There's 'every reason' to believe Russia will invade Ukraine: Gen. Keane

There's 'every reason' to believe Russia will invade Ukraine: Gen. Keane

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MARIA: ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH, CHERYL. THE UNITED STATES AND RUSSIA REMAIN AT A STANDSTILL THIS MORNING AFTER THE FIRST DAY OF NEGOTIATIONS HAD THIS WEEK OVER RUSSIA'S MILITARY BUILDUP AT THE BORDER OF UKRAINE. THE TWO SIDES REMAIN AT ODDS OVER MOSCOW'S DEMANDS THAT UKRAINE BE BARRED FROM JOINING NATO. U.S. DEPUTY SECRETARY OF STATE WENDY SHERMAN CALLING THE SECURITY GUARANTEE A NONSTARTER. RUSSIA'S DEPUTY FOREIGN MINISTER HAS PUTIN HAS NO INTENTIONS TO ATTACK UKRAINE AND THE WEST
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SHOULD NOT FATHER ANY -- SHOULD NOT FEAR ANY ESCALATION. JOINING US NOW, GENERAL JACK KEANE. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. THERE'S A MEETING IN BRUSSELS TOMORROW. ARE YOU EXPECTING ANY PROGRESS WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON WHAT WE'RE HEARING FROM THE RUSSIANS? >> WELL, CERTAINLY I THINK WE ARE WHERE WE THOUGHT WE WOULD BE, AT AN IMPASSE. OBVIOUSLY MR. PUTIN HERE HAS GOTTEN SOMETHING HE'S WANTED FOR THE 22 YEARS HE'S BEEN IN POWER AND THAT IS HE'S HAVING DISCUSSIONS WITH THE UNITED STATES AND AS YOU INDICATED WITH
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THE NATO LEADERS ON WEDNESDAY OF RECONSTRUCTING THE EUROPEAN SECURITY TEXTURE AND -- ARCHITECTURE AND MOVING THAT IN A DIRECTION TO HIS FAVOR. THAT'S WHAT'S ON THE TABLE HERE, CERTAINLY. THE IMPASSE OVER UKRAINE BECOMING A MEMBER OF NATO IS AT THE HEART OF THIS. YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT IT, PUTIN'S POLICY, HE CAME INTO CRIMEA AND EASTERN UKRAINE BECAUSE THE PEOPLE OF UKRAINE THREW OUT HIS STOOGE WHO WAS RUNNING THE GOVERNMENT AND AS A
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RESULT OF THAT, PUTIN BELIEVED THAT THAT WOULD GALVANIZE THE PEOPLE TO MOVE TOWARDS RUSSIA, THAT INDEED BECAUSE OF THE HISTORIC AND CULTURAL TIES THAT THEY WOULD TURN FROM MOVING TOWARDS THE WEST BUT THEY WOULD MOVE TOWARDS RUSSIA AND THE EXACT OPPOSITE HAS HAPPENED, MARIA. THE UKRAINIANS ARE MOVING AWAY FROM RUSSIA IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY WANT. THEY WANT ECONOMIC INTEGRATION WITH THE WEST AND SECURITY INTEGRATION AS WELL. AND THAT'S AT THE HEART OF HIS FRUSTRATION HERE. BUT HE MAY BE SUCCESSFUL IN THIS.
