Luciferian Death Cult – HG Wells, Arthur Koestler & J. Salk – Jay Dyer

Luciferian Death Cult – HG Wells, Arthur Koestler & J. Salk – Jay Dyer

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yes okay well tonight you've done a number of top of talks lately excellent talk so one that you have this globals book series and recent ones you've done hg wells the opah conspiracy or if they're Kessler the ghosts in the machine and of course I just had a chance to listen to your um they want on Jonas Salk the name was the name of his book again survival the wisest survival the wisest interesting okay and you also
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had a really interesting longer talk where you talked about cults Hollywood estrogen espionage and large-scale social engineering perhaps it was inspired by some recent events and that when you talk to wide variety Atomics here and well that's the big picture so first you this Global's book series HG Wells the Opel conspiracy Arthur Kessler the ghost of the machine and so five of the wisest by the venerable Jonas Salk so how do I get into that get into these things well uh this follows in the
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series that you could probably blink to do tragedian hope last year or year and a half ago whenever it was and from there we followed up with the Brzezinski's books earlier this year and then we looked into the subsequent carroll quigley books the anglo-american establishment which we covered hmm and then we moved as you said to Bertrand Russell and into HG Wells and Wells is of course situated in the midst of this
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priest class of Fabian's and world socialists in there is I guess some question as to how far into the plan HG Wells was really inducted or was he a true believer he really believed this propaganda and John Adams and I were having a conversation a while back about that and I think John's probably correct that it looks like Wells was probably not the most inner party guy but but was
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definitely a true believer in the anglo-american Fabian socialist Marxist scientist creation of the idea of a global Federation I really I see all of these movements bringing kind of from the same source of the banking power in the banking power you know wants to utilize technology Tecna as its central mode and means of bringing in this
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global order and global control and so what's interesting is that we're actually moving into that phase that they that they planned back you can even go back to the 1840s and 50s with the Galton's and the net family and the mob didn't even further back to Malthus the whole idea of Malthusian ISM and and what's interesting if we step back a little bit further beyond Wells to Malthus if you look at his sermons and
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essays he was an Anglican minister he projected on the basis of quantification a bunch of who do a war type scammer II of the idea that that there would not be enough food to feed the population at the population continued to rise so in a way Malthus was kind of the forerunner of out he was the Al Gore of his day you might say and so you get this idea of battle for resources that mankind is really only
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existing to compete for resources in a very strict survival the fittest mode it's not accidental that at the same time a Malthus in the 1700s you have the rise of you know prior to that the Adam Smith David Ricardo liberal economic theory which is also predicated on the notion of total competition social Darwinism we eventually get the character of course of Charles Darwin which suspiciously does not he does not invent the idea of evolution he
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repackages it into a naturalistic form so Herbert Spencer and plenty of ancient Greeks and ancient Egyptians and ancient Hindus head of course formulated this notion notion of Aeons of transmutation of species but it's really Darwin who pioneers the naturalistic ideas as well as certain other ideas that even later Darwin has rejected in Charles Darwin himself but so it's from this ethos that
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the this the ideologies or the propagandists of the the Milner Rothschild Lionel Curtis you know that this secret society as it's described by Cecil Rhodes the the ideologues of this group will produce figures like HG Wells so what I'm saying is HG Wells was a product of this elite education and all of these people come from Eton Oxford
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Cambridge etc etc the British imperial elite basically and so what HG Wells is that is a he was not from a noble family he was actually from a middle to lower question if I recall I bet he was I guess she showed promise and so he was brought into this elite education I don't remember which school he went to but he had a knack for propaganda and for writing and so forth so he was given
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all of the full education that the social elite of the UK get and as a result he becomes born and I would say probably the foremost propagandist you know it's not so much even Bernays as it is you argue probably HG Wells is the most profound propagandist perhaps of the 20th century because you know you might say Oh what about gurbles or so you know just a curb rolls or something like that well we are still feeling the
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effects of HG Wells with the Smart City with genetic modification with agenda21 with all of the things that that are coming in our future I don't really think we're dealing with the effects of you know the Nazi program like unless you believe that the Nazis are attacking us from the moon or something but iron sky the iron Scott there's dinosaurs up
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there - yeah so we so Wells is the originator now I'll have to give Alan watt credit for this because I know this until he mentioned it but HG Wells came up with a poster of how to propagandize against the the the Germans before World War one and he invented the idea of the hunt right this barbaric character he so he was very adept at propaganda posters and so forth and invented all kinds of
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ideas that would become the staples particularly of science fiction you know he speaks first of the atom bomb he speaks of time-travel I mean I'm there probably had been some character writing about time-travel before that I don't know but in our modern science fiction vernacular it's it's certainly HD Wells with the time machine the alien mythos obviously you know War of the Worlds and we all know about you know you know all the the the
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fiction tales I'm not gonna I'll spare us with that because what we want to look at is some of his non-fiction works which two of which come to the fore which we will we will be covering both in my my talks and those two books are the open conspiracy and the New World Order very easily titled for you so that you can figure out what they're about the open conspiracy is the first book that I
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covered and in it what we have is not an idiot you you might think that he's a little goofy or a little weird but no you're actually dealing with somebody who's pretty sophisticated and in fact because I had not I had only read prior to this his his fiction works I was expecting his non-fiction to be a little dull a little unsophisticated but it wasn't it was actually very clever when it comes to the tactics and techniques of how to infiltrate and subvert the existing
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structures and HG Wells fervently believes in the Marxism and the socialism that he promotes as far as I can tell he was a high-level freemason most high-level freemasons certainly seem to have that same penchant for revolutionary socialism communism Marxism but what he begins the book by discussing is the notion of selling an idea and that the revolution that he's promoting and he calls it a world
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revolution is not so much a party it's not so much the limitations of Marxism in fact he's very critical of Orthodox classical Marxism what he's selling is an idea that anyone can join and anyone can join this idea by simply adopting the basic principles and the basic patterns of subversion and he lays them all out for you very very simple very easy yes almost so it's kind of like in a way that you can easily convert to Islam just accept these four things right the pillow
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accept these basic pillars and you see these I guess these ideas and this for vacuum is of course being played out even today that's what I found this exactly yeah yeah you kind of see maybe a pre Saul Alinsky yeah character of Russell or of well excuse me because Wells says that this idea is viewing everything in a new way so in ways may
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be similar to the idea of changing images of man altering man's view of man altering man's view of everything is what wells was talking about he says that this will happen through not the erasing of existing structures but through the infiltration of all existing structures and the changing of those exists so in other words HT Wells is a change agent and what you will begin to notice in many of the globalist books series writers is this idea of the change agent the change agent again is
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not necessarily the social justice warrior on the street with the pink hair and the man boobs it's the it's the professor it's the the guy at the University who just happens to show up at your college from the Eastern Bloc countries yeah and if the OS says these are the change agents and change agents are of course well-funded as was HG Wells by this elite establishment class
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but what we where the book really gets fascinating is not just this kind of obvious communist type infiltration stuff but the methods and the tactics and the actual statements of objectives and what we have there is the abolition of private property the abolition of family evolution of the nuclear family traditional family abolition of gender roles those typical type things that you might expect in again social justice or
