PostScript - Michael Waters, Part 1

PostScript - Michael Waters, Part 1

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hi I'm John Peterson and this is PostScript coming to you from Berkeley Springs West Virginia PostScript is a production where we bring very interesting speakers who come to our small town here in West Virginia to talk about aspects of the future they come as part of a speaking series that the Arlington Institute sponsor is called Berkeley Springs transition talks and what we try to do is bring folks who can
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speak to the extraordinary kind of change that's happening in the world these days from many different kind of points of view and perspectives today we're happy to have Mike walk waters with us today Michael waters mike is a an extraordinary kind of inventor and futurists and strategists who thinks about where the future is going in quite different terms he's an engineer and he comes from a technical kind of background and you don't get there from here without some kind of tools without
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technology and so it's a it's an integral part of how human beings deal with large-scale change so Mike it's nice to have you with us well thanks for coming I'm interested in how we've had a number of discussions over the months of about different things that you're interested in and and I've been impressed with some of the kind of inventions and things that you've worked on tell us about some of the most interesting ones that you're working on these days well one of my favorite
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simply is that child in me is the VTOL the electric vertical-takeoff aircraft vertical takeoff and landing VTOL yeah feat all right I think people look at quadcopter as a term more these days but now this is a full-size airplane it's a full-size airplane yeah this is no we're not talking about little drums no no right I've been a pilot all my life I've flown all kinds of crazy things and this to me is the ultimate toy but that's
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also a more serious site it and that is promoting breakthrough synonym yeah yeah but now this is an electric airplane right that makes it different you know it takes off vertically and flies wherever you want for how long well that's where it gets interesting yeah how far how fast how long and that is where the advanced technologies come in yeah how long will apply well depending on the technology
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we use and politics anywhere from a thousand mile range or more to a lot longer how much longer well the potential is for my mean I build an airplane that I'd go with that oh yeah I know I mean come on it was amazing plane yeah pressurizing the law rest of it with the kinds of energy technologies we're talking about today you could have potentially well effectively unlimited range and duration no way an unlimited
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range right electric airplane it takes off vertically and then just goes out of your backyard wherever you want to go and any size you know when you get into electrics everything becomes a lot simpler and that's a couple of examples out there are people starting and when can i buy one of these as soon as it's funded well how far away what I mean let's let's say I showed up with the ex millions of dollars that's required to
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make this thing go on are we a couple years later so we could have it flying within a year get fly in the year and that's a that's a relatively small in to place or one place yeah test phase would be one and to see and what one presumes then that the technology particularly energy or the drivetrain technology would be applicable to land vehicles anything right it's anybody's that's just anything the emergence of electric transportation is really what we're
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talking about yeah what what this is I mean this is not Elon Musk this is this is elan marks plus plus you know kind of right evolution well that's evolution but but but you're onto something that is really extraordinary here in that in that we're not just plug in a vehicle into the wall and we're charging up batteries what's happening how does where you getting the power to run this time well there's a
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couple of things we can look at it through conventional physics and then more advanced physics without getting technical first of all we've got the inevitable evolution of batteries now for the last decade or so we've been pretty much stuck with lithium polymers as the choice and I'm working with several technologies so one in particular where we're about to have a four to five times increase in power density and way over over what typically
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you know like this is the Elon Musk's battery wall thing yeah so if you were to put one of these batteries in a Tesla you'd have over a thousand mile range and the cost of the batteries would be more than five times less five times less right 120th or I mean 128 55 times more density five times less cost that's extraordinary well it's a tipping point right now most advanced electric cars like the Tesla have about a two to three
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hundred mile range and that's not devastatingly competitive with a gas engine but once you start getting over a thousand mile range social of course well now you don't need this dense infrastructure of filling station you can drive you know half the way across the country almost right without filling up as it were and then how long does it take to charge it or fill it up with them well at that level of technology and there's a number of reasons for this but essentially the Foss charge
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capability would be there too because we're bridging the gap between batteries and capacitors right and capacitors charge very very clear equipment exactly so you could go in and have a sandwich and plug it in and charge it and back to another thousand miles yeah everything changes yeah everything changes when that one that because of course it doesn't stop there it goes throughout everything that's a battery or you know that uses a modular mobile
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electricity or portable kind of devices and as a racino studying ramifications it really is it a cascade effect wrong it's like going from the horse to the automobile you one change affects another affects another just so so one presumes that if you've got an airplane that's flying forever that you've got some kind of a charging mechanism that is replenishing this right well then we get into more exotic physics do do minor
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exotic to us yeah there's a little bit of that to me the most important thing that I've learned no I'm not the only one to make the discovery but it is still a fairly small group mm-hmm most of the world believes in this thing called the closed system right in fact I most fundamental laws are based on that contract well over the last 15 years i
