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this is round from 1349 and you're watching heavy New York what's up everybody it's alex from heavy New York we are back at the st. Vitus basement and we are here with 1349 thank you guys for your time today thank you it's so awesome to have you here your newest record is the infernal pathway what I'm curious is being that it was five years since the release of cauldron of chaos the record before that was this just a continuation of that or
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do you think that this record is kind of like a new beginning or a stand out in your catalog well the thing with 1349 is that whenever we do an album it has to be better than what we've done before I mean we won't that's also maybe why it takes time is because it has to top what we've done before otherwise there's no need or no meaning to doing another album it has to be better we have to progress to move on what I'm curious is being that you always want to progress with your sound is there like a
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preconceived idea on how you want the next 1349 record to sound do you like have a preconceived idea going into it or is there a lot of improvising involved it used to be that way like the three first album pretty much had an idea what ever going to be and what we wanted to accomplish but now it's just after after the fourth album it was pretty much up to heaven every every album what would happen basically and
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that's that's how very how we roll now we make every album like it's the last one and then we see if we ever gonna make an in album again that's that's basically how it works done you try to like experiment a little bit more with your sound or do you try to kind of like I feel like people could approve like any 1349 fan whether they're discovering you on this new record or cauldron of chaos or even the first record could really appreciate your sound is there like a formula that you stick with or well I always say that it's um it's a
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misconception among people that black metal has to have a bad sound that it has to have the right sound and if that means that the guitars sound a bit harsh and bad and maybe not too mainstream you know that so be it but you have to find that sound that that really benefits the material that you make and making black metal it's supposed to be a bit unpleasant for the
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air as well so it's about the right sound and the finding that right sound is varies from every album to album and even down to every song you know so sometimes we do different mixes for the different songs on the album it's it's not like a it's not a standard set of you know it has to sound right for that song yeah and you kind of you mentioned like the mixing because our mutual friend Jared Pritchard who plays with poker morte and like you know I feel like he's a really talented musician and
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himself just working with him allow other elements like that 1349 may not have had previously well the thing about jerath which is very i mean he is an amazing engineer but he's also a good friend of ours and he's a great guitarist so it's something about the guy that can when you're in the studio take your instrument say come on man do it properly and then you know play whatever you were playing your banner oh
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yeah gotta step it up but I just on the side note to the previous question because black metal is also primarily a feeling and 1349 is very much a feeling even though all the album's might sound different but there is a certain 1349 spirit the band's bare so to speak that's always there and always constant and that's kind of what we try to get push true with every album that the
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spirit is there I feel like black metal is like it's really not even just about the music but it is like almost a lifestyle or there's a great essence of imagery around it and meaning for the band is does like a lyrical concept or subject matter we also help determine the outcome of the music or could the music that 1349 writes about also be open to interpretation yeah of course it's it's up to every individual to to get what they want out of the music and the
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lyrics we of course get visions in our head when we when we see the listen to the music and and riddle oryx and hopefully the the listener will get a similar experience it may be experience the same thing so it's like this the two will make the third basically that's always been the main concept behind everything it's not a it's not a formula I am I mean every every human being should should make up their own mind
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we're not we're not a band I'd like to for speed anything on on to or an opinion on to somebody you know it's like we do what we do and then you can pay attention to it or or don't could somebody else's perception on how they may interpret your music like even if it's like nothing what you were feeling or trying to say when writing the music could their perception maybe change the outlook you have on your music you have Cortez and that's what's why your tour you know you meet the fans and you you
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get their input on how how your music and your art has inflicted into them and I mean that's the main reason for touring basically that's a you meet your hands first then and then take it from there you bring that back into the studio video and then hopefully you will evolve even more enough yeah when it comes to playing live this is gonna be my first time seeing 13 40 nights and out I sadly missed you I think the last time you came here is when you were
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touring with Origen back and I think it was like 2013 2013 I think oh wow but when it comes to playing your music live is there a completely different energy that you channel into your life presence as you do when you're in the studio or in songwriting mode or is there maybe like a sort of thing that ties everything together well of course live there's there's the channeling of this spirit this energy this feeling of black metal
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has to be channeled both in the studio but also live so of course live we prepare we put on the paint we get ready and we get in for lack of better word war mode where we're ready to go out there and do this extreme thing in front of people because you expend a lot of energy and if you're lucky you have a good crowd so you get the energy back and you can feed on that and push it and it's it's always this weird sort of
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alchemy that you have four dudes on the stage and then you add this energy and you get something beyond these four people right because so music has the luxury of speaking directly to the feelings without necessarily having to go through the brain you can express primal without really speaking
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I find unique is like when you are expressing this darkness on stage is there like a fulfillment factor that like do you walk off stage feeling completely different than when you were preparing to go on stage no it's me personal it's pretty much the same but walk on stage and and what happens happens basically he then you're in in constructor so he said war mode so you you you do the show and then when you're