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you see Wells was saying this 100 years ago he describes the implementation of a completely new economy a global economy not based around individual Commerce sound finance sound money anything like that but rather total technocracy we have the the suggestion of the total reorganization of society into planned communities not just a plan community in the sense of like a retirement community
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where you pay your homeowner's association but although actually I believe those things are preparations for that because of the very bizarre examples of zoning laws and things like this that we're seeing in a lot of these planned communities you're very strange rules in some of these you know sort of upper suburban areas do you know I'm talking about yes exactly - yeah right and I think these are in a way probably preparations for because this fits into what you talked about with you Michael
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Jones with the creation of suburbia you know it's it doesn't just end with the dissolution of ethnic neighborhoods there's a final goal which is HG Wells level stuff basically looking hey you need the atomization first exactly right you got to break down before you build back up and you will find that actually in many of these globalist writers - is this principle of the the dissolution and breaking down and then they reassembling of the same which is why as we will mention here in a moment Kessler
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will actually use our chemical terminology yeah but so for Wells a couple more points that we we should hit on as the the very fascinating statement that the the pacifists and the liberal economic ideologues are not enemies according to HT Wells so in other words HG Wells would find a common favor
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amongst libertarians and in fact this is something that he critiques the Marxist of in the book is that he says you're too short-sighted Marxist you saw all of life as economic theory and modes of production he said that's not life life is much more than that life is you know aesthetics life is family life is all these things life is the environment blah blah he says you got to realize that the revolution is is total the final revolution that actually talked about and so what that requires
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is Masri education so the schools are one of the first places that are gonna have to be infiltrated in the modes of pedagogy and education will have to be altered and changed this by the way is why I think you're correct in the opening statements that you made that more individual and homeschooled type movements are really going to be the the best means going forward to counteract this system and I think that the traditional universities and school systems are but they're already kind of
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dying away and I think that individuals can basically if they're they have enough energy and go get an attitude they can educate themselves and so really you don't really you don't need that archaic system anymore we won't we won't be I mean I'm not trying to be totally apocalyptic I'm saying that you can work outside that system that's essentially what I tried to do with what I do is to set up means and modes for not having to rely on the traditional university system and being stuck in
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some professorship where you know I have to affirm Darwinism or abortion or euthanasia or whatever to get a job promotion and I think that that will a lot more people are going to opt for that kind of a thing as the techni technocratic era comes to the fore anyway what I'm getting at is that you can wonder percent see this in wells as he predicts and says all this is coming into play he says that the nation-state has to be destroyed and one way that
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they can do that is through the promotion of pacifism and all liberal groups so he's not just kids aren't worth promoting Marxism he's America's concerned with promoting any liberal groups including libertarian and free trade proponents because they have the effect of destroying existing cultures and for HG Wells that's double plus good you can't yeah because through commerce and trade you break down local
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cultures and traditions and even you see this with the Starbucks McDonald's Target I was going to say yeah I mean anytime you go to a nice city if you drive down to to Florida and you find you know some kind of cool Enclave that's like st. Augustine or st. Augustine which is the oldest city in America right and you go downtown and it has this total Spanish vibe mm-hm you know 500 year old city or whatever I
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its spant the the architecture is Moroccan and Spanish and then you drive you know a mile or two out of town and then it's the CVS Walgreens McDonald's yes yeah and it's a very big contrast because a mile or two out of town and it looks like every other place in America then you go downtown and you find that you know there's a cathedral and there's you know ancient architecture and all this kind of stuff that's very fascinating and all these old cemeteries that are five hundred years old and what
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I'm getting at is that that is an example in everybody's city of the the incursion of corporatism and you might think what a lot of people fall into the dialectic I was thinking well what will HCL's was a Marxist socialist therefore he would not like the the shell and the BP and then Thea the Walgreens and the CVS on the corner because they're capitalists no no HUL is very clear that those he says in
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fact he says that there's a great line I wish I had the book here in front of me I'd quote it he says he says you idiot Marxist he says who do you think will bring about internationalism if not the international corporations and bankers he says who else has the means and the power and the money to do it yeah he says you can't have a world government without money behind it he says who else do you thinks gonna do it it's not gonna be you know some guy in a beret with a joint hanging out of his mouth you know with some hippie guy somewhere that's
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not gonna bring the global revolution it's gonna take the power of global capitalism to do that I mean examples of this sort of corporatization I was listen to Katherine Austin Fitz talk and she was talking like that well you can look at Las Vegas right it's gone corporate Bret he used be all mob and so the well that's the big guys came in the mob served their purpose and they were cast aside and she was talking about the crackdown of what was called organized
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crime a little mafia in the late 70s and 80s wasn't so much a crackdown on criminal activity was it was it was a destruction of the mafia because they had served their purpose in the dialectic in the process and there were there were deals with the CIA between the Mafia yes and then they you know they serve certain missions you know right where there's yeah assassinations some speculated you know that right the Kennedy thing but this you need just human trafficking drugs
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these things black but black budgets a bunch of funding and these things and you like mikono but I think even building you know things like we just Disney World things like that because you see a connection you know with with the month with the same people working with the Mafia yeah Maura Lansky working working with with with the Disney Corporation to build the Disney World no apartment have to imagine a lot of money you know a lot of that that liquid caches has got to be you know see me it's the money is laundered in Hollywood
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but she was saying in the late early late 1780s yeah this crackdown of the mob and attritional mob was was a severely weakened if not destroyed because the criminal operations are involved in when we went corporate we see like with Las Vegas and Atlantic City and she seemed to think that a lot of what's going on Hollywood now might be an element here where because of the changes in the entertainment industry you know the studio system may be on this way out with other means of
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producing like Netflix and and little bean evolution isn't he basically running entertainment yeah and the middleman isn't even anyone this is sort of a pushing out and that could that could be why all of a sudden these things matter now in Hollywood this the casting catches is a concern now and you see this played out in certain movies - I was watching him Fargo that the series and the second series involves the Kansas City mob going against their
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local family in in North Dakota yes I've seen Susan oh the German family and the you know they want the guy Milligan that hitman Mike Milligan describe how the sheriff comes to talk cuz you just stop at Empires because everyone wanting more that's not theirs and there's a lot of bloodshed can't you just not want what's yours and he says it's not just any one man it's the future right exactly he's almost like talking about the New World Order it's it's corporate and the beginning ceases where they're talking about coming in and buying out the family they're this mop that the Chicago
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guys are meeting with local public officials and bribing them to get on their turn it's gone in and he says it's going corporate and this is 1979 it's supposed to be so it's out that that's very interesting it's kind of it is and then and then it ends with the the real deep state who has the alien technology if you remember the end of it I haven't seen the end of it yet oh sorry that's okay bad no I I'm Mac I know that's which is very I'm working for it - about that that's very funny and others I've got mentioned it before well and by the
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way I'm not saying it's about aliens I think it's about the deep state has this real super technology yeah area 51 crap yes yes yeah I have my messages before that there's an episode of The Sopranos where these two mobs going to shake down a local business you know well from the new Bergen home they were proven association like you donate our to our group the police I know this is not becoming an area at the least of their hands full and we can
