This 1977 Pontiac Grand Prix SJ was One of The Best 1970s Personal Luxury Coupes

This 1977 Pontiac Grand Prix SJ was One of The Best 1970s Personal Luxury Coupes

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[Music] good morning this is bill from curious cars and usually auto house of naples but today i have a car from a private collection that frankly i just really wanted to review so here it is i'm actually pretty excited by it this is a 1977 pontiac grand prix sj coupe basically as all grand prix were up until this point it wasn't until many years later that you got some grand prix sedans
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they were historically a coop offering from pontiac but you know let's look at it in the context of the times for the moment 1977 uh what have you got going on you've got star wars was released in the cinema so was saturday night fever you know you really couldn't go wrong with that you had the commodore pat the apple ii and the atari 2600 released uh all of which went on to become successful the atari not so much until my mom bought me one in 1981.
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uh you said well that big 747 disaster at tenerife uh in the canary there was a bomb that went off in uh grand canary and the canary islands so all these airplanes were diverted to this small airport uh in tenerife which drove the controllers crazy all of a sudden i mean this place that's used to having nothing but some regional flights all of a sudden there's like 70 you know big 747s hanging out and it ended up being the worst disaster
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in aviation history had two 747s collided a kmm and a pan am mostly because the klm captain was a douchebag but it did happen in heavy fog and you know there was some confusion at the time but that was a big deal you've got jimmy carter getting elected and his first act is to give away the panama canal like the first thing he did i could use a glass of billy beer this morning and uh what else in 77 i don't know there was some other i guess quebec made french through
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official language that was crafty there was a 25-hour blackout in new york city that led to looting and lots of babies and yeah there was some other stuff that happened uh so 77 was an interesting year the median home price was like 49 grand and gas which was expensive at the time was 65 cents a gallon and there it is that is the stage for which this pontiac the final year of this uh what is this the third generation grand prix
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was released onto the world and actually it did fantastically well in 1977. to this day because of course pontiac is no more uh is and was and it forever will be the best-selling grand prix of all time more than 280 000 of these things were produced in 1977. there was a very very prolific person and luxury coupe at the time uh competed directly with the monte carlo from chevrolet which was also on
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uh the a special body which i'll get into in a minute and a variety of other offerings 77 was the downsized ford thunderbird which sold like hotcakes i think it outsold this car uh but this still did very well against it also the mercury cougar and uh look at these birds going ape the cats were already out this morning i didn't get them on video but they were running around this car and looking at me and they're feeling menacing i don't think the goats are around but peter claims he's now released them from their
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pen so they could be out at any moment which is not great uh the only thing i have going for me is the weather is still a little bit nice um you see and there again animals come by and i get discombobulated and forget wherever the hell i was so anyway in 77 you could also get the merc what was it the amc matador uh barcelona which was probably the most unattractive luxury coupe ever made which is why i absolutely love it but that was another
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offering and of course the person in luxury coupes were off the charts uh all through the 70s and into 77 and that's why pontiac sold so many of these things they were the third biggest division not division sorry the third biggest automaker uh from like 1973 on through this year so they were selling a ton of cars and to some extent you can thank mr delorean for that but we'll get into it so the first grand prix came out in 1962
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and it was based on the catalina platform uh and it was sort of a detuned catamina and it was a sporty uh alternative to uh some other pontiac cars had bucket seats and a center console uh that generation ran i want to say through what was in 1968 and then in 69 the second gen grand prix came out which was a very very attractive car uh the grand prix of 69 you can lend it there's some debate i don't even know if
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it's debate the name s j j and uh ssj which were the models that came out in 1969 through 72 were in no way shamelessly based on the same name duesenberg and some people say the styling relates to that duesenberg as well which is fine maybe it does but you know talk about setting your sights high i mean for america's first supercar the duesenberg sj but anyway that ran
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through uh 73 or sorry 72 until this style came out in 73 a year late because of strikes with the uaw and other stuff going on this car should have been out this style of car should have been out in 72 but anyway it sold well delorean who had a lot of input on the first grand prix when he was the head of advanced engineering at pontiac uh by the time 69 rolled around he was the head of pontiac and helped to he didn't create it but he certainly promoted the niche of the