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WHILE THE UNITED STATES AND NATO WILL NEVER MAKE A PUBLIC STATEMENT THAT UKRAINE IS GOING TO BE BARRED FROM NATO OR NATO IS NOT GOING TO EXPAND ANY FURTHER, THAT'S JUST NOT GOING TO BE ON THE TABLE FOR THE UNITED STATES OR NATO. DE FACTO, HE MAY ACCOMPLISH JUST THAT BECAUSE THE UNITED STATES AND EUROPEAN NATIONS, THEY HAVE NO INTENTION OF BRINGING UKRAINE INTO NATO IN THE NEAR TERM. THAT'S JUST A FACT. AND IT MAY LITERALLY BE OFF THE TABLE FOR YEARS TO COME. MARIA: SO DO YOU BELIEVE THE
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RUSSIANS WHEN THEY SAY THERE'S NO REASON TO BELIEVE THAT RUSSIA WILL ATTACK UKRAINE? >> I BELIEVE THERE'S EVERY REASON TO BELIEVE THAT RUSSIA WILL INVADE UKRAINE. THE EVIDENCE IS THERE. 110,000 TROOPS AND HE'S INCREASING THOSE TROOPS AS WE SPEAK. CERTAINLY, IF HE GETS THE CONCESSIONS HE THINKS HE MAY BE ABLE TO GET BECAUSE OF THE WEAKNESS OF THE EUROPEAN LEADERS AND WHAT HE BELIEVES IS THE WEAKNESS OF THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION, THEN, YES, HE DOESN'T HAVE TO USE THOSE
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TROOPS. HE'S USING THEM AS A DEMONSTRATION, AS LEVERAGE TO GET THOSE KIND OF CONCESSIONS. I THINK THE UPCOMING MEETINGS WITH THE NATO LEADERS IS REALLY CRUCIAL BECAUSE GERMANY AND FRANCE BOTH HAVE BEEN SOFT ON RUSSIA. AND HE HAS TALKED TO BOTH OF THOSE LEADERS, PUTIN, THAT IS, LAST WEEK. AND WE'LL SEE IF THEIR SPINE IS AS STIFF AS IT NEEDS TO BE ALONG WITH THE UNITED STATES BEING ON THE SAME PAGE AND NOT 2308DING TO THESE PLEASURES -- FOLDING TO THESE PRESSURES.
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THAT'S WHAT PUTIN WANTS. HE WANTS TO SEE DIVISION HERE SO HE CAN GET SOME CONCESSIONS AND I SUSPECT HE'S ALREADY GOT THE GERMANS AND FRENCH MOVING IN HIS DIRECTION SOMEWHAT. WE'LL SEE. THE MEETING ON WEDNESDAY WILL BE CRUCIAL. MARIA: OF COURSE, WITH THE NORD STREAM PIPELINE AND THE PARTNERSHIP THERE IN TERMS OF THEIR NEED FOR ENERGY. WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF CHINA INSERTING ITSELF? THE CHINESE FOREIGN MINISTER OFFERED KAZHAKSTAN LAW ENFORCEMENT, SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCES, AS THAT COUNTRY DEALS WITH THE VIOLENT ANTI-GOVERNMENT
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PROTESTS AND RUSSIA SENT TROOPS TO HELP. OF COURSE, RUSSIA DEPLOYED FORCE TOSS TO THE COUNTRY AS WELL. CHINA'S NEW OFFER NOW COULD PLACE THE TROOPS FROM RUSSIA AND THE CCP IN KAZHAKSTAN AT THE SAME TIME, GENERAL, WHERE THEY'VE BOTH BEEN COMPETING FOR INFLUENCE. YOUR THOUGHTS ON THE CHESS GAME HERE? >> WELL, FIRST OF ALL, THE RUSSIAN TROOPS ARE THERE FOR THE SAME REASON THAT WE HAVE ISSUES WITH UKRAINE. THE PEOPLE ARE RESENTING THE GOVERNMENT AS A SOVIET STYLE