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help protect your property and the guy it's like a Starbucks type business and the guys and I don't have any any discretion the funds they can't every dime that comes in here I can't do anything they said what happened if the manager brokers got awesome guy's legs broken and guys I don't think they'd care yeah I remember that quote yeah Vegas how about the historic store window got broken I don't know they own twenty thousand stores I don't think they really care and they leave all the spirit at saying you know there's nothing left with a little guy anymore yeah that's kind of what we're talking you sort of see what
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you're talking about with everything's losing its local Flair or local flavor or what makes a distinct and that's this globalization process and and what's interesting about Wells is that you know I think a lot of right-wingers might be misled if they were to hear that that Wells was a communist or Marxist that that he would dislike international corporatism yeah and he doesn't he doesn't just like it he likes it he says
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that there's no other possible means by which internationalism would come to power and he says that all you idiot Marxist who are orthodox Marxist he says you just haven't been paying attention this is how else does this happen and you know what's interesting is even Marx talked about that was that there's really no other means by which the modes of production would become so advanced and so mechanized other than through capitalism to produce standardization
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and mechanization that would lead to the internationalism that would lead to the stateless you know Marxist world now Wells of course doesn't care for the idea of being stateless he's not really concerned with that but he does share the utopian idea and if anybody is interested in the full analysis you know they can hear the full talk but basically ends the book as we talked about before bite you know trying to sell it on on star trek trying to sell
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the idea of the real possibility of creating utopia there's even a very fascinating chapter on religion which is a little more sophisticated than I expected from him I don't agree with him but he at least had some good sophisticated questions that he was asking and you know it's an example I would say maybe of an early notion or approach to full-spectrum dominance he and there now there may be
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earlier versions of full spectrum dominance unless maybe you could count Machiavelli or something like that but I think I think hoping conspiracy really touches on environment it touches on man himself anthropology his atmosphere his genetics his his religion his education is Commerce and economic theory you know it really tries to touch on everything and propose a
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philosophy of the future you know and as many writers and critics of this kind of an ideology have said is one of the reasons that they these ideologies are successful is that unlike fatal ideologies they they offer a kind of eschatology a kind of future hope which a lot of ideologies fail to see the importance of future hope and Marxism is a kind of bastardized Christianity in many ways yeah but it does retain the
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Christian notion of some future hope or eschatology right and of course obviously it's not supernatural so it's just been transposed into the Material Plane where the idea of basically the Smart City no this is this is talking about this smart see that's the enterprise or something this might say yeah and of course Wells I'm sure beliefs and you know the world well he wrote that book a long time ago the men on the moon hurt me so he he seems to have pioneered all
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of America's great so-called scientific discoveries didn't he yes yes that's funny hat he could Tomic bomb going to the moon GMOs he had wonderful foresight didn't they yeah yeah he says that the court is the establishment of the world community will exact a price and you can tell what the price will may be well obviously it's it's mountains of skulls right oh that's another great point too I forgot about that yeah he does say yes yes many
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will die sorry it's very unfortunate but you know it's what we did to bring star trek to fruition it will you know as dusky said take mountains of skull mm-hmm and one thing I think another interesting quote that you mentioned was that he says the neural order will be in place will be imposed and most people won't eat won't even notice it right you guys right because he's all for the you know the baby and gradual gradual is all right and he said you talked about like getting women out of the home and into
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the labor market working and this would take their eyes off trials concerns like children mmm-hmm yeah and you see it all around you cuz well I mean obviously women in the early 20s mid 20s many of them aren't thinking about children that's when they should be thinking my husband yes this is a great point I'm glad you mention it I forgot to mention it that was that's actually how he begins the book is discussing that change happens and most people don't even notice it and he says because the
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the Fabian's figured that out they figured that the the most sneaky model subtle model of passing all this on the entire world would be through that slow kill model and he says he says you know people don't even realize that I think he says something like a you know 50 years ago you couldn't ride a train anywhere in Europe and now you can and he says therefore I project that in the future you know it'll be even easier to go anywhere in the world and he says
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travel the ease of travel thus makes globalism inevitable basically as what he says yeah and you never want to settle down anything it makes you um you never you'll never be content rulers rootless chicago part yeah and one thing that you notice of today's culture if you talk about no one in the early 20s is you know your girl he's talking about getting married it's not that's not even a respectable no it's do you want to be a lawyer do you want you know do you want to be the person on CSI
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yeah and a lot sing the semen to see who killed the you know I do kill the prostitute and you're gonna be like the people on CSI yeah and so yeah you gotta be a wage slave for some corporation that's arriving in the New World Order that's what you're supposed to be you know and that's why people don't notice New World Order because they've been chained they've been psychologically altered just to cut the perversion of college and that's why his emphasis on
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full spectrum dominance cultural political economic is so important and that's what he's calling for a world economic order if through centralized banking because through control of credit and resources you can more that you can guide most people to to their final destination which is you know which is a gulag or a concentration camp or something yes and if people were allowed you know commerce outside of that system if you didn't regulate and control all commerce you would have
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people setting up their own thing yeah that can be another bridge you can't have a guy who's you know has a successful business and provides for his family because did the purpose of him doing that is having a family and that's the number one thing that has to be stopped in the normal course of family in other words commerce goes directly towards that kind of stuff and that's why you cited that article Global Research according to to tala tear in Europe and the important function of the Bank of International Settlements in
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creating an anti-life very insightful article is because it was very good or quintet The Rose woman her first name yeah Julian Julian Rose yeah it's very anti life and it's yeah it's neither left nor right it's both actually and that's what the the befuddled contented anxious middle-class don't understand as they watch Fox News or MSNBC and worried about who's getting elected yeah right and you know that this plan has marched
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on unabated despite whoever's elected hmm that's the the big kicker but yeah I think that pretty much sums up you know the the wels section but Arthur castles interesting because course he's an interesting character I knew him first through his book darkness at noon a sort of a disenchanted Marxist you saw the horrors of a Stalinist of course he's writing that he becomes a hero after World War two because you have the Cold War so he's sort of feeded by the anglo-american establishment Arthur Kessler but he has uh spoke a book ghost
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in the machine which technology is sort of a metaphysical reality to all this right correct yeah the first third of the book is arguments against rank materialism and reductionism most of which are good arguments many of which I I made not knowing that you know as Kessler had made these named arguments but other had there have been for a long time people critiquing psychologism and reductionism materialism for its own inherit the contradictions and so when
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you're reading this you're thinking wow this is actually pretty good he's really he's really saying some awesome stuff and then you get you know about halfway through the book and you're starting to realize where it's taking you which is not to to dare question anything I like Darwinism itself but rather to something more maybe we might say New Age and we might we might be moving in a more New Age direction without shedding any of the scientistic presupposition so we
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want to keep the veneer of scientism and I almost want to say that given his penchant for spiritism mesmerism and he actually founded and funded the chair his estate funded the first chair of parapsychology somewhere I forget where but yeah it basically we kind of get this maybe theosophic type of ideas or maybe Rudolf Steiner type of ideas because Kessler is not at all saying that evolution is false or that we need to
