take like one of the topics and then just break it down into like a small
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little video series for people to digest and that might be something to consider i just sort of saw it in my mind's eye because i was thinking what would help people digest the material right because a lot of people will not read it because they they're too busy or they'll make uses or whatever and i know because we've been taken away from books we've been taken into right like reading things on computers and all sorts of things so um but a book in the hand is to me the best but for those who can't go there or don't have time or stressed or whatnot
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you know little tiny modules of of a bits of your um chapters i think would be very marvelous for people to to get a hold of so anyway it was an idea i thought i'd present it yeah it's a good uh good idea yeah well we'll we'll certainly consider it yeah and uh sweet we'll be more than happy to talk to you again amanda and you know thank you very much for all the kind things you've said and thank you very much for your time too uh as like you we're all working hard to get this information out because we know
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it's quite a pivotal point in human history at the moment and i can't stress that too strongly it's a very pivotal point and we have to do what we're doing and people have to wake up while they still can that's right exactly so thank you again if you're interested in any of my holistic products you can go to yumnaturals.store um and if you are interested in my book healing with dmso you can get that at healingwithdmso.com and i again thank you so much for your
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time have a wonderful rest of your evening i guess over there is it in the evening now in the uk yeah yeah we have a full day ahead here so um god bless and all the best and uh thank you again for your time thank you thanks everyone bye for now bye for now

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