The Last Classic Porsche - The 987 Cayman S Was The Last Great Analog Sports Car From Porsche

The Last Classic Porsche - The 987 Cayman S Was The Last Great Analog Sports Car From Porsche

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good morning this is bill from curious cars and autohouse of naples on a you know i hate to say it it's a miserably humid florida morning the temperature is not horrific it's probably 80 but the humidity is already here and by the time noon rolls around it's just going to be crap and i know that's going to be an ongoing thing july is coming august is coming uh the worst of the months are ahead of us and
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probably my least favorite time of the year and what are you going to do but keep going so uh we'll do that but okay so real quick it's been a while since i did a video i apologize for that more than a week you know i did that little trip to north carolina to pick up a few cars which i did i'm gonna try to pick up a couple more today in naples through a friend of mine we found some a couple of interesting bits so we'll see if we can't get those and we should have a pretty good run of
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fun cars coming up to do videos on hopefully they also sell so i could replace him and get something else but uh we do have some fun stuff coming up uh today i've got this 2007 porsche cayman s uh which frankly is a little bit generic for the stuff that i do i mean it's you know i don't i mean it's not a 1977 chrysler cordoba or something i mean this is you know a car that's much more mainstream uh but every now and then i get asked you know what car would you
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own what car would you drive what car would you have what do you have and the answer to that is a silverado pickup truck which by the way i've also replaced with a very similar silverado pickup truck i'll do a video on that soon i did a video on the old silverado uh a while back but uh you know it's it's sort of getting along in the tooth and didn't have the punch i needed to do some new stuff so well anyway we'll get into that i'll do a review of the new one but uh it's gonna be hard for some people to tell the difference and that's great
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that's exactly the way i planned it but uh but anyway so you people ask what would you drive what's your favorite car you know that's tough how do you name that i mean it's like you know asking a musician what his favorite song is i mean there's there's just too many to choose from too many great bits out there in the world but i have to say in the top five is going to be this uh cayman s this 2007 six whatever this first generation cayman
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uh to me and others may disagree and if they do they could go to hell is the last great classic porsche and i will stick by that and i will fight it to the death and i'm not even one of these real porsche guys you know i mean i can respect what porsche is and what they did and what they do but i'm not one of the diehards not even close in fact i probably make more fun of them than anything else they're not quite as bad as bmw guys but they're pretty bad but you know i do get what porsche is all about
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and of course they for many many decades have been building sports cars that are beloved by a lot of people the cayman s came out in 2006 and it bucked porsche's system a little bit for one thing uh it was only the s model that was released when it came out it wasn't the uh standard entry model uh which came out the year after also it was a tin top version and they don't like hearing this but it's true a 10 top version of the second
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generation porsche boxster which cost more than the boxster thus bucking the trend of convertibles costing more than the coupes uh because of course you have this sort of big complex top-down mechanism going on a car of course that's going to cost more than just a tin roof but porsche did add a bunch of stuff to this car to justify it being more expensive than the boxster beneath it the boxster of course at least initially being hated by the purists and finally maturing into the uh really
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rather nice and lovely car that it became and remains today but i think the first gen is the way to go and to me okay let's say you take um uh ferdinand porsche you know the original you know engineer that that built porsches and you know we'll get into his history just a tiny bit i'm not going to go crazy on this video but if you brought him back from the dead and you know had him look at everything porsha made from after his death till current i have a feeling that this is the last car he would have recognized this is the
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last car that would have made sense to him uh you know you get into sort of the fighter jet style highly technological 911s that came afterwards and he might appreciate the engineering and respect what they did but they did lose some of the classic analog feel that is what made porsche what it is today it's the roots of porsche was a pure sports car and this came in s despite having a few little bits of electrical and digital accoutrements
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really is the last true analog sports car that porsha made and i absolutely love it and it would be on my top five list of cars that i would have to own personally there's a few others of course but uh the cayman said and in terms of being the sports car you know yeah it's like a miata on steroids and i'm gonna get some flack for that i'm sure but uh you know the miata is also a true on a sports car and the cayman just sort of improves on that theory by tenfold