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reconsider Darwinism or he's not even really promoting a theistic evolution it's again something much more akin to something a new age I couldn't really even find a I mean you know Dawkins kind of speaks in the vein of that he could accept pantheism yeah and I think that's really the best way to describe Kessler is just some some kind of Panthea which is basically meaningless might as well just be an atheist doesn't matter because by the again by the middle of
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the book we start to get these statements about well even though we can't accept materialism we noticed that biological systems have a holistic character and they seem to function as a whole in in the smaller systems within an overall system need one another to function properly and that actually shows that you can't have pure materialism because mr. pure materialism what wouldn't produce all these
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independent systems you know that the eye is its own kind of system that the needs tissue that needs blood needs nerves you know the heart the glands you know all these different bodily systems in a each even the cell itself is its own little computer Factory and then he goes into DNA and all this stuff and so you would one would think that he might question Darwin at some point but no anyone working for the behavioral sciences unit of the Royal Society is
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not going to ever question Darwinism yeah sure you that yeah but that's why the by the way that's what this book was produced for was for the behavioral sciences study of the Royal Society anyway so since we have holistic systems and since we don't have materialism but we do have garlotte Darwinism what's what's becoming noticeable in post 1950s writers who promote global as
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important globalist writers post-1950 is that they're much more amenable to the ideas of quote spirit it seems that they had that all kind of at some point agreed upon the difficulty of selling everyone on ranked materialism and Darwinism and so rather Darwinism can fit much more easily into something pseudo spiritual where man is evolving into godhood and thus the promotion post 50s and 60s of the New Age you know this
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is this fits very well with what what counselor talks about so we could see Kessler maybe this is kind of a predecessor to Esalen Institute or the New Age movement and what what he proposes is that look Darwinism is true because of mutations right there's all these mutations cells mutate we have aberrations in nature and therefore since man himself is an aberration in
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nature because the arising of man I couldn't believe he said this but he says the rise of the rise of man from pate from Neolithic man is out of cannibalism and he says a pecking man is a cannibal and so because pecking man was a cannibal we can surmise that that there's nothing inherently wrong about being parasitic on your own species and he says look we observe this in nature we all believe in nature in some sense so therefore anything that happens in
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nature is normal and quote natural and since cannibalism happens in nature since pecking man is the beginning of conscious man out of caveman state there's nothing wrong with with being parasitic and then he goes on to actually cite the examples of Aztecs and human sacrifice cannibalism not joking that's what he talks about he doesn't speak of it in a negative light he says look this has gone on and he says basically is this not nature at work
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is a Black Plague not nature at work and if the Black Plague and if cannibalism are just merely manifestations of nature there's absolutely nothing wrong with creating bioweapons to mutate man there's nothing wrong with flipping the gender of people through chemicals in the food water and atmosphere this is what he says by the way so that's what we get with this with this character who I definitely think was no I think you could definitely say he's an aluminous
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he speaks of Thanatos Greek for death as the operant principle in nature that is just as powerful and important as life so what I think Zoe was the Greek word for life so Zoe and Thanatos or equal principles in nature and so here we get this Masonic sort of dualism where good is evil and evil is good why because good and evil are just based on principles of nature in nature is both death and life so since everything is
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natural and since the elite are basically the highest and he shares this with Kessler with a salt and Russell by the way since they are the highest forms of evolution there is nothing wrong with them as the minstrels of evolution in acting basically a kind of mass killer depopulation he says because the elite function as the immune system of the
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planet this is what Salk says - that's so yeah it's almost so they've retained themselves yes and salted by the way with this funny because Salk actually tries to explain this and he says he says look if if you were the true priests of nature you would understand what I'm talking about and since you
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don't believe in it or understand it you're not the incarnation of Mother Nature yeah and nature's nothing sacred or special about nature it's just they're mutating all the time and it's just mutating process of life and death right so you can't bait you can't base anything on nature to as a foundation for behavior or it's normal or what's proper and and it's that they're to be experimented upon he cites Peking Man but of course was a picky man discovered to be a fraud yep
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oh well right docent machine is of course 1967 I think so this is prior to the outing of Nebraska man picking man and Piltdown man as frogs mmm thus again showing the the function of Darwinism in creating this worldview that justifies genocide more or less corrected as the epitome of the Victorian ethos anglo-saxon preeminence but that's not
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really anglo-saxon preeminence is more of a kind of degenerate elite intermarried into various groups including it does people always so how does this house words to have to do with the Talmud well the Talmud speaks of most humans as beasts yeah so you could see that this elite Darwinian ancient Hindu philosophy and by the way the British of course had that same penchant
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for the Hindu caste system right that can easily blend with the the Talmudic idea of most so-called humans not having a nephesh or a soul yeah and this of course you've pointed out that you know with Beck HG Wells he's writing the open conspiracy roughly the same time that Aldous Huxley is penning brave new world and it's a similar view and yes I mentioned brave new world should also be included in the globalist book series
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right but but Chris jonas salk in his book the survival of the wisest of course he's a I think he's telegraphic you're referring to you know survival of the fittest and Darwin that idea why Jonas archiver disturbing his views are of course madona jonas salk as the father the heroic figure who produced first polio berry okay we're back a Jonas Salk who your father of the polio
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vaccine here's this person who's pioneering vaccinations of course he he's an advocate of depopulation right yes one more thing I didn't want to mention on Kessler that okay that's fascinating was just that he does have that towards the end of the book those last few chapters that deal with mutating man yeah oh yeah and the mutating man chapter is a section that I included in my book esoteric Hollywood where you do have a discussion of a
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nineteen sixty six or seven CIA conference in San Francisco called the control of the mind conference and this was part of MKULTRA you oh you also have Kessler in a pretty significant section discussing MKULTRA and he's talking about the possibilities of implantable electrodes in the mind and what they could do with shocking different hemispheres of the brain and what I'm getting at is that Kessler
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was privy to this back in the 60s whereas most people more precisely because he either attended or knew about this mind-control conference in San Francisco that was funded by Radio Liberty CIA and at this conference they they literally do discuss altering the RNA DNA to cause various types of not just experiments but also mutations
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sterility cancer etc etc so you have explicit statements from these guys about what their plans are and of course I just want to make that clear it's also important these these these books and what's in them but the ideas that are contained in these books these aren't the musings of some crackpots these are people who are connect their high up and this is an order of the British Empire yeah honored man great writer of the 20th century and you can know n if you study the past 50 60 maybe 75 years
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you'll see elements of this program being implemented in various policies they had right the World Health Organization you know for example sterilized women with HGH DC hormone in the tetanus shots sterilize them I think a third admit he's a third of the Rockefeller Foundation sterilized a third of childbearing women in Puerto
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Rico in the 1940s and 50s oh wow yeah so and there's always this talk of contraceptive corn which way Mangal writes about his book seeds of destruction of course that all is the the biggest show GMOs and season these things GMO food being robbed in nutrients oh absolutely these things makes everyone sick and weaker right the reversal of a food pyramid back in the 70s yes under Carter right yeah so the new tree this is all part of that Bertrand Russell Bertrand Russell talked
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about through diet objections injected injunctions right yeah so these people this program has been implemented from you know at varying time varying degrees over the years you can point to and it's just a question of connecting the dots and stops stop seeing these things as episodic you know episodes or separate events there's a continuum here it's gonna they're not they're not discontinued discontinuous yeah oops exam UPS I'm sorry we did it again we accidentally sprayed a city in st.