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personal luxury car market and that is something that went on to be one of the most prolific sellers in american automotive history in 77 the person in luxury coupes accounted for like more than 10 percent of all automotive sales in the united states which is a huge figure way way more than a million cars so this was quite a hot market at the time and uh and it was fascinating that there were so many entrants in it and so many competitors for this car
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not just from other makers but also within the gm division which is part of what ultimately led to their uh serious troubles was just inter division competitiveness and badge engineering and you know it was a real problem but i don't think anybody could say that this particular grand prix was badge engineered even if it was one of the very prolific colonnade cars they came out this was that special okay so like real quick see uh the second gen uh grand prix which
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also shared a platform with some other cars was the g body and it was based on a stretched a body platform uh when 73 came out they just made it the a body and then this was called a special body and uh frankly when i was younger i did have a few girls with a special body there was no doubt about that but uh they did away with the g body thing until the next generation which came out in 78 uh went back to being a full-on g-body so you know it's just typical gm crap with
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all the body stuff it could drive you crazy and the people who harp in on it and you know talk about it like it's important oh god i don't know they drive me nuts i mean who the hell cares what body is what but anyway the a bodies were very prolific and they incorporated a few new styling cues that were mostly done to comply with federal regulations for instance gone was the hard top coupe of the first two generations and what that was was a full side set of windows which
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the rears could be lowered leaving no glass on the side of the car at all in was this colonnade thing which gave you fixed opera windows at the back they called it a six window platform you see that crazy curved windshield at the rear very very cool i do like that but anyway the colonnade could be had in a variety of different a bodies even three within pontiac's own division at least three if not more three i can think of are the grand prix uh the le mans and the grand
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am and then of course you had subsets of those like the gto and can ham and that sort of thing but anyway so the a bodies were all over the place and every division had one except for cadimac which didn't and there was you know basically a lot of competition right within the own gm ranks uh in terms of you know then there was the malibu the monte carlo the regal the cutlass supreme uh all of these cars used a body platforms and they all in some way or another competed with each other but
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only two the monte carlo and the grand prix shared the special uh a special platform which was a longer version of the a body oh my god is that all a mouthful in 73 when it came out it had all pontiac motors and they were you know even though the emissions thing were starting to come into play they were still pretty big motors the base motor was a 400 i think you could even get it with a two barrel then that might have been later on but anyway it's a 400 and then they had a 455 which
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you could get there was going to be a 455 super duty grand prix uh but that didn't work out and uh they you know they supply problems absolutely plagued this line through the whole uh run especially when it became so successful that they're selling 280 plus thousand cars they just couldn't get for it i mean how do you keep up with that level of production i'm probably forgetting the 350 or something that you might have gotten in 72 but i don't think so i think it was just a 400 and 455
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and uh in this gen this third gen it was only turbo hydra 400 transmissions there were no manuals you could get uh because the grand prix wasn't really it was luxury sport if you will i mean it's its primary mission was not to go fast or to be on luxury it was to sort of bridge the gap between the two uh the grand am to a lesser extent was and and that was meant to compete with the european cars which were getting hot at the time the bmws and mercedes and that was more
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or less a pontiac le mans with a grand prix interior and a trans am hood so that was kind of a neat piece and then the lemans which was a slightly less expensive grand prix and then you could get into the pontiac full-size stuff like the bonneville or the katamina which was of course a a much bigger car but anyway one of the interesting things about this gen of grand prix is how the engines changed over time so it went from the 400 455 that carried on for a couple of years
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but the horsepower ratings kept going down uh in 75 the dual exhaust was done away with and you know because academic inverters ruined it and then there was definitely a 350 by 75 and then in 77 the 301 came out uh it was an all-new engine from pontiac based on prior architecture but still all new at the same time the iron duke 4-cylinder came out and they shared a boring stroke and essentially that meant you could take the pistons from an iron duke and put
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them in the 301 the the connecting rods and the aluminum pistons were the same and what that was meant to do at the time was you know we've made this great powerful v8 engine which gets the gas mileage of a v6 and really motivates this car down the road just fine but yeah you know it really didn't um at the time it it just didn't have enough horsepower under 200 and uh ended up being i'll tell you what it was a good motor and a fine motor and it ran well and it did enough and it certainly