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uh the styling of the car is quite stunning and it harkens back to many classical porsches uh i think primarily you've got the 550 spider not from this angle not from the front much more from the back with those big haunches uh over the rear wheels and the uh drooping uh hatchback going into a you know lovely little tail end there i think that's very reminiscent of the 550 spider you also have some of the 904 uh in the design and i think that's also part of what makes this a classic car
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you know i'm going to say very few cars are thought of as masterpieces the day that they emerge the day they come out and this came and man i think it qualifies it was one of the cars that was uh widely thought of as being perfect on the day it released it's not something that they came out people liked that they drove it and then eventually they thought i started thinking of it as epic and wonderful i mean it it got everything from the day it was built and if you're looking for something that's going to be a collectible classic car in the future
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a collectible classic porsche look no further i mean the cayman ass uh is going to be a beloved piece for many many many years to come and it's only going to go up in value but anyway so let's just start getting into this thing i think i have the key here we're going to start in the front and it's a word that i hate absolutely i get it you know front trunk uh let's shorten that and make it a frunk stupid anyway press the key on this button on
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this key and then we'll get in here all right so what you get in here is some nice storage space it's a deep it's a good size you're gonna be able to fit your infants and toddlers in there with no issues at all uh they could even stand on their feet and you know even when you close the hood you're not gonna hit their middle head so it's it's a nice place to stuff them and uh of course it you know behind this little panel here i'm sure we're gonna find all the tire changing stuff now that's where the tire changing and the amplifiers for the uh the bose radio so
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you know very neatly tucked up stuff from porsche very good engineering and design on this ground get that in later and uh all very lovely in the front so let's get that back down uh the proper way to close that is just let it drop click into place and then put your hand over that porsche emblem and give it a little push you don't want to slam that uh it's not gonna bode well for the car have a look here in the back and here we've got more luggage room and that's uh nice stuff so you've got the same uh
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basic trunk from the boxster has survived you also get this little area up there on top of the flat six engine that sets amidships in this car and while that is a departure for porsche i mean they weren't known for mid-engine i think they've made a few race cars over the years uh their street cars have generally been ass engine like the 911 and uh well you know like the 911 so that's something they've historically done for years making this car mid-engine was quite a sea change
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and a very dangerous move for porsche in some ways because uh you know you get into the 911 it's a thing that was created 50 years ago people loved it they absolutely loved it but it had this inherent design flaw of hanging the heavy engine behind the rear axle uh so it was lethal especially when you get into the higher horsepower versions i mean you want to talk about you know snap throttle over spear i mean it's going to kill you and it in fact there was a class action
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lawsuit uh when the original 911 turbos came out in the 70s because they were really really hard to control when pushed to their limits the sn would just snap around and you'd end up crashing into something and a bunch of orthodontist wives end up you know end up six feet under so uh it was a dangerous car so essentially the 911 had this big design flaw terrific sports car but porsche tried to correct the design flaw for 60 years with a variety of suspension
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tweaks and finally electronic engineering and traction controls and this and that and the other uh to minimize the uh really the incorrectness of hanging the engine over the asm like the beetle uh originally and of course that's where we get into you know dr porsche and where he came from apparently a nice young hungarian guy with an aptitude for engineering uh never really formula train formula she's never really formally trained he snuck into a few
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college classes to get some tidbits but you know more or less just a high school guy and uh he came up through the ranks of different companies in fact he helped to create the first electric gasoline hybrid car the first on record and uh then went on to do more engineering it was quickly noticed by the powers that be in germany and uh eventually became uh hitler's favorite engine here so you know this you're probably not going to find this stuff on the porsche website but
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uh he was instrumental in uh you know helping the nazi war machine with he made a tank uh which was a version of the tiger tank which was originally um gonna be you know of course mass-produced and used in the war but it proved to be too complicated he was a bit of a nut uh so it became some kind of a big gun thing instead it was called the ferdinand after him and it was used in a much lighter um uh numbers than the actual tiger tank which came from another