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Louis with you know bio weapon oops sorry of course with Jonas Salk the whole narrative of the polio polio myelitis being viral I guess virus base and these things is somewhat dubious if you look at it was probably at least it appears to be this the paralysis that people suffered perhaps was something else but you know multi-factor pollutant poisons in the environment there was the DDT spraying that was going on there was
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a use of why do some arsenic by dentist at that time there's all types of a lot of things that might have caused paralysis but they blamed you know this polio myelitis is virus and they developed this vaccine there's actually crippled people which why they rigidly Salk vaccine was pulled off the market and the saving vaccine was put on the market and what they did during that period in the 50s when they introduced a soft fly was I think it was 1954 if I have that right at the very time they
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were introducing the the the the vaccination they're narrowing the diagnostic parameters of polio myelitis so what they're saying well as they chased they they didn't get rid of podia polio they just redefined it there are still kids suffering from paralysis oh wow interesting if I recall there's a lot of similar material that's mentioned and Haslam's dr. Mary's monkey bug yes good that's the sv40 that's the sv40 simian virus
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which that famous CBC clip with dr. Maurice Hilleman were you saying oh yeah we they're laughing about it oh yeah we put this in the vaccine and I gave a bunch of people cancer but it's a funny thing which made a lot of people money 20 years later mmm-hmm and it's hard to believe a lot of people don't understand or don't appreciate or don't understand how you know something as sinister could be thought of and implemented well
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remember remember of Bill Gates in his cop to lecture at TED talk where he says if we get the right vaccines we can get this population number down over the next couple decades yay cause the reproductive health mm-hmm you know that you were talking about that that the fan of Thanatos is this obsession with death mm-hmm you see that obviously in what we call reproductive medicine because reproductive medicine today has very little to do with actually fertility it's in effect it's it's it's crashing fertility and
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controlling fertility this is actually discussed by Salk so you're up right sokka in his in his survival the wisest returns rephrases darwin from the fittest to the wisest and of course he means the scientistic priests class the doorway nian priest class the servants uh you know of the rock killers who were funding all the vaccine inoculation mass inoculation stuff so what Salk proposes in this book is that there was epic a
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which was mankind all the way up until the time of Jonas Salk an epic a was the time of a population explosion and he says oh look we had these fruit fly tests were put a bunch of fruit flies in a you know bubble and they they they reproduced to such an extent that they all died and look at the graphs here and the charts that I have of the population explosion of humans and can't you see
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the the parallel it's very scientific it's all these graphs and charts look out we're gonna be like the fruit flies right so you have again the repetition of this old it's not a Thomas Malthus you it's another Malthusian scare tactic Crites crisis catastrophism and who does he site for all this [ __ ] we're like yeah the co-author of eco science I believe in the the father of the Ice Age we're all gonna die in the one of you know in the coming ice
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age of the of the 70s and 80s kind of big yeah the Population Bomb yeah that book right and this this of course this informs the Club of Rome and Maurice strong eventually in the implementation to 21 so this is interesting because I think part ellika is an entomologist mm-hmm he knows what bugs he knows bugs and well humans are viewed as bugs yeah yeah and it's the same yeah for Kinsey was a zoologist you know all right act like an animal everyone's an animal YUM but um yeah it the if you look at of
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course if just look at the whole history of vaccinations and public health and these things was the health revolution occurred before any vast mass vaccination program actually it can be attributed to just better hygiene public sanitation and better diet nothing to do with medical intervention and the problems of health of course we've had this tightening or increase of the scheduling for vaccinations and increased with a day of course a increase in chronic health
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problems allergies explosion allergies and of course not to mention autism which you and Chris have speculated could be a plan and when you listen to the videotape of Maurice Hilleman laughing knowingly tainting these things with sv40 virus say I think that would cause cancer the poly Ouma would cause soft tissue can she have the software now in the middle of a soft tissue academic cancer epidemic with young in young people which will also impress you know that will have an effect on fertility and life in these things and
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strangely enough it also some of these cancers attack parts of the body that had to do with fertility and nurturing with breast cancer ovarian caner this is exactly what Salk says he says that we as the priestly class must take on the difficult responsibility of weaponizing and engineering not just the principles of life in nature but also death he says that this can be done in various ways he says that we can cause dis advantageous
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or advantageous effects through manipulating the eggs the reproductive system of the woman or in in other ways the males as well so I mean he says is more than once in the book and you know had a Daily Beast writer who tries to defend all this stuff trying he was arguing with me a couple days ago and I said he said basically that everything I was saying was [ __ ] and I said well did Jonas Salk ride this book and it
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took him a few minutes he finally replied and said he said you don't believe in modern medicine so total straw man never said I don't believe in modern medicine in fact I don't even have a problem with getting an inoculation I had pneumonia year and a half two years ago and I'm very glad that I got the shot of antibiotic in my butt and it got rid of pneumonia so I'm not disagreeing with antibiotics and modern
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medicine what I'm saying is the notion that that that the local schools and local hospitals are following a big pharma mandate that says that you have to get 60 vaccines by the time you're however many 36 months old or whatever yeah that is insane and that is obviously something to do because all those same big pharma companies are the ones mentioned by Maurice Hillerman and that he was he in that case that were
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working with Merck and if you look at Salk and Salk Institute you know this is all connected to markcaswell Hillerman mentioned Salk so the Salk is basically an agent of the the corporate Rockefeller apparatus hmm he's just he's like one of the front men he's a kind of cross sagen Neil deGrasse Tyson of big pharma is all he is and he's that's why he's propped up as a hero on the cover of Time magazine yeah he's that Time magazine of course Henry Luce yeah they all supported Kinsey and they're you
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know yes good point and you put them in a white coat this is the age of science and there's any holds up some tubes with some liquids of color in it look a beaker and a lot of numbers the colors remembers I'm a timid I can't question that the numbers on the board I mean I can't question that so you know it's okay to give my infant newborn son a chef wrapper that is be a vaccine you know these things with full of mercury or whatever happens whatever happens to fall in there when it's being developed in China or somebody some factory in China right
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right and you know that's yeah so that's a again this the idea that someone would write a book like this with these manipulating or the pirating or manipulating of the reproductive process the port the intentional poisoning of the population with the purpose of curbing population growth is changing humanity and this guy's a hero and you're you gotta trust him to put a needle in your arm yeah I mean there's so many in different ways we could critique this
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guy and for example most of the modern Darwinian you know the the deGrasse Tyson Dawkins types would affirm that they are scientists and not into metaphysics however when I read John Hawkes book he's very comfortable consistently talking about metaphysics in his speculations about meta buyout biology and the ego being of man none of which is observed in a microscope by the way none of which is empirical all of
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which is a metaphysical speculation connected to his religion and he does actually describe it in many religious glowing terms so I'm having a hard time figuring out how exactly his use of metaphysics quote-unquote is allowable but anyone else discussing metaphysics would be called a kook a medieval superstition [ __ ] retrograde you know regressive next we could consider the fact that he calls any position that
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that claims to be dogmatic and certain egomaniacal and characteristic of epic a of man which is where man could be self willed in order to propel the species tour towards greater population he says but now we've entered at Bugbee and in order to avoid the annihilation of the species we must kill off most of the species so in other words unlike he says that that if you are objective in your morals and your beliefs and your views and if you're dogmatic he says you are
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regressive and part of epic a of mankind which is done with you are you are part of devolution he says that we the scientific priests class are part of epic V which is where the scientists step forward to engineer evolution to control population on a mass level and thus the survival of the wisest is the only way for the species to go into the future so in other words hit by his own qualifications being the most dogmatic
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imaginable he himself has refuted himself because he says that if you're dogmatic you're part of the old but he has the most dogmatic view imaginable because he actually says that there need to be structures in place to get rid of people that believe in absolute as morals or God or any of that stuff basically tradition Christians or conservatives need to need to be killed as what he's saying yeah which is why they've this group has always promoted all sort of this ecumenical mysticism you know which has spirituality but no