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didn't suit racing but it was good enough for day-to-day driving and it was very long-lived and reliable but at the time it was not beloved even though it was offered in most of the grand prix that were made in 1977 you could also opt for a 350 pontiac or a 400 pontiac the 455 was gone by the time this car came out uh that was a thing of the past but the 400 was the top dog motor in 49 states and this one is so equipped
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uh california pontiac wasn't uh their motors weren't uh regular they weren't approved for the admission standards in california so uh you had oldsmobile engines coming out in those you had the 350 olds and the 403 olds and when supplies of those ran short because the cutlass was selling so well they even threw a few a few 350 chevys in some california models anyway it all gets very very convoluted but this was a very very handsome car it's got a vino's grill they changed the
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grill almost every year from 73 to 77 they changed the headlights in 73 the lights were they had just one single headlight on each side two headlights total in the front uh later on it went to four rectangulars then they spaced them out with the parking light in between uh they had a big v grill in the beginning that went to a waterfall grill in the mid 70s and then finally this last grill in 77 was one year only they also
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changed the tan lights and some of the other stuff they all had those aero mirrors no big chrome mirrors on the grand prix part of that pontiac sporty stuff and the beautiful pontiac rally two wheels which i think are some of the most gorgeous steel wheels ever made you can see they're color coded on this car very very attractive they did want to offer alloys but supply problems made it impossible they uh you know on all the documents at the time it said you could order alloys even in 73
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but was not meant to be they ended up probably just going to the trans ams and firebirds and none ever made it onto a car uh in 77 you could get alloys but again a shortage is very tough to get very few 76 was a peak year for the grand prix that's when you could get t-tops hearst top they called it from the company hearst cars were sent off to them to be converted but even they couldn't keep up with demand and there was a 76th anniversary edition
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anniversary gold which had some special cues and that thing came standard with the hearst top and that was about all they could handle so very very few other grand priests were were offered with that top so anyway i feel like i'm rambling all over the place on this car but you can see how it has slightly uh bowtailed rear uh at some stage the license plate moved from beneath the bumper to above the bumper it had horizontal bar type taillights that changed over the years until
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this 77 actually had medallions similar to what uh you know these hairy chested disco guys might wear uh on their uh on their underneath their open shirts so uh that was quite handsome you also had these sort of interesting grand prix uh window appliques inside the opera windows and uh you know maybe that couldn't compete with cheryl teagues and the cougar but it certainly had its own look uh also a variety of different styling options uh the quarter top came on a lot of
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these cars and you know quite a few didn't have it and they probably survived better because quarter tops when kept outside tender rust i also have a pretty nice hood ornament up there at the front and i just love that v hood going into the uh raised fender edges and the split pontiac grille with the arrowhead emblem in between uh 73 brought the five mile an hour bumpers and you can see they continue on to this one in 77 but i think pontiac did a pretty good
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job of integrating them and not making them look very very unpleasant so all in all i think this is incredibly handsome car and beautifully designed and again delorean a real car guy you know a true genius in terms of marketing and styling you can see the impact he had on this car he had gone on you know in early somewhere as chevy i believe but uh he heavily influenced the prior gen and this gen as well and the first gen i love the way the doors taper down and
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then cut back up that's kind of handsome and when you put the windows down it lets more of the outside in you've got two contrasting body lines at the one coming from the rear forward and up towards the center of the door one swooping up from the front and also towards the center of the door and none for a little bit of space in between uh it just hit the mark this car in terms of styling there were three different option packages the uh
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j which was base uh they decontented a lot of the car from the earlier versions to make the price more attainable by you know everybody which again hope sell a shitload of these things the sj like this one which was the sports version and did of course rob the name from the duesenberg sj which is kind of thought of as america's first supercar very collectible very valuable car and then the lj which was a luxury version of the grand prix which did incorporate a lot of luxury options
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they varied from 73 to 77 it was an option package then it became its own model and you know so on and so forth there was also an ssj but i think that was just in the second gen the prior gen to this one uh which was uh you know made by hearst or tuned by hearst if you will there aren't that many of them and they're considered very collectible today uh the lemans and you know grand am sort of moved along at the same pace as this one interesting car which deserves