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engineer uh and uh the ferdinand was you know very powerful great gun but apparently it was so hard to maintain most of them ended up getting blown up by their own operators so that enemies wouldn't get hold of them because it ended up needing a set of spark plugs or something i'm sure a lot of porsche guys who take their car to the shop can sympathize uh but anyway he was part of the big nazi war machine eventually uh joined the uh joined the nazi party became an uber fury on the ss so he had a pretty high rank and uh
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hitler they decreed him to build the people's cart hitler wanted to motorize germany and he looked to his favorite little engineer guy mr ferdinand porsche who essentially came up with the original volkswagen beetle which of course porsche 911s were loosely based on for years afterwards and it proved quite a success and worked out very well for well you know not not entirely after the war the french took him they wanted him to work on a beetle that
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would be made in france french engineers and companies went apeshit over that they didn't want him there they didn't want that happening they're very proud of their french-only heritage so instead of having him help on a french beetle they just threw him in prison so he was in there for 22 months until his family came up with a way to pay some ransom and get him out and backy went to germany and at that stage volkswagen started giving him royalties on the type one beetle so he made some money and had a a decent life but then he had a stroke a few
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years later never really recovered and i want to say he died in 1951 and it was his son and the rest of his family who kept the company going in fact his son was the one who came up with the first porsche 356 uh which uh you know they made a bunch of steel-bodied ones they kind of cobbled them together they had no money uh because the factory the porsche factory was being held by the allies for war reparations they had no collateral so banks wouldn't help him out so they went around to volkswagen
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dealers and said look we'll build these 356s here's one i think you're going to like it but you got to pay for him in advance and that did happen they did pay for some in advance that funded more being made they originally planned to make 1500 and over the next 17 years or so it became like 38 000 so the 356 is where it all took off for porsche anyway there's a quick little nod to where they all came from and again probably not something you're gonna
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read about on the porsche website all the forced labor and the polish and the russians and whatnot anyway you know no matter where you go you're going to find that history is written by the winners of course so you go to japan you're going to find toyota and nissan and all these companies had a little bit to do with the uh the japanese war machine uh you know if america had lost world war ii which thank god we did because german i find to be a very difficult language to listen to and we'd all be speaking it now uh then
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probably there would be trouble for the americans who had been part of ford and gm and chrysler and you know what not so anyway there it is and uh there we'll keep going from here uh simplicity again when you had colin chapman from lotus you know one of the great racing engineers of all time uh he what was his famous thing he said you know first of all simplify and then add lightness uh that was uh colin chapman's uh vision for you know racing cars and porsche did take that to heart uh when
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building this cayman for one thing the chassis is 150 stiffer than the boxster with the tin top and when the chassis is that stiff you can use much stiffer suspension in the front and back without sacrificing ride quality and that is part of the perfection of the cayman that's how they were able to do that also they used a very simple generic interior partially from the boxster with a few cayman tidbits thrown in but it's a simple simple car the seats are lightweight the steering wheel is
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cayman only but it's light it's not loaded with buttons and gadgets and gears it has simple analog gauges a simple little center stack and uh it works very well it's lighter than the boxster which makes it of course uh handle better on the racetrack and we'll get into how good it is doing that late never mind in and out of traffic forget that i mean man this car is epic to drive but it is just absolutely beautiful inside to look at and uh very very simple i love the big air vents on the side
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uh feeding the motor it's a 3.4 liter flat six and here's where it gets interesting because porsche wants to position the car uh back in 07 or 06 between the boxster and their 911. uh the boxster is 50 grand they came in 60 grand and the entry-level carrera is like 70 plus grand so this is going to fit right in the middle of it and to justify the cost over the price of the boxster they took the 3 2 from the boxster s they boarded over a
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little bit to 3 4. they used the same heads from the boxster s but they took the cams from the carrera uh which were a vario cam set up and that beefed everything up to 295 horsepower which was a little more than 20 uh over what the boxster s had but a little under the 3 20 or so that the carrera had so um again they they did a perfect job in making the engine just fit right in the middle of the porsche lineup right where it's priced