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real doctrine or faith or morality but wait a minute though now on one level that's right but what I'm saying is that this is actually a trick and behind those idiots who believe that nonsense you actually have the most fanatical zealot religion ever that is intent on being way more extreme than the Inquisition yeah in other words the Inquisition didn't say that everybody had to die and here you
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have these religious zealots saying in order for the species to survive we must enact genocide yeah yeah yeah I think you made the point out under traditional society or religions the that there are certain strictures or rules about how we you conduct yourself how you live and these things how you behave but they don't have speech codes or thought codes there's no thought crimes and but under them under these people there's actually there's speech codes there's thoughtcrime
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all these things so they've been far more restrictive than any traditional religion in the final analysis yeah that's a great point yeah you know and you know I remember years ago Alex Jones would talk about how the agenda21 people cite the Aztecs and the Incas and the Mayas as potential kinds of religions to emulate in the future with the great that the green movement could learn from those kinds of catapult Stickles and I thought that sounded a bit extreme I was like where is he getting that and he
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meant he would always mention some UN documented I never could find it and now that I've actually read some of these guys that's actually not far-fetched I mean that would Kessler says that he's a fan of the Aztecs and the Mayans and you know salt could easily fit into that because salt says like cussler that that death is as death is natural and if death is natural then there's there's
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not really any metaphysical distinction between birthing and killing they're just actions there's not one better or less than the other yeah you know ultimately speaking you might not like it but there's not one better or less than the other yeah it's just a vast cosmic you know process that's all there is to it so what I'm getting at is that I didn't really go into this in depth but I'm sure people some people will take issue with this but this is a very
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strong argument against the istic evolution by the way because anyone who espouses theistic evolution essentially has to believe that death is in some sense natural and that death occurred for millions of eons and you know prior to the rise of Adam and Eve or you know caveman or whatever you believe in and if death is natural I would challenge anyone to explain how Kessler and Salk are wrong how is how is death not just
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as good or necessary as life you know and I think I don't want to necessarily try to get into an argument argument or go too far afield but this is one of the strongest points I think for traditional Orthodox Christianity is that you know we believe Christ is the antidote to death and so he destroys all of death you know Paul says this in Romans 8 that the entire creation groans to be delivered from the bondage of the corruption that hadn't brought yeah yeah yeah yeah so that's the whole point
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really of the resurrection yeah there's a profound philosophical um I guess you could say concession being made there we believe that the the resurrection is is very as cosmic in scope in other words that it will essentially remedy and not just the the the death of man's soul but of course the resurrection of man and the of the cosmos and that's relevant because it actually counteracts the full extent of what Adam brought in the fall and if you don't believe in Adam and Eve
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in the fall you really can't explain death and so in other words is that this is this is why for example Genesis we believe is part of part of Revelation in other words the doctrine of creation is not natural if you were like a Thomas or something but creation is actually a revealed doctrine that's then that's why none of these people come up with it Oh see a natural philosopher come to believe in the ex nihilo creation they never do
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they always propose some process philosophy or some sort of pantheism or paganism anyway I'm just making a point that you know what you what you do see in Kassel aren't salk is them in a way trying to be consistent in a very dark way with the idea of the presence of death in nature and we thwi see the present world is very unnatural right Denton is unnatural for us it is not an all natural I always thought the attempt
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to rationalize theistic view with Darwinism theistic Darwinism was an attempt made by Christians particularly the Catholic Church when the Pope wrote that that there wasn't this like a contradiction there was a belief that somehow the evidence for darkness was so overwhelming right that they had to make some sort of concession which I've never found the evidence for the hardison be to be that compelling to begin with right why have you made that concession
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you know it's like yeah and it and it's very curious to that it's a lot of the these Jesuits that PI era and you know I think that they were already kind of corrupt by the time their their pioneering and really promoting this stuff and by the time you get teh hard to Chardin who by the way I should include a my globalist book series because he isn't important aluminous you know a artist basically sees Darwinism as Christianity
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I mean he reinterprets the entirety of Christianity into a process philosophy of Darwinism where everything is evolving to a kind of omega point which is basically just kind of big alien ism in some way it's a version of hegelian ISM process philosophy and Darwinism under the guise of paleontology and by the way isn't interesting that he pops up at several of these frauds I don't remember the exact ones but I think he's at Piltdown and you know he pops up one of the other ones logging the Morasca
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man I think he why is he there yeah and by the way he was so bad he was actually excommunicated divided by a de pies twelfth or even john xxiii and he was like really other I think he was rehabilitated but John 20:30 Furcal or something does that agree but to that effect but anyway yeah I think that these when you really look at the guys who are the exemplars of that worldview the Kessler's are the Salk's and the Russell's there's just absolutely no way
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you could meld those with Christianity and another argument I'll make to that you don't really hear people make much is it's not just a question of the difficulties of interpreting the text of Genesis 1 and 2 there's another problem and that's the problem of the way that Jesus speaks of Adam Eve in Genesis 1 and 2 which you have to soon say oh I guess those gospel texts were Christ just talking about having Eve as actual people and where he talks about the
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creation of Adam and Eve well I guess those are wrong - and then what you've done is basically open the door to higher criticism because now in order to save your presuppositions about what you're saying in theistic evolution about Genesis 1 - you got to now reinterpret or revise or redact the Gospels oh wait a minute oh I guess we also have to look at Paul's epistles because Paul talks about creation any talks about Adam and Eve right well we got to redact
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those too and that's that's the the ball rolling exactly yeah not a lot of people don't don't understand that you you have to follow through there too because the higher criticism I guess since the has a broad cultural impact of making people accept something like Darwinism absolutely dialectical materialism deny universe of the you know of a theocratic meaning and that of course that would be
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the type of worldview that the man who run the British Empire to want to promote because that's though absoluto nion world and you know these things yeah right is there any I mean you mentioned is it is this funny that was the process church to the final gentle good very similar this I mean I'm looking at this you know the good evil you know even when you get the passing of a Charles Manson who said I'm the devil I'm God right so he was when you what's whatever you make sense whenever said she can make out of his rantings
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you saw that in a type of idea that good good and evil have to have to exist therefore evil serves is God's will to be right because it's part of this process and if I had that if I have that doctorate in theology if we want to call it that correct and yeah interesting I was I was reading kind of an my modern academic approach to ancient Vedic texts recently and in the ancient Vedic texts there were a lot of similar philosophical debates going on thousands
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of years ago and the essence of those debates was over monism and dualism and what you'll see in the history of philosophy not just an ancient Eastern but in the history of Western philosophy up into the Greeks and so forth especially with the Egyptians to the hermetica is the same kind of debate into Plato and to Aristotle up into you know the medieval guys and then into especially somebody like Hegel or Whitehead whose whole philosophy is basically process philosophy and then
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Darwin - or Marx is this dialectic of them one of the many and the idea here is basically is funding is fundamental base one thing or two things or more is it one thing or many things and so what you get is a tension there's an assumption that there's a tension between monism which is the idea that all reality is one thing or a dualism that all reality is a fundamental positive negative day/night
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black-white right and this is characteristic of course of like many ancient Far Eastern like Chinese Shinto Taoist type views so the reason this is relevant is that most world religions will actually fall into one of those two categories and even I'm not obviously a fan of ancient Hinduism but I'm saying that they kind of noticed this interestingly that they were all debating a man everything's either one thing or a bunch of things so what