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done then you switch back off basically in so dudes you go into for me it's more of just primal primal emotions that's likely I don't remember any lyrics while walking into on the stage the lyrics comes automatically upon the music so if I start to think one on on stage then I will start to up lyrics and stuff because sounds like oh what's the next lyrics well like I don't they're not they're not there so I stopped doing
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that many years ago you just there's no thinking it's just being basically and performing and when you come off then obviously it's a huge physical effort and then it's just you just worn out basically you you give everything that you and you should be that way it's just like a sports his porch event basically it's a you give everything you got and then you should be completely worn out afterward and there should be only the
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endorphins left basic visits do you go into a similar warm or mode though when you enter the studio or were like you're in a vocal booth or you're practicing at all yeah you have to in order to get that same feeling into the lyrics you have to switch and tap into those same primal emotions what's hard often is that you have to you don't have the the lyrics in your backbone so you need to to read through at some times but I mean
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you have the luxury in the studio to retake and then that's the way you work through it but this is also an advantage we bring in Jared Pritchard into the whole process because he he knows gnosis from the Livesay trenches he knows what energy lies in you and doing especially like the vocal performance on an inferno pathway he knew exactly what he can get out of me so when he said Oh do it do it one more time or do it another take and or try this try that
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you know is it's just just a very good help you know to have him have that live knowledge and bringing that into the studio as well so that you United shoulder basically yeah because to have somebody who's very active and plays a very prevalent role in your live presence he knows exactly how you're supposed to sound live and clearly knows what you're supposed to sound like on the album - it feels like working with somebody you know very close and you can just relax and and focus on the job you're gonna do because you know that
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the guy that sits behind the console he he knows exactly what he wants out of you you know and then you just work hard on getting that done until when he says it's the weddings okay then it's then it's good you know he knows that's the best you can get oh I have uh two more questions for you one thing I find what I've always was curious about especially with your style is we kind of really just went on it talking about war mode and like you know getting inspired and
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all this does inspiration sometimes just hit you out of nowhere when it comes to like songwriting mode or do you sometimes have to like put yourself in a certain element or find it like do you have to like look for inspiration well both actually I mean I'm blessed or cursed if you want with waking up in the middle of the night okay guitar and paper whatever but also every day I sit down with an instrument or within a paper and I I do
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until something comes because if you just rely on the kind of flashes of inspiration and nothing might happen for very extended periods of time and then so you have to force it and then you can learn it you can learn inspiration because you can get into the zone I mean I used to watch Twin Peaks the last episode of season two where everything goes batshit insane and after ten minutes of that I just have to stop everything and run and get my guitar
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because then I was inspired then I was in the zone so so inspiration hits but you can also force it to hit but but it's a long process forcing inspiration is like always hard because like it doesn't come naturally I think people could tell when something's like forced in a way but it's it's also a learning process you know you can you have to when it says forcing it's it's actually you have to learn how to trick your mind into getting into that
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inspirational mode so it's not exactly forcing it's more tricking that is the key word here too and so you could trick yourself into becoming inspired because if you know if you know what you're the common denominators are that when you get inspired you can you can tap into those same feelings and find those same elements and then automatically trigger that inspiration to a certain degree in but of course it is hard and it takes
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takes years of experience to do that yeah I heard up in an interview with uh I believe it was Alexi Laiho from Children of Bodom he said he was sometimes look for trouble like if he's trying to come up with lyrics or songs he would just go out like do like some crazy stupid or whatever just to like come up with an idea so it's you know yeah inspiration can come from anywhere and the final question I wanted to ask you is this is my favorite question to ask everybody because it's always the hardest question for everybody to answer how do you know when
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a song is done that's when a tape ends basically when you run out of tape I mean a song is done when you do you kinda realize that you have to let it go otherwise you'll be flicking on it for the next 15 years I mean you never wanna let it go but at some point you realize you have to let it go because studio time is up you're supposed to deliver the masters and you just have to finish that's a
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very good explanation some people feel like the need to be so deep into it like it's never finished it's only abandoned and well I mean you have to draw the line somewhere otherwise and the studio budgets that I had in the 70s and 80s are no longer available so you can't spend like nine months in a studio in order to and make the whole album there like has been done but I mean yeah I'd like to at least we don't have that luxury so yeah you'd like to capture a moment I feel like your music also
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captures a moment too so yeah it's it's more like it's that you have to that primal energy that's there and it's also it's not it's not our product that's fine shaping in any way you know it's it's it's a rough edge and an hard hard material so it's it's not something that need to be polished and worked upon it should be a bit rough that you know it should be a bit doesn't matter if it's it's only adds to it if it's a bit
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rougher than unpolished basically it's like there you go so before we go I want to thank you so much for your time today it's gonna be a kick-ass show and I perfect a way to celebrate the week of Halloween is there just anything else you would like to promote with 1349 this will be uploaded by midnight so if it hasn't been announced yet don't say it here no I mean it's we're on tour now so if you if you like the album and I'm gonna come out this is a sold-out show so it's not where I used to go to this one but there's still a couple of tickets left in other cities
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so pick up the album as well we have the special artist edition that we only sell is the band that sells it it's not the distributed by the label or anything as well so it only exists in 300 copies and we sell that on the road as well so it's oh that's good to know gotta pick that up well thank you guys so much everybody we are here with 1349 this is alex from heavy New York we will see you next time

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