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and a lot of people cried they said man this thing could use another 100 horsepower and it could but they did not want it to infringe uh on the dominance of the 911 they just couldn't make it faster than the 911 what would be the point nobody would buy the 911 they'd they'd buy the uh the uh the cayman instead so yeah there it is they uh you know they were pretty well bound uh having this great chassis but they couldn't bring it to its full potential because uh had they done so it would have uh cut
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into their sails on the much more expensive carrera the cayman by the way is named after a crocodile not the islands uh some sort of south american crocodile with skinny little mouth and big teeth and thank god we don't have any of those things around here although i will say if we had one maybe they'd have gone after the goats but that said i don't think we're going to be seeing goats anymore i haven't seen them since that day that they were standing on top of the boxster and i have a strong suspicion we're not going to see them in the future so probably it's safe to
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just say goodbye to the goats i tell you what i'm going to do here i'm going to pause the video so i can get the crap in the back of this thing get my license plate on it and then we'll do a little test drive on the way into work uh real quick though look at the beautiful brake setup in this car uh you could get a ceramic brake option but it was like eight grand and nobody opted for it uh also brake jobs would end up costing thousands so uh you had to be a real die hard nut for that uh there were also like four optional 19-inch wheels i can't remember what these ones are called but i think
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they're the best looking of them and the guy who owned this thing this is the 18 000 mile uh one owner cayman ass i mean this is the holy grail of cayman asses in my mind the guards read over black with uh the kind of owner who kept it in a tiled and air-conditioned garage with a bunch of porsche you know cleaning supplies on a shelf and polished it up on the weekend so you know if you want one to put in a collection and not use really the way that porsche intended uh this is probably the one to do it with
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anyway i got my crap in there and we'll go for a spin all right so as long as we're talking about top five favorite cars uh wedged in here a little bit awkward to me is peter's uh late 80s 560 sec i want to see it's an 87 or 88 and that is another one of my top five it's weird the two german cars top the best i mean obviously i've been doing german cars for years but uh the the american iron is where my love really is with the great exception of the cayman s and uh of course
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a uh 126 coupe like this one you could you know you could almost add a 123 wagon as well so i might have to expand the list a little bit and get make it a top 10 because you know we're getting full already with three german cars and we barely even got started but uh this is another car i'm gonna be doing a review of down the road uh if i can put it together but you know not for a while because i got a bunch of cars i gotta sell first before i'm doing ones that aren't for sale anyway let's keep going nope we got honks
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as i'm getting honked at this morning and spoken to what the hell was that oh man look at the beautiful way that whole tail end comes together on this car i love the little twice pipes at the bottom you know in the center uh the little bumperettes and body color the cayman s script on the back uh this is a little spoiler i have to be careful with this and pull it down at 75 miles an hour that's going to raise three inches to help stabilize the car and does work very very well but i just love the way
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that bubble roof swoops down in between those bulging muscular fenders and creates something reminiscent of a modern 550 and really seals this car into being what i think is going to be just as collectible as any classic porsche from the past you know maybe not in terms of numbers because they would have made more than a 550 spider but certainly in terms of styling performance driving and the way the car goes down the road it's oh god it's such an epic fun car to
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drive it really really is okay door panels nice and simple uh you've got these sort of swoopy looking jet air intake things for the pull handles you've got eight airbags in this car the s came standard with the bose surround system nice little stitched leather that reminds me of 80s porsches and all the door panel stuff i don't think this was ever opened it's so tight and you know there's even dust under there and this guy was pretty anal but that's a nice place to put some handguns you got a big revolver in there
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uh pretty much any uh you know nine or 10 mil or 40 you want no issue at all over here you've got just a very standard headlight control not automatic which is just fine with me i like having control over my headlights you also get the laman style porsche ignition tumbler on the left which again doesn't really make sense anymore uh because in the old days you could reach in and turn the key without touching anything but now of course there's safety switches on the clutch so you have to have that pushed in to start