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you're getting at with the examples of the modern cults are really just manifestations of that same problem where fundamental reality is conceived of as if you conceive of it as one thing then everything that manifests is essentially an illusion because anything that's distinct is illusory this is why they have that the doctrine of Maya in ancient Hindu philosophy it's just illusion because everything's just one thing right and atom ism is in a way a
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kind of version of this because they're saying oh yeah it looks like there's a table and there's a chair and there's me and there's you but really at base we're just atoms so the distinctions they're all meaningless because we all just return to being meaningless bouncing atoms and then we come back in some new form perhaps okay and then you have well maybe it's dualism maybe everything is a fundamental positive negative charge or day and night black and white but there's not really any clear way to distinguish at times which
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is which and so ironically a lot of times dualism will often collapse into monism or solipsism a great example this would be Descartes de cartes philosophy for example it's posits a strong dialectical tension or contrast between the body and the soul so one might think that des cartes view is very dualistic or Clark do you know this is Cartesian dualism as it's often called however the more that you delve into
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Descartes the more difficult it became for Descartes to figure out whether there was an external world of body at all in other words isn't it all just in his mind yes in other words Descartes philosophy of dualism very easily slipped into solipsism in solipsism is just another version of monism because it says that all that exists is mind everything is just a manifestation of my mind we're so we're back at Maia now we're back at illusion drink philosophy we're in the matrix man so so how do we
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ever get out of the matrix well that's the trick you don't you never know when you're out so what I'm getting at is these all the world philosophies basically world religions they all almost always dealt devolve into and fall into this basic trap and problem now the one that I believe is why I believe it is partly because they don't I don't believe it falls into this trap but that's a different topic but what I'm getting at is that process church is a very clear example of another one of
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these manifestations of oh let's just take one of the ancient debates of ancient religion and philosophy dualism onanism and let's pre-packaged it into a new kind of cult and and if you consider for example masonry as many masons do just a a symbolic interpretation of forces and principles of nature then you will see again how this very easily
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bridges to salk and Kesler because what you see in nature well you see a generative principle so there's your obelisks you see the vaginal principle so there's your vesica Pisces or something like that you see day and night black and white male female so there's your dualism there's your objection Boas you see all of this in nature and so since nature exemplifies all these things is there really any one that's
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preeminent over the Ottoman not really I mean positive and negative numbers right it's so everything becomes kind of encapsulated under under this masonic reading of nature and so therefore what I'm getting at is just that that that distinctions are again eliminated in in that way Jesus is just as much Satan as cygnus Jesus thank you which is blasphemous but what I'm saying it they are saying that it's just a manifestation of principles in nature
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and again what do you see in nature well you're born yeah but you also die yeah birth to death life death so it's all the same it's a I guess you couldn't could rational I was very easily just being a deviant or degenerate with that type of worldview oh absolutely in fact Crowley said the essence of cronyism there's I don't remember wherever there's some quote where he says that the essence of Kirlian ISM is that no act is any greater or lesser than any other act yeah which is why the this whole thing an inversion and
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transvaluation and thing is exactly yeah and then and that's how you will Oh everything balances out yeah right I mean you have that's why you have the black mass mm-hmm and something like sodomy is so prevalent and Kirlian mmm-hmm something cuz it's a you want I guess it's a what's the word I'm looking for well a a person of that you might say oh you come presenting pro-life well I believe in nature and nature has just as
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much of a principle of death as it is pro-life yeah which goes but what do you see what do you say a nature you see predator and prey you see yeah zees yeah it goes back to your what you're talking about the idea of the fall um and the notion of Genesis the importance of accepting that story because as a yes this is exactly what father Sarah murrow's argues in his gigantic Genesis book was it early on the book he says look this is why Jonas is so important it's just as important as the Gospels because
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you really can't understand the purpose of Christ's coming without a historic fall and that doesn't necessarily mean that we have to believe Ken Ham and every evangelical thing yeah yeah they're not properly interpreting the tax well you know we look to the Church Fathers and the council's and so forth the tradition of the church but but yes you have to understand that and another interesting point that he makes too is that in those early we don't actually understand what it was like in Eden so
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we as Orthodox we would say there's a there's a very disruptive state a very disruptive change occurred from the way that life was lived the in Eden as to the way life is live now yeah and so that's why we would not say either even death in the animal kingdom right mosquitoes or whatever that would not be the normal mode of operation in
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the identic state and this is why for example of people don't know this but this is why for example you don't have the mentioning of eating meat until Noah a lot of people think that meat eating was going on but actually it wasn't it's not until Noah that you actually have the allowance of beating me so that's because they're things were still very close to the identic period but I'm just trying to stress that that that we
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don't believe that Eden was it's not like you know some place over and Egypt somewhere on a mountain somewhere that it was actually a completely different metaphysical state of being or matter and spirit were not kind of divided as they are and I post false date and this is the way this is the way Paul speaks of it in Romans 8 so you recently you had a very interesting video cults Hollywood espionage and large-scale social engineering and in
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that talk you kind of covered well what's going on in Hollywood now and kind of explaining it giving your own interpretation what's really going on there do you want to quickly get into that or do you have time or okay we're back so yeah cults Hollywood it espionage and large-scale so generic great piece and yeah you can clear and equate thing Cueto you know which but anyway I'll let you talk about it I was trying to remember what all I said not talk I was
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I was exhausted that's been like the whole day on that one um I think I was talking about um I think I started with the do trove here yeah you know I found some documentary stuff on that it was neat where people who were directly involved in investigating it and whatnot said that hey looks like you know he was getting some help from high up yeah which you know kind of confirms the so-called conspiracy theory and that was
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because it involves you know high up people in government and so forth in Belgium and that what I was just saying is that there's we see these patterns with you know but networks that traffic people and so forth and then how the similar patterns emerge and the scandals of Hollywood people and we were talking about I was talking about the Harvey Weinstein case and that it actually came out in multiple mainstream news sources
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not just the New York Daily News and that lengthy piece but then it came out and I think Washington Post and New York Times - that he'd been using a black cube he was a former so-called former Mossad quote-unquote the former quote-unquote Mossad agency to track people who might tattletale on Harvey Weinstein didn't they pose as activist things like that and they did all kinds of things like posing as feminists and
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you know messaging getting hold of I guess Rose McGowan and other people too but I don't know what else did I talking about yeah yeah well you were talking well one thing is you you you site yeah the the the jatropha and of course and if you were looking to look into that read a day McGowan's book in it right I think a good 30 percent of the book is on desert or fair if I recall reading it
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there's a huge portion of it and it just shows you the sort of the high level you mentioned that the human trafficking kidnappings and sort of the sex trafficking Sirica leading into this whole types these Predators are our agents for for very wealthy powerful people they're there they seem to get away with this yeah very long time and you know and then be very well connected right but the you are with the Hollywood the hook the Weinstein thing is Chris the idea of
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the star was a Randy Quaid he claimed he was being harassed right and targeted and everyone thought it was nuts but this would seem to lend some credence but he was what he was saying back then how he can be targeted by certain by agents and lawyers and corporations to be I guess she become a targeted individual I guess to be harassed and and then ruined and have his money stolen from yeah a lot of people made fun of the star whackers claim for a long time because they said Oh Randy Quaid is just you know he's on drugs and
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he's crazy and I don't really know that much about Randy Quaid other than various movies he's been in so I have no idea what his personal life is like but I'm not saying pro or con but I'm saying that isn't it interesting that he said this stuff several years ago and it was kind of a viral conspiracy video at one point and then here we have mainstream news now coming out with a story that oh actually there are kind of star walkers in a way and he said this there's sometimes the student comes to conclusion that a star is easier dead