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came across technology after technology that seemed to be outside that box so to explain this closed system thing it says that right energy and his energy out and all that kind of it I mean can't explain furry I've had to get pretty directed this because to explain it to conventional academia you got to be direct and it's got to be right and it's interesting finally after all these
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years they can pretty much convince any physicist I've got one hundred percent success rate in about two minutes what it comes down to is this this closed system is an assumption based on the world we believe we live in but in reality this is a world of infinite okay but a closed system is what a closed system presumes that what well let's talk about one of our most
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fundamental laws yeah lower energy conservation right it goes in a closed system energy can neither be right so it's a system that's isolated from the larger reality right and that all of the operations of the things are limited to that particular piece of geography whatever it is however it's defined right well it's a general assumption of this entire reality that we have a
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closed system physics so that closed system is it's sort of like you we're looking at energy like it's a thing so if you put something in a box aren't getting more out of that box than you put in it it's a very sort of person yeah yeah but it's like saying that this this exists by itself it is a system that you know there's a it end starts and ends right here and it starts in it right right and so then you're trying to describe what happens inside of this and
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not in the open system it's out around it yes it's sort of like a gallon of gasoline it is a gallon of gasoline and the well let's talk about energy density because that's really the main thing the definition of a closed system this is where the problem is and remember this is a very very important thing it's affected our entire civilization the closed system laws are our most fundamental and all of our science is based on it right all our technologies
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all our civilization even our cultural behaviors everything so this is really this is very impressed is a huge thing to you the whole paradigm the whole way in which we see reality everything that that we make sense out of reality is based on a mistake okay I'm gonna take I mistake a mistake I'm it's there is no such thing as a closed system okay I mean let me explain why very very simply hi Richard Feynman you know respected
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ours same as that is there's more energy and an empty coffee cup where you need to fill to boil all the oceans of the world sir taladon bond to others that there was more energy in one cubic sensor in a sugar cube in front of your face then all the known matter in the universe exactly so very interesting statements from very well respected scientists well what the definition of a closed system
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is where the whole mistake has been made by definition a closed system must remain energy constant regardless of scale that's just the definition of a closed system so it doesn't matter how big you are the density just like the density of a battery mm-hmm must remain constant or it's not a closed system in reality explain what that means so if i have a little battery it's different from a big battery or what does that the
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power density remains the same power density the amount of power in per cubic what are the volume ok right very very simple well here's the problem all evidence from all our research in our science shows that energy density increases as size decreases now this is very very important because so give me an example that what does that mean what
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gets bigger when you get it make it smaller right chemical reactions Oh gasoline sure big nuclear reactions tiny yeah what is a magnet jump out Oh matter antimatter alright far more powerful than nuclear now here's the problem there's no such thing as smallest there isn't ok so you zoom in and you zoom in you and you go oh there's a smallest
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thing in reality oh wait a minute what's that little thing sitting on it oh ok zoom in on that now that's the oh no no wait a minute that's something sitting on it yeah infinity is also a conscious for the very small and it's very hot it's as hard for people to grasp as it is I mean that's what CERN this thing is trying to do find these particles that are smaller and smaller and so I kept on going right yeah and it turns out that really the things that tie the large and the small concepts more like resonance
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and harmonics and ratios in like the golden mean uh-huh fly spiral those away we those are how we communicate between scales so his observation of reality that energy density increases the size decreases that defines an open system it means that as Fineman said that's more energy in empty coffee cup yeah so therefore when you look at something
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like fuel right you're transporting what's already everywhere because at every point in reality you have this energy inversion which increases the size decreases so the the the actual ability for a closed system like this to exist that's impossible because inside that box is an open system where energy density increases that size decreases it's quite funny but it's also so you're saying a tank of gasoline has no more
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energy ultimate energy in it than this relat same size kind of relative of this book the energy inversion says that the to think of a toothpick having less energy than a Mack truck is not sentient it is nonsensical right because if energy density increase if it's an infinity conference if it means that energy itself is an infinite concept and
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only matter it's a finite still means everything is energy everything is energy and so and it's all interacting or it all arises from the same days all the same stuff so it's all the same stuff just configure in different ways right all right so how do you how do you get out of it why do you make the airplane fly forever okay then we get into how we access this right okay and first you have to shake
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off some of the preconceived notions that the closed system sort of embeds in in your mind as an engineer or scientist and what I found because I you know as I started to see some of these things I got into both energy and alchemy for instance which is subject that's weird well that it's all the same on it turns out it's all resonant phenomenal this is all very confusing my bet correctly yeah
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right so it's out coming there's lots of ways to tap it let's talk at water we've probably all heard of somebody claiming they could run a vehicle on water I mean Stan Myers was here on exam bro it was it was really telling to me when I traveled around this country for a number of years I've been at this for about 15 years door seven two thousand but it seemed that every city i went to i ran into a story of somebody that had