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a brief mention is the 77 pontiac can-am which they only made about a thousand of them they had a shaker hood scoop from a trans am kind of a neat front and rear bumper treatment and were meant to be very very sporty at the time and are now pretty collectible based on their low numbers so oh my god it's all a mouthful getting in all this stuff but you really do have to love the personal luxury coupe the genre that came you know all through the 70s it really made some great old iron uh that's a lot of fun to have around
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today so let's just get into this car before the sun comes out and ruins everything it's already out mostly i picked this up from owl this morning my friend al this is his uncle scar al is a lifelong friend of mine he promised that he was going to have the car inside which you know he didn't when i got there this morning it was all covered with mist and dew thank you for that al but well in his defense he does smoke an awful lot of marijuana at night so
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all right so that's not staying up the way it's supposed to let's try to do this one-handed is not always easy and i don't want to scratch anything i haven't actually opened the trunk so uh if i ever do get in here we're gonna discover together what's in here there it is all right so what's in here is nothing but what we would want to find which is a trunk you've got a spare tire covered by the original little material stuff you've got a jack underneath it you've got a nice little padded carpet there you can see it's had some rust proofing on
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it and everything lovely and proper under here al's uncle owns the car uncle tommy i believe his name a very particular guy um this is not his by by any stretch his most valuable car this one was probably a lark uh he's uh you know really into the uh you know the hurst olds and the 442s and the judges and we'll probably get into some of that stuff as we go if he's kind enough to let us do them but uh anyway there it is
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the trunk you can see the jacking instructions there uh you know a nice size uh nice tan lamps uh behind here you've got the uh lovely hidden gm gas store where you flip the license plate down and you know classic 70s stuff while these things did appear in a lot of tv in the movies i don't think any grand prix actually highlighted anything i don't think there were any detectives that you know made the grand prix famous they just sort of appeared as
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bit players in most of the uh of the tv and movies that they were in which was a lot let's have a look under the hood [Music] okay so here it is there is a 400 6.6 liter pontiac v8 uh this is the same engine that would have been in the trans ams at the time uh in california this would have been 403 olds which just wasn't as hypo as the pontiacs and the pontiac you know pontiac
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part of the reason it was not available for sale in california is they really clung to their performance longer than the other companies did the 400 pontiac was still putting out over 200 horse in this incarnation it was still a pretty torquey pretty excellent engine and it's wonderful that it's in this particular car it really motivates it down the road i'm not better than 301 uh it could have come with uh would have or even the 350. so uh you can see everything under here is
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absolutely lovely you're a pontiac well by then it was corporate blue i believe that i went to corporate black so that's still pontiac blue that engine um you know still the original uh whatever this is the accordion air cleaner stuff all in nice shape all very lovely and you know befitting of a car al's uncle would like so nice to see that it's also air conditioned but uh anyway everything lovely under there and still made it to a turbo hydra transmission no manuals available in the grand prix
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at all for this year or this generation in total but absolutely fantastic stuff i also like the hidden wipers they go behind the hood and they sit on nice little perches there and they're aluminum which is a lovely look man is that a cool hood and i love the beauty stripe down the middle going into that grand prix uh hood ornament the split pontiac grill which is of course uh historical the four quad lamps look nice and of course the pontiac wide
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track they were still advertising uh pontiac's wide track cars in this era and uh you know that just looks beautiful to me very unique and uh a nice i mean look at like the front of it's like a sea ray or something this car really does have tremendous boat overtones i have to really at pontiac though a little bit for their uh for their naming system i mean pontiac has the most inconsistent naming in automotive history they really really do i mean when you go through the years you could start with
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the torpedo the streamliner that went into the chieftain and the super chief and that sort of thing then we start getting into this weird thing with are we going to be racing are we going to be geography what are we going to be you've got the lemans you've got the bonneville you've got the safari uh you've got the parisienne then we keep progressing it gets weirder you get grand am you got grand what else the can-am uh you get uh the j-2000 in the 80s then you've got a series of
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birds and uh mythical creatures you've got sun fires you've got phoenix's you've got firebirds you've got uh trans am more racing the gto gran turismo legato uh delorean borrowed that from ferrari for the name of his uh sports car uh you've got the aztec you've got the g8 you got the 6000 you've got the aster the ventura the catalina it is just this endless mix of stuff that they can't seem to focus