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than alive you know singer Brittany Murphy yes in the case of Brittany Murphy were both her husband and her were poisoned it turns out huh yeah poison they both got sick [ __ ] so there was some sort of heavy metal poison he or something was weird and Chris that factors into that case for that border guard Davis she's a witness and a very odd case stranger bizarre yeah after we get into that case Judi I think her name was Judy Davis or something in her her father was a retinue they raided her house and
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president was involved a movie production and that somehow untangled Brittany Murphy and that led to her demise and perhaps your husband's demise um but um in the video you know going about Hollywood and the coastal role Holly was played in large-scale social engineering and the whole idea of something like the Weinstein scandal I think is is itself I think a former
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social engineering social how come hear something yes and I think that you know you were talking to Chris most recently I heard that every interview then that came up and I think you mentioned you know wag the dog a couple times as reason he was in the the Lewinsky scandal and how that kind of got everybody talking about something very degenerate and I think that that's true and you can't find or I
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found a great example that in the the Heidi Fleiss yeah yeah you know Heidi Fleiss is basically saying that even she recognized that she was a cultural change agent you know I don't know how cognizant of that she was in the 90s but a more recent reflection that she had in an interview she was saying you know there's a direct connect from what was going on at that time in pop culture with pretty woman was out which kind of had this glorification of prostitution
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and Richard Gere and Julie Roberts and Madonna was very popular at that time with all her gross videos and whatnot and then she said then I was on the scene and she said I kind of invented the it girl and it went from me to Paris Hilton to Kim Kardashian mm-hmm and she said that I kind of prepared the way for reality TV and she said if you remember at that time there was hard copy and Inside Edition and she said that these shows
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were as she actually used some kind of you know some kind of phrase we would use like like a global cultural change agent or so weird yeah I you've been used so just you seem to be a you know pretty cognizant of what was going on at least nowadays well I mean the whole thing about the creation of the cult of celebrity I think is there to some former social an agent for social alchemy I think Bernays started the concept of the star with rotten enrico caruso the
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rock Idol was or the celebrity culture there how this started with the cinema of course and then a successful dish construction of a movie theater in every town in America and what they would have the effect they would have on culture you know obviously you know the whole idea of what a movie star looks like when the whole notions of beauty and an expectation of life and this coupled with increasing mobility the sort of a profound effect on American society once again it's sort of a destruction of local tradition and these things but
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this scandal no no go ahead no you go ahead so idea of celebrity scandal right no divorce and it's the fact that people are obsessed with private celebrity lives and of course Heidi Fleiss we had the whole thing with with this sort of sex life and what did the court begs the question why is this even news oh she says I normalized cheating yeah and so from the normalization of cheating it just goes downhill even worse from there yeah and so now we have all this talk I mean we're getting into the sort of
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details with louis c.k proposed yet for a minute in the hotel room now why is this I mean for when I understand there's no laws are being violated here it's just a you know rather strange proposal from a degenerate celebrity and he just even John Adams talks about this that's how a lot of these case he said she said and managers owning up to it yeah I did I'm sorry bla bla bla but yeah I'm gonna go get counseling now when they could just say it's none of your business what happened between you really you you have right to say that she may make that claim but it really is none of your business and then no no one
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says that when what was interesting enough you mentioned of course a pretty woman and I heard I think I heard us an adopt Minh that the apartment in that movie was Elizabeth Schwartz apartment oh wow I didn't know that yeah but she comes down you know I think the end I know if you saw a pretty woman a long time ago remember I think I was with a girlfriend or something and the end of Richard Gere comes again gets her her
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apartment she comes down the fire skipper i I'm trying to remember myself I think it's late 80s early 90s maybe nineteen eighteen ninety um but yet that was Elizabeth Schwartz apartment that forced him so that's bizarre yeah the black dahlia as they say right but yeah I mean this whole the all the stuff is obsessed in Hollywood and why at any moment in history in history olliewood you could focus on the casting couch and Kenneth Anger right about this stuff and Hollywood babble
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right yeah exactly and another point too is that you know I just wanna point well I mean a lot of the stuff is the the black male of course the function that it serves you mentioned also the you know the the DC Madame oh yeah I wrote a long thing about Deborah Jane Palfrey her her whole story and what was interesting was that there were
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80-something escort services in DC at that time and she actually asked a good question she said why am i the focus of a giant investigation and news story now yeah I'm sure it had to do with you know she had high-profile people just like Heidi Fleiss did in her books or whatever but that's probably just one level of it because you know it's similar to the the fly story because hi
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isis clients if i recall were mainly hollywood people the DC Madam's clients are mainly government corporate people yeah in other words you have the erosion and the the what's the word luggage for the attempts to portray all aspects of society as degenerate correct yet exactly and and what that does is in a
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way it kind of fits into what hg wells talked about that the way to we were not going to like completely tear down every existing institution he says that's that's the naive Marxist view this is what we need to do is infiltrate subvert and basically turn the institutions inside out from within yeah so what you're doing here is you're seeing the kind of not that american politicians
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wherever noble are great but i think what we're seeing is a in each area of life you kind of have a destruction of the institution to turn it inside out into a force for a coming technocracy that's even more powerful yeah so like you were saying earlier you know it's not going to be all these different studios you're gonna have you know a few select mega corporate interests that
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will control entertainment you'll have disney and netflix basically deciding entertainment hmm and making it of course making sure that people want to be constantly entertained are you not entertained and that's how you get the cultural change because because if first you need everyone to be obsessed with hollywood to have the effect of a Hollywood scandal right i mean everyone has that's a good point yeah it's deadly to politics to sort of the mix in the merging of hollywood in politics the whole Kevin Spacey thing
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right house of cards right good point yeah I mean it's like if you're watching movies now they bring in real news people to do I mean yeah yeah you'll see like Blitzer on James Bond yeah I'm not kidding you sharknado 4head Matt Lauer Wow so sharknado for so that you know not am NOT an a-list movie any stretch of the imagination
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no not a b-movie yeah so I'm embarrassed all this like yeah this is like in the 90s is that movie about with Robert Klein about the sort of like a play on the print The Prince and the pauper when he becomes president cause he looks just like the president and they started using real like news PP mentioned Dave Dave yeah yeah Dave so that was the first start noticing interesting movies certain the buttering but I've forgotten
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that you know the real news figures no I mean real yeah real media figures would be debating these things and that's how this the Merc the blending of reality and fiction and Chris what pops so much of politics so much news this is indeed fiction so what support but it's I think it's good there be an interview talk about Hollywood because as HG Wells would have considered entertainment you know obviously he wrote science fiction it was another point yeah yeah there's another point I want to make that is in my book too is a lot of people overlook
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the fact that you know we think of Hollywood as inculcating degeneracy and promoting you know sexual aberration and whatnot which is all true but we overlook the fact that all of these chapels in all the cities that you're talking about called movie theaters mhm have also taught everyone for many many many decades Darwinism and scientism yes through HG Wells stories through Star Trek Star Wars service cetera yep and
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they've done it through entertainment mm-hmm that's what you get everyone's rapt attention just to entertainment that's everyone aside most people see politics and history and understand the world is through the silver screen and that's well that's definitely one way to explain the success of Donald Trump is you have an entertainer he who understands business entertainment and no I suppose politics yeah because they're not really different worlds or that no they're not I guess I guess Nancy and Rhonda that a
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long time ago after playing with that monkey and the bedtime for Bonzo I mean yep but never Bowser Ronald Reagan the actor became Kim the politician and a governor than president and that pretty it's the same thing you know so so anything else Jenna you kind under the weather no I think I think that's all good tonight okay listen why thank you for you know being a trooper I know you're not feeling well coming back on that's great dobro J dire J's analysis author of esoteric Hollywood you can subscribe to
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