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GOVERNMENT TIED TO PUTIN THAT IS NOT GIVING THEM THE QUALITY OR LIFE EXPERIENCE THEY WANT. THEY HAVE NO TRUST OR CONFIDENCE IN IT. THE SAME THING HAPPENED IN UKRAINE. THE SAME THING HAPPENED IN BELARUS. THAT'S WHY THE RUSSIAN TROOPS ARE THERE TO PUT DOWN THE UNREST FOR THE PEOPLE BECAUSE HE DOESN'T WANT THE GOVERNMENT OVERTHROWN. THE FACT THAT CHINA HAS RAISED THE FLAG AND IS WILLING TO INTERVENE IS A BIG DEAL. THEY HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING LIKE THIS IN DECADES AND THAT IS -- IT'S SHOWS YOU HOW MUCH INTEREST THEY HAVE IN CENTRAL ASIA, PARTICULARLY -- THERE'S ONE
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PARTICULAR COUNTRY, GIVEN THEIR BELT AND ROAD INITIATIVE. THEY HAVE NATURAL RESOURCES THERE, LOTS OF OIL, LOFTS URANIUM, A LOT OF PROGRAMS THAT CHINA HAS GOING AND ALSO THIS. THERE'S OVER 1,000-MILE BORDER OF KAZHAKSTAN AND XINJIANG PROVINCE, THE PROVINCE THAT THE UYGHURS ARE IN AND WHERE IN CHINA'S MIND THERE'S MUSLIM UNREST THERE THAT NEEDS TO BE PUT DOWN. YEAH, CHINA SEES A SECURITY ISSUE HERE TO PROTECT THEIR ECONOMIC INTEREST AS WELL. AND IT IS MAJOR SHIFT IN THEIR
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FOREIGN POLICY TO OFFER UP THOSE TROOPS. MARIA: ALSO NOT TOO FAR FROM AFGHANISTAN. WHAT ABOUT THE FACT THAT CHINA NAMED A TOP INTERNAL SECURITY FORCES OFFICER WHO HELPED LEAD BEIJING'S CRACKDOWN ON XINJIANG? THEY'RE NAMING HIM AS THE NEW CHIEF OF THE ARMY POST IN HONG KONG, GENERAL. OKAY. THIS MOVE COMING AS BEIJING IS TIGHTENING ITS CONTROL OVER HONG KONG. WE KNOW THEY'RE CRUSHING DISSENT, HONG KONG'S CONSTITUTION SAYS THE ARMY FORCES STATIONED IN THE REGION SHOULD NOT INTERFERE WITH LOCAL
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AFFAIRS. GENERAL, COME ON. THEY WILL NOT STOP CRUSHING DISSENT IN HONG KONG AND THEY'RE MAKING IT CLEAR WHO IS IN CHARGE. >> OH, NO DOUBT ABOUT IT. IT'S FURTHER TESTIMONY HOW SERIOUS THEY ARE ON THE CRACKDOWN IN HONG KONG AND TAKING AWAY THE RULE OF LAW AND DEMOCRACY. THEY'RE PROMOTING SOMEONE WHO HAS BEEN PARTICIPATING, WHOSE GOT BLOOD ON HIS HANDS IN TERMS OF COMMITTING GENOCIDE IN XINJIANG PROVINCE AGAINST DID UYGHUR, THIS IS AN INTERNATIONAL CRIMINAL AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED
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AND SHOULD BE SANCTIONED FOR IT. IT UNDERSCORES HOW STRONGLY CHINA BELIEVES ABOUT HONG KONG AND HOW THEY'RE GOING TO KEEP THE LID ON THAT AND THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE PUT UP WITH PROTEST DEMONSTRATIONS, ANY PUSHBACK WHATSOEVER NOW. IT'S GOING TO -- WHAT'S GOING TO TAKE PLACE IN HONG KONG IS WHAT TAKES PLACE ROUTINELY IN MAINLAND CHINA. AND THAT IS SIMPLY THEY'RE GOING TO PUT DOWN ANY OPPOSITION WHATSOEVER. MARIA: YEAH. AND YOU KNOW IT LEADS ME TO THE QUESTION, IS TAIWAN NEXT? IS TIBET NEXT? THERE YOU GO.
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WE'RE SEEING EXACTLY WHO THE CCP IS. GENERAL, A QUESTION FOR ANOTHER DAY. WE SO APPRECIATE YOUR TIME THIS MORNING.

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