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in on any one theme and finally they just did away with them all together but 2008 the seventh generation grand prix came to an end and that was it that was the end of the grand prix so okay i'm going to pause it here for a minute get my bag of crap in the trunk of the car and pull up to where i'm gonna have a little bit of shade to get into the interior and then we'll go for a drive uh in the meantime hopefully the goats don't come out okay we're back and rolling and one
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thing that i forgot to mention was by far i can't believe i forgot it the most important event of 1977 and that was the message from the ashtar galactic command uh you know this was a very big deal in southern england uh people are watching you know they're in england so they're what they're sitting in their flats listening to the bbc and uh eating chips and thinking about taking the tube in the morning and saying you know cheerio and having a cup of tea and all that uh
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actually they were watching itv when all of a sudden the audio goes away and in comes a voice from the future called the ashtar galactic command a guy named brilliant took over the audio of the of the television and implored humanity to get together to drop their weapons to join together in peace harmony and unity uh so that we could evolve into a brighter and more lovely future which obviously we did and that's of course where we're at
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today so uh very very interesting stuff and uh thank you verilion i think was the name of the guy from the ashtar galactic command who helped set humanity on the correct course uh actually a really great hoax and uh that you know somebody had took over uh one of the repeaters for the satellites or you know audio pickups or whatever the hell it was and figured out there was this little problem with it and was able to overcome the uh true audio of this brilliant cat they never caught him
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whoever it was and came up with this terrific thing so if you're ever bored have a look at that the ashtar galactic command i didn't know about it until i touched up on it last night uh anyway in 1973 this all-new a body and these special made bodies a special body sorry like the uh the grand prix and the monty they got a front suspension right off the camaro firebird to improve the handling of the car front and rear sway bars rear coil springs uh this was the first
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one first grand prix to have factory steel belted radials and in fact that was the famous radio tuned suspension uh that uh that came on pontiacs after that uh it had variable uh aspect power steering it had hydraulic disc brake standard and at the time was considered to be a pretty good handling car uh you know that may or may not be true anymore in terms of what we think of as a good handling car but back then it was and had a pretty
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modern suspension so anyway let's just get into it now you do have frameless glass even though you now have this common aid top with the fixed windows in the back at least the glass on the side remain frameless which is nice again i love the dipping door panel i mean that is just a cool feature and the kind of stuff you really would get from gm after a certain point uh when the badge engineering went crazy you know a cadillac cimarron you could probably put a door from that right on a
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chevy cavalier i mean there was no variation at all other than the quality of the trim panel and stuff back then they did differentiate their brands enough to be kind of neat and even the engines were different and some of the toolings were different they had some incredible options that you could get in the earlier ssj cars which i just read about black and white tvs telephones a lot of neat stuff so even though pontiac and gm and all the divisions were moving towards this weird
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uh badge engineered harmony where things just became too much like the other uh 73 through 77 there was still enough variation that the yeah the brands retained their individual identities uh if you got in a monte carlo of the same year as this it would be very very different in terms of what you saw and felt around you even if the underpinnings were all very much the same but anyway nice looking door panels big swooping arm rest there uh surprised that this bird i guess the sj doesn't have to have power windows
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definitely the lj would have but we got window cranks there nice door pull uh you can see it's got wood paneling everywhere in the 73 four and i think the fives that was real wood african uh crossfire mahogany uh veneer uh you know gm and their cheapness went on to make it um basically this contact paper stuff but hats don't look nice and everything nice and tight and proper on the door panel there these high bucket seats became standard
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in 73 a no-cost option you could also get a bench seat if that's what you wanted if you needed to fit three across and then they did have some reclining buckets you could also get in the rear seat and i left this here i didn't mess with any of this let me lift this up so we get in um you can see your canadians would be chipper back there i left in his uh his show car plaque thing that and also the pontiac hat because it's not mine to move but uh you could fit your three canadians back there in this and what do they call this malahide or