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it but um yeah anyway it's all tradition and we have so few traditions left we may as well keep the ones that are still around and celebrate right seatbelt on i'm gonna leave the door open as i crank it up here all the mechanical whirring and clanking and gear noise and uh you know they've they've replaced the sound of the big air-cooled engine fan uh with uh you know gear noise but they still do a really nice job
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of making the uh porsche sound uh in this car in a very classic way and that is of course part of the experience let's get a little ac going because it is crappy crappy hot today here you see a beautifully laid out instrument cluster very very simple the gauges are in gray which they're not in the boxster the 911 that's a cayman thing uh you've got your 190 mile an hour speedo uh with no indicator for like 55 or 65 subportions and you know preaching to you about speed
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limits which i really like uh it's also sort of an afterthought compared to the tack which is the front and center gauge which of course is what you'd want for racing and uh that does uh hark into porsche's sporty lineage so i do appreciate that as well uh there you see just 18 000 miles on the clock and again i mean this thing is it's ridiculous uh anyway you've got the driver information centers beneath the three gauges over here you've got your fuel and your uh water temp uh your outside temperature and your
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clock uh in the center here you can go through very different things so the tpc that's uh there we go that's our tire pressure um zero and negative four i'm not sure that's correct they were reading in the 30s yesterday maybe that's just off the uh where they're supposed to be so um i have to put four pounds in that one let's go forward and i'll go back all right so here we've got sad let's reset that uh chrono a limit that where you can set
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your speed limit uh info no messages that's probably what you want oil uh measurement only possible with engine off so that's your dip sticks you don't have to get underneath that big cover in the back and here's something interesting the sport chrono uh which a lot of people think is just a stopwatch on your dashboard and well you know it is you can time a lot of different things there and like how long it takes to idiots at the drive-thru to get your food ready or you know how long it takes your wife to come out from the house after you're
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ready and in the car waiting so you can time that in fact we push this guy forward stop watch start timing and there we go that thing lights up it gives you a digital timer and an analog timer on top of there uh you get a pretty uh um you know you get it also duplicated down there in digital you can do intermediate times which you know that'll be maps individual maps or individual segments of maps if you're a race guy or uh god knows again what else it is
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that you want to time so you can do all that with that more interesting is the sport part of the sport chrono so when you press that what that does is change things a little bit it changes the throttle response on the car so now it's going to have a much stronger tip in it detunes the psm a little bit porsche stability management it sets the limits further away so the traction control will not kick in until it really thinks you're about to die uh you can also turn that off entirely
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although i suspect in traditional german style that's going to come on if it thinks you're dying again and it also changes the rev limiter from a soft one to a hard one and what that you know the rev limiter the thing is a 7 300 rpm redline which i don't think you need i mean it really does reach peak power in the mid 60s but if you hit the rev limiter with the sport off it retards the timing every time i say that i think a dalton but it retards the timing that cuts off fuel and
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very gently will not let you exceed the uh maximum allowable revs where engine damage would occur uh when the sport button is on it's now a hard shut off it's giving you full power all the way to redline and then it starts cutting off when you hit it so it's much more race-like and violent and yeah part of that sport package this is your door locks you get these nice vents for air conditioning very simple am fm um yeah i mean this is why i just can't
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listen to the radio anymore it's absolute crap you've got heated seats here you've got your climate control you can raise or lower your rear spoiler manually with that instead of the five-speed tiptronic this one comes equipped with the very traditional six-speed manual gearbox that came from the box duress and works great uh you've got this is one of my complaints about this car i don't like their cup holder setup it's got this long fragile thing that breaks on high mileage beater examples and uh bends in the mid a little bit so
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it doesn't quite line up at the edges if you ever use it so uh not my favorite cup holder set up but yeah you know properly german over complicated and likely to break so as far as that goes they hit the mark here you've got some places to store cds you got a nice set of books in here and uh all very simple and lovely and of course beautiful mystery humorless german leather everywhere including on the e-brake you also have an ashtray because german still smoked in 2007
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and another great little spot to put up you know a very small middle uh nine millimeter that you could fit in there to keep yourself safe and there's a 12-volt outlet in the place to put the coins and maybe just a couple little bags of drugs nothing major let's go for a spin i'm stopping i don't want the new map this kind of stuff is kind of silly i stopped timing reset i like the way it looks when it resets and we're going to start timing then when we go for a drive up here you have a self dimming mirror