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developed a vehicle that ran on something I water vapor of gasoline drag the 200 mile per hour carburetor right right I ran into this everywhere I went that there were more people that had seemed to have done this than right since is over 550 vapor car patents for instance sure mercedes-benz had something 15-20 years ago yeah I traveled all over I come back to my home
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base the local airport I talked to a friend and goes oh yeah my buddy bought this v8 you know 454 muscle car and it got like 60 miles per gallon and he was approached number of months later and they took the car back and he got a free car for the next ten years every year in route as a payment right who took the
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car hey Dave okay let's not go all right but let's look at water as a as a fuel the mistake in conventional physics is oh you can't get more energy out of water than you put in because you electrolysis shows that we taught that in school electrolysis is the separation separation of hydrogen and oxygen in the water molecule um but you're not using
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it as a fuel this is where you have to jump from closed to open in open system physics the atoms are not being destroyed when you burn a gallon gasoline you're not making atoms disappear they go from a liquid state right others data right at the state maybe you're lucky five percent of it moves you down the road like water going from liquid to vapor it's a state change so the only concept jump you have to
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make is that the water is being used as an amplifier not a fuel how interesting it's a resonant structure which allows you to the underlying energy system to be concentrated or amplified or can't it you know defined in a particular way right and a very good example in nature funnily enough is the pistol shrimp the what pistol shrimp oh okay all right I
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by what's the pistol shrimp it's a little shrimp with a big claw and it's fascinating you can look you can see videos of this online it its claw and then snaps it closed so fast that it sends out a shock wave of a bubble of air which collapses so fast on it momentarily reaches a temperature hotter than the surface of the Sun under
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in the and stuns its prey which happens to be another shrimp usually then the engineer a piece that's random yeah and life goes on right Wow but in that split second you see this incredible flash of sonoluminescence and what it is is that bubble is imploding so fast going down some do not illuminate though sad i'm just commenting massive yeah at least it
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literally explodes a point inside that liquid wow so you can direct that kind of at this yeah other shrimp bang food wow so and the point is well it's using water as a resonant amplifier ah so no atoms were killed in this it's a green green process that's great they might
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have been now chemically shifted but so can you know how to do that in I'll just go so he didn't well I mean you know in conventional physical that we the shrimp nuclear is being big Sun or power plants but there's a growing movement of what they call Elliot Elliot are low energy nuclear reaction rate this and this is just one way there's lots of others to resonantly but this is cold fusion stuff
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that's right i mean that's why i keep on my tab it recognize there's this incredible overlap between cavitation which is what which is when cold fusion hho which is the one of the gas forms of water hydrogen and oxygen and two hydrogen's in one but it's a different it's a gas that detonates not h2o it's HH oh ok charge clusters that it turns out the water has all these different states there is even you know Jerry
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Pollock is talking about what there's a a new state of water and and then something that just came out by the way this last week a report about a new state of light yeah so then yeah and it's all related of course so how do you make the collapse without the shrimp and all oh um well you get this big claw is spraying it in a box at an expense yeah
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right try um bring but actually it's not that different howdy there's lots of different idea one company nano spire for instance yes developed a technology on controlled cavitation in water and they're getting excess heat release as a failed and in their early experiments they actually had problems with radiation they were getting gamma which obviously is a telltale signal of
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alchemic reaction what's happening well I Lamech oh yeah it's very simple again okay we think in the chemical world other than those nuclear things that nuclear scientists do right but in reality when you look at it from a resonant perspective chemical reactions we normally think of as heat reactions but that's just another form of frequency nuclear reactions can operate the same way in a resonant fashion there
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was a Alchemist oh david hudson or rather soj discovered on atomic model Tomic elements and the fifth state of matter i call it with single atom that you have solid liquid gas plasma ask the universe apart and then you have or me state material that's what he rediscovered right so it's another's data matter that he's essentially there was one fascinating paragraph in a lot of his work that i found and he
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essentially said that if you use the right frequency with the nucleus that you can get the natural oscillation of that nucleus to expand beyond the trap what they call the strong force barrier that holds the nucleus well basically what it means is you start with one element and you end up with another one alchemy alchemy okay but then that that happens in a nuclear power plant every day right that's now chemic reaction
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sure right it's just that we think you have to do it by using big hammers yeah that in reality you can do it by singing to it like like an opera singer cracks a wine glass so resonance again Oh what we want to do in the second segment of this come back here and I want to talk about your kind of worldview and where this all goes and what the implications of where this all could be because this is really fundamental kind of stuff I mean we're running up this exponential curve
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of development and discovery and technology and stuff that is taking us to a new world that is going to operate in really different ways and we're going to have airplanes that fly forever and electricity and a phenomenon that that's pretty crazy so Mike waters thank you for being with us hope that this is post crib and it's brought to you from Berkeley Springs West Virginia and I'm John Peterson from the Arlington you

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