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something the the pontiac vinyl uh macca whatever it doesn't matter anyway nice vinyl interior and a nice little plaque he had made up for this car or bought it with i don't know uh you've got two speakers on the back package shelf uh you've got a nice fit and finish you know that's a lie in 77 it really wasn't that nice the fit and finish of this car it was good enough is what you could probably call it you know and only on well-preserved examples like this doesn't look this nice
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if you owned one of these things in high school or college and beat the out of it it would look accordingly bad today if it existed at all uh but anyway you have the three-point seat belts with roof retractors a little place to hang your dry cleaning which a person in luxury coops would need and everything lovely there in the back now again being sporty division i do love that angled it's got the whole wrap-around cockpit look that actually bmw gets the most credit for but here it is on a pontiac
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and had been on pontiacs through the second generation iteration of this grand prix look at the angled up center console i think that's very very cool uh this one does have power seats which with no power windows that's a weird order man uh really weird order you could also get rally gauges a variety of different options but anyway let's hop in fire it up i hear this big pontiac fired on life i love pontiac 400s i think it's the greatest v8 from uh from this year and to some extent
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before i turn that down for a minute this also does have a tilt wheel which is nice and mounts down the column the way that i like it and i like the fords at the end of the wheel uh it was a very big deal at the time that uh the headlight dimmers were on the turn signal switch uh in this case as well as the cruise control activation so you have a three-way switch well actually many more ways than that and then like porn movie but you've got your cruise function you've got your
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turn signal indicators and your high beam dimming all on one switch there on the side so none of that stuff down with the feet uh you could have had a tack here didn't have that option but you do have a nice set of full gauges otherwise you've got your fuel your volts your oil pressure and your water temp uh there you see hundred mile an hour speedo with um just 53 000 on the clock which is actual on this car uh here's your wiper controls over here on the dash here's your headlights
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nice stuff uh you've got your lighter here with uh you know a hieroglyphic of what looks like a zippo on it wonderful nice bit i don't know why they said big long lighters in the 70s but they did also your air condition works well with this car uh very nice the same one that was in my 79 firebird which is fun to see as was this badge the radio tuned suspension badge the very same here's your defrost uh this one has the upgraded am fm uh stereo eight track and i am in agony
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that i didn't bring any of my eight tracks with me i didn't even think about it so we're stuck with whatever on the radio yeah rod stewart i can do without rod stewart most of the time 99.9 of the time i'm happy to do without rod stewart he has his moments but not many of them then you've got this nice little pocket here for you know that'd be a good place to put a gun except it would fly out the minute you hit the gas so i'm not really sure what you could put in there that isn't going to fly out the
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minute you hit the gas probably nothing i'm sure it covered some uh option i don't know if it had a second stereo option or trip computer something you might have had down there but otherwise it's just a hole which is so horizontal that nothing's gonna stay in there weird big courtesy light here on the side of the console here you can see it's the modem sj again hearkening to that duesenberg you got a neat little these don't feel very well made for gm you know this is not the way it is as as
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time progressed that's a great little snappy ashtray cover and of course people did smoke in the 70s so you had to have a good ashtray you've got the same pontiac shifter you'd find in trans ams and firebirds very nice stuff and again a very well made uh little center console here and that is a good place to put some guns you could have all kinds of stuff in there even big 70s revolvers i don't know if you got a 44 in there but a 357 no sweat uh you know especially if it
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has a five or six inch barrel or a short barrel 44s with that big eight inch bear whatever never never you'd have to have a stubby but nice uh anyway fit and finish and quality on that i can't believe i'm saying that about a 70s gm product but there it is the glove box nice stuff all the books that came with this i'm going to pull this out for a minute just to see if there's any chance it came with a window sticker there's a protector plate there's the
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manual i'm not going to go digging through his books i don't immediately see a window sticker in here so we'll just leave it as it is but uh nice to see this car comes with all these original documents and actually there is a build sheet there in that back uh plaque so let's have a look at that real quick no trunk release but i do see it at a plug for one so probably the luxury models came with that but anyway there's the build sheet i'm
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going to zero in on that i may read it when i'm at my computer later because i can't see it now with the glasses but there's the lando top i can't sort of see it the steel belt radios the air conditioning uh you know all the stuff this would have come with i do not see where it's got the invoice total and that sort of thing i don't know why that's all wiped out but yeah anyway there it is close that big heavy door put the window down a little bit uh you see you've got a remote mirror over here we do have a mirror on the