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works great and also that uh home link garage door opener so and this is funny too we bought the car yesterday from the guy that's how clean it was i wouldn't even let dalton touch it uh he left he left his garage door opener in here which we're gonna give to him didn't even notice that until just now but that's how people are i mean here is a built-in elegant garage door opener and rather than program it people just slap a snap the one their garage door came with up there i love the way that sounds
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you get a lot of engine noise in the cayman compared to the boxster i think it's definitely up a few notches and i'm sure that's by design uh porsche definitely wanted to make the caymans feel a little more sportier wait for these gates that everyone in the comment section says they're very slow and we're not wrong i feel like i need to shave again by the time they open and we'll sneak out there and uh yeah again we got the sun there i think you know let's see how this guy did his
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windshield yeah again better than dalton does after cleaning it but still uh it's gonna be a little foggy so way to the end of the street don't pick it up again all right so i'm gonna timer trip into work now chrono there we go all right nap time going we got the stopwatch going away we go you know when that vario cam kicks in man do you get a cacophony of lovely intake noises and exhaust noises and worry noises
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and again all the stuff that made porsche so beloved for so many years you know i could at it i could say it's been designed to be that way uh yeah as a because that's what people want and not because that's the way it ended up after engineering but i forget porsche it works too good uh to uh to argue with uh driving wise i mean look if you take this car to your local autocross or pdx track day
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uh it's like taking ginger rogers to the church dance or yo yo ma you know to play a duet at the tamman show 95 or more of your everyday drivers are never going to come anywhere close to reaching the incredible limits of this car uh you know at home i have a uh the smith and wesson long barrel 22 target rifle kind of competition target pistol and when i have it i'm like a surgeon at that i can
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hit the bullseye from you know like a hundred yards without even thinking about it because it's just such a perfect gun for shooting targets and that's the way this car is it's such a perfect car for going around a road course or race track uh it could make even the most incompetent boob look like michael schumacher you know before the accident uh it's just that good the car is that good mid engine perfectly balanced you can turn in with the precision of a surgeon it's got
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variable power steering up front that really tightens in sport mode and it's just a incredible car to move around a road course or racetrack really really epic nothing finer and uh that's a big part of the charm of the game and i'm gonna have to sneak in here somewhere do a jerk merge and see if i can i think i got room here they're not gonna like it but man what the hell uh anyway so they enjoy the drive and
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that's why it's on my top 10 list and uh i wish we could do a little bit more road racing or something so you could see it but it'll run 0-60 in a little under five seconds which is very quick quarter-mile time in the low 13s top speed of 171 which is uh nicely in tune with the speedometer and to me it's just one of the great classic sports cars uh of all time you know really genuinely you have to put it up there it is everything that a sports car is supposed
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to be and uh i do believe to me the last great classic porsche uh that uh the original you know old uber fuhrer would recognize this thing would make a lot of sense to him even if the mid-engine thing was a bit strange uh so it's uh it's just an epic epic car uh appreciate you having a look uh we got some real fun stuff coming up i mentioned that before we actually have a chrysler cordoba finally got a cordoba so we should have some fun with that i got the world's nicest 420 sel on the way
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and uh some other uh some other interesting stuff even a dodge daytona iraq we'll see how that goes and uh it'll be fun for the next few days so thank you for having a look really appreciate it uh i'm going to put down the camera and start enjoying my drive into work without getting a ticket which i did on this trip by the way in a little little backwoods town in georgia when i decided to get off the highway uh all these you know decreasing speed limits one after the other
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i missed a sign from 45 to 35 and this uh like 12 year old cop he looked like he was in a halloween costume instead of a real proper cop writes me up for 47 and a 35 which to me is not in the spirit of catching a speeder uh you know when you get a guy who thinks he's going 47 and a 45 so i don't know i think that's jerk mike but who might argue with the revenue needs of a small town in southern georgia thank you for having a look really appreciate it and we will
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see you with the next one take care so so so you

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