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uh passenger side but i do not see where it has a remote uh here's a brake release uh so you probably just have to set that i don't like the dash mount like on that mark 5 it does have a remote mirror but you have to lean forward to set it which immediately takes you out of the position you need to be in to actually see where you're setting it so it's like a three or four step process where you set it by guess lean back find out you're wrong lean forward set it again find out you're better but still wrong
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lean forward set it again it just seems dumb as hell i don't know why it worked that way back then but you know that engineering wasn't um it wasn't always the the most brilliant thing in terms of absolute function it seemed to be much more about uh style which i guess if i have to balance the world today with the world then style versus substance i think i go for style i miss the way these cars look and how different they were from what we have running around today everything's so
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aero and egg-shaped let's see this isn't dalton's window so it's probably pretty good yeah it's not probably hasn't been cleaned at a while he keeps these things in a hangar so i'll pick it up again at the end of the street all right so away we go so the grand prix you know this one was even though it was all new in 73 and kind of designed with the gas crunch and emissions in mind it was still bigger than the prior generation longer and heavier i had 112 inch
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wheelbase but you know again part of that and the full frame design is what makes them ride so nice and i have to say that the grand prix really to me it's one of the finest entries in the personal uh luxury coupe genre it really nicely balances sport and luxury uh in a way that uh others didn't not quite as well uh the ride of the car the steering the crispness the feel of everything
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uh you know this car today feels really nice driving it around and i know it's a low mileage example but 53 000 miles on 77 was not you know it was not a super mobile car at the time if we go back you know to then uh and it still feels like new the the way the brakes are the way the steering is um it really does have a terrific terrific feel all around and that's part of why they sold so well was how nice the cars drove also the pontiac engines and even the
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oldsmobile and uh the chevy engine were you know very well sorted by the time it came out so they were reliable they may not have had the highest horsepower ratings but uh and they certainly weren't fantastic on gas even if they were better at the time but they were reliable as hell the turbo hydro transmission was bulletproof the uh the rear axle was you know solid and indestructible uh everything was well sorted on this car so it became very cherished on the used car market and
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these cars got a lot of kids in the 80s through high school and college and first jobs and uh you know they could be bought cheap they started every day they were just like old faithful really terrific cars and that's why a lot of people look back with fond memories of them and even though i didn't have a grand prix at the time or really get subjected to anyone who did i can see the charm i can see the charm i love the big long hood with the hood ornament guiding the way i like the feel of the bucket seats pretty easy to find a nice comfortable
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position and what a terrific boulevard cruiser uh which is probably why these things are really starting to tick up on the collector market they were forgotten for a while but not anymore you know now real nice examples are fetching uh you know twice of what they used to in just a few short years and yeah i get it you know time marches on and people realize what they've been missing collectors realized just how good and they made a load i mean at 280 077 so what a great collector car
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you're not going to have too much of a trouble finding parts and trim and pieces you know there were so many out there and i'm sure there's a lot of them rotting away in arizona junkyard so fenders and doors and all that stuff really just shouldn't be a problem and of course the corporate v8s they're easy to get parts for so uh what a great fun way to have a collectible car i wish this one was for sale it's not he loves it you know i will say this everything's for sale everything's always for sale uncle tommy sells stuff
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that he says he's not going to so maybe he'll sell this one i don't know but uh don't don't call out a house of naples and ask about it it's not one of their cars and they won't know what the hell you're asking about uh this is just one that i borrowed again from a private collection so uh you know i'll make another little short video on it if it ever does come for sale and you're interested in it so anyway there it is 1977 pontiac grand prix third generation grand prix out of uh seven total and uh it
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is certainly the most prolific the one that sold the most of all so you could call it the most successful grand prix of all time especially the 77 the most prolific year and a lovely car to drive a nice car to look at and uh a very nice car to drive so thanks very much for having a look appreciate it i'm taking it back to all's place and no highway trip today uh but uh i've got a really nice mark iii coming up but that's an auto house car uh probably have that on thursday and then we'll see what else we can put
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together so thanks for having a look appreciate it and we'll see you with the